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Americans Basically Want Sarah Palin To Go Away

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While Sarah Palin continues to pontificate about politics on a mostly regular basis, most recently calling for President Obama’s impeachment, Sean Sullivan notes that most Americans have no desire to hear what she has to say:

More than half of voters say they have heard enough from Sarah Palin and would rather she not wade into political debates in her outspoken manner, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg poll.

Fifty-four percent fall into that category. That includes a sizable chunk of Palin’s Republican Party — nearly four in 10. A majority of Democrats and independents say they prefer to hear less from Palin.

“I hate to think that the Republican Party is going to be leaving me. I don’t want to leave it. But if it leaves me and it keeps straying toward that liberal, failed agenda that the left, that Barack Obama just exudes, then yeah, I’m not going to hesitate” to leave, Palin said Tuesday on Fox News.

Palin holds no elected office nor is she a candidate, but the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee has campaigned for congressional candidates this cycle and regularly opines on big debates on her Facebook page. This week, she called for the impeachment of President Obama.

This won’t mean much to Palin, of course, since her audience is not the American people as a whole but a very narrow ideological faction of the Republican Party, and they continue to love her unquestionably. As long as that continues, we’ll continue to hear from Sarah Palin.

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Doug holds a B.A. in Political Science from Rutgers University and J.D. from George Mason University School of Law. He joined the staff of OTB in May, 2010 and also writes at Below The Beltway. Follow Doug on Twitter | Facebook

Comments

  1. CSK says:

    The only way she’ll shut up is if people stop paying attention to her. As you say, she’ll always have a following of hardcore devotees, but even they seem to be dwindling in number and ardor. Tony Lee at Breitbart will continue to write hard-hitting exclusives about her Facebook postings, but serious publications, including the conservative ones, ought to ignore her rants. Usually they do.

    As for the Republican Party, it’s hard to assess exactly how much of a threat she represents to them. Certainly she reduces the party’s appeal to independents.

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  2. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    Her books sell better than Hillary Clinton’s. Her TV shows get better ratings than Chelsea Clinton’s. And if she went away, Doug, you’d lose one of your main topics whenever you need hits.

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  3. J-Dub says:

    She is the hero of uneducated white folks. Her mangled manner of speaking sounds like intelligence to them.

    Jon Stewart put it well when he said she may be coming out with a “new series of speeches called the “HUH?! Talks. They’re like TED Talks, except they make no sense.”

    You too can sound “intelligent” like Sarah Palin if you take a well written sentence, put it in a blender, then recite the words in whatever order they come out.

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  4. KM says:

    The non-scientific but surprisingly accurate term for Sarah’s affliction is called Attention Whore. Everyone knows one – she’s just figured out how to make money off it, that’s all. Even after all the cash flows dry up though, she’ll still be out there. The money’s just a perk.

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  5. G.A.Phillips says:

    So who is the American people as a whole? Over half of this country are progressives not Americans. And who in the great rainbow colored hell Is Sean Sullivan ?

    Sounds like another guy that hates real women. Or is or a girl? Or does it think its a girl?
    I can never tell around here.

    The non-scientific but surprisingly accurate term for Sarah’s affliction is called Attention Whore.

    Would that not be the definition of some little guy that writes or comments on a blog, That hardly anyone reads, writing the same old attack pieces to get the same old reaction form the same old commenters or authors of said blog. No that’s more like Pitiful Attention Whore.

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  6. C. Clavin says:

    her audience is not the American people as a whole but a very narrow ideological faction of the Republican Party, and they continue to love her unquestionably.

    She is the hero of uneducated white folks. Her mangled manner of speaking sounds like intelligence to them.

    Need proof? Here’s fanboy #1…

    Her books sell better than Hillary Clinton’s. Her TV shows get better ratings than Chelsea Clinton’s.

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  7. John Peabody says:

    She’s just so…so…2008.

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  8. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    @J-Dub: She is the hero of uneducated white folks. Her mangled manner of speaking sounds like intelligence to them.

    Do NOT make me pull up that list of epic Obama quotes to rebut you, J-Dub…

    Oh, what the hell:

    Navy CORPSE-men, “breathalyzers” for asthmatics, “unbroken line of fallen heroes, and I see many of them in the audience here today…”

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  9. JWH says:

    From what I can tell, Sarah Palin is a political celebrity and novelty act, not a politician. She’s not interested in running for office, but she makes a comfortable living by making controversial public statements.

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  10. wr says:

    The vast majority of Americans don’t want to hear from Insane Clown Posse, either, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t enough devoted juggalos for the band to pull down a tidy sum each year. That’s what Palin is going for these days — a happy herd of stupid cows who can be milked for cash.

    I eagerly await Jenos’ next moo.

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  11. KM says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    Would that not be the definition of some little guy that writes or comments on a blog, That hardly anyone reads, writing the same old attack pieces to get the same old reaction form the same old commenters or authors of said blog. No that’s more like Pitiful Attention Whore.

    Um, no.

    attention whore
    English- Noun

    attention whore (plural attention whores)
    (derogatory, vulgar, idiomatic) An individual that routinely solicits attention through inappropriate tactics and provocation

    Synonyms- drama queen

    Just speaking or commenting isn’t enough to qualify. Having an opinion (however controversial) doesn’t qualify. She’s not just saying her piece but deliberately trying to draw attention to herself with over-the-top theatrics – she’s not officially in politics (she’s a reality TV show star now, remember?) anymore but its trying to lead the pack on the impeachment demands. She’s trying to steal the spotlight from the others when she doesn’t have a dog in this hunt. Thus the appellation.

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  12. G.A.Phillips says:

    The vast majority of Americans don’t want to hear from Insane Clown Posse

    Once again you have to be an American to qualify as an American.

    a happy herd of stupid cows who can be milked for cash.

    lol.. I have two question for you wr. Do you still support the man that most real Americans what to just go away to prison, Obama? And did you buy Hillary’s book?

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  13. G.A.Phillips says:

    Um ,KM. My definition was Pitiful Attention Whore. You can’t look that up but I was nice enough to define it for you.

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  14. C. Clavin says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    the man that most real Americans what to just go away to prison, Obama?

    If your opinion is based on total horse-$hit…then your opinion is total horse-$hit.

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  15. KM says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    So who is the American people as a whole? Over half of this country are progressives not Americans.

    Once again you have to be an American to qualify as an American.

    Well then. Since we’re arbitrarily deciding who and who is not American, you’re out. By the power vested in me by virtue of being a DAR (through my father’s mother), I declare you unAmerican. Quite embarrassing my ancestor’s work. Bye, bye see ya.

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  16. Moosebreath says:

    “Over half of this country are progressives not Americans”

    Pray tell, why are progressives not Americans? Since the Constitution is specific on the issue of requirements for citizenship, and political opinions are not part of it, does your picture show where you are pulling this idea from?

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  17. G.A.Phillips says:

    C. Clavin ,If your opinion is based on total Donkey-$hit…then your opinion is total Donkey-$hit.

    I speak truth not opinion. I would define truth for you but you will never get it so I won’t.

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  18. G.A.Phillips says:

    Pray tell, why are progressives not Americans? Since the Constitution is specific on the issue of requirements for citizenship, and political opinions are not part of it, does your picture show where you are pulling this idea from?

    lol, what does a progressive understand or care about or follow in the the Untied States Constitution?

    I rest my case.

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  19. bandit says:

    Except for the lunatic lefty haters at OTB. They need someone to project their f’d up hatred onto.

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  20. C. Clavin says:

    @G.A.Phillips:
    Oooooh…the “I know I am but what are you” defense.

    I speak truth not opinion.

    Fine…provide a link that backs this up…

    the man that most real Americans what to just go away to prison, Obama?

    Put up or…you know.

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  21. DrDaveT says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    Over half of this country are progressives not Americans.

    This is clearly an incredibly subtle tactic to make listening to Sarah Palin sound good by comparison. Well played, sir!

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  22. Franklin says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    So who is the American people as a whole? Over half of this country are progressives not Americans.

    I realize you are an angry little twerp. But you just said most American people are not Americans.

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  23. G.A.Phillips says:

    Fine…provide a link that backs this up…

    lol…How about I don’t and you just believe the truth?

    This is clearly an incredibly subtle tactic to make listening to Sarah Palin sound good by comparison. Well played, sir!

    Dang, we got someone with some wit and a sense of humor…oh happy days.

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  24. C. Clavin says:

    @G.A.Phillips:
    How about if you can’t even begin back your happy horse$hit of an opinion…after you claim it’s the truth…you just STFU…

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  25. G.A.Phillips says:

    I realize you are an angry little twerp. But you just said most American people are not Americans

    6’1” 215 lbs and I don’t twerp. And so what If I did? And I am not angry I just think that most of you are relentlessly stupid and repetitive by way of indoctrination. Or maybe you was just born that way?

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  26. G.A.Phillips says:

    How about if you can’t even begin back your happy horse$hit of an opinion…after you claim it’s the truth…you just STFU…

    How about you come make me. I am real sick of your mouth and would love to close it for you.

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  27. Surreal American says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    Wow, it’s an internet tough guy being tough on the internet. You don’t see that every 5 minutes.

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  28. C. Clavin says:

    @G.A.Phillips:
    Big brave keyboard commando…what a f’ing joke you are.
    Have your mommy wipe your snotty nose for you tough guy.

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  29. G.A.Phillips says:

    You told me to shut the fuck up. I told you to come make me you idiot.

    Surreal American, yeah what ever dude, you can come try and help your girl friend shut me the fuck up.

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  30. Janis Gore says:

    @G.A.Phillips: GA, how many times have I told you to keep your finger out of your nose in public. It’s just rude.

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  31. @G.A.Phillips:

    You’ve been warned about violations of the comment policy before. I let your last comment go through so I could make this point….

    Abide by those terms, or we’ll have to take action.

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  32. wr says:

    @G.A.Phillips: “I rest my case.”

    Your entire “case” rests on a ludicrous rhetorical question? That’s pretty, um, substantial.

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  33. wr says:

    @Doug Mataconis: I have to wonder what’s happening with GA. He’s never been the happiest commenter around here, but this current slew of messages is so thoughtless, so over-the-top aggressive and pointless, it makes me wonder if there’s something medicl behind it — a stroke, maybe or heavy drinking.

    If he is suffering from something like this, I wish him the best and a speedy recovery. But I also thank you for monitoring his output and deleting his messages when they lapse into straight abuse. I’m sure it’s not your favorite part of co-running this blog.

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  34. Pinky says:

    @J-Dub: Actually, I think Jon Stewart is the hero of uneducated white folks.

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  35. G.A.Phillips says:

    That’s fine Doug, I tried to edit it.

    You told me to shut the STFU . I told you to come make me you idiot.

    Surreal American, yeah what ever dude, you can come try and help your girl friend S me TFU.

    It would not go through.

    Question have you ever said any thing to any of these liberals about anything they say? I don’t come around much anymore but I still don’t see it. If you had said something to the dude provoking me into defending my honor, that would have been nice.

    Also, I am more then willing to be a participant in a OTB pseudo celebrity boxing or MMA charity event. We can call it SMTFU for the kids.

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  36. G.A.Phillips says:

    GA, how many times have I told you to keep your finger out of your nose in public. It’s just rude.

    :) Best pic I got Janis, It’s me holding back half my brain to make it fair.

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  37. Surreal American says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    Your gracious invitation notwithstanding, you appear to have severe hygiene issues. So no thanks.

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  38. Kylopod says:

    GA Phillips is the Sarah Palin of OTD.

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  39. KM says:

    @wr:

    I’m sure it’s not your favorite part of co-running this blog.

    Agreed. Cheers, Doug – you and yours can have it rough sometimes. I do like that the majority of posters try and keep it civil despite the…..conflicting…. opinions around here. We may not always like each other but we do try and keep it calm enough the mods don’t have to step in. Can’t say that for most of sites out there….

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  40. Pinky says:

    @KM: Wasn’t it just yesterday that someone on the left told Manning that he should die? I don’t remember, was there a mod lecture about that?

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  41. Pinky says:

    Anyway, I don’t see why Doug wrote this whole article about Jesse Jackson. He’s not a viable candidate anymore, and while he does have a core group who will always back him, he’s not a part of the national conversation. So what if a little more than half of the surveyed population wants him to go away? You’ve noted when other surveys are pointless, but I guess getting in a shot at Jesse was too high a priority. I wish you’d just lay off bashing the left all the time, Doug. Your partisanship is a drag on this site.

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  42. G.A.Phillips says:

    Your entire “case” rests on a ludicrous rhetorical question? That’s pretty, um, substantial.

    Huh? You liberals think that gay marriage, abortion and separation of church and state are in the Constitution and think it was written to enforce communism. Your whole understanding of it is a ludicrous rhetorical question.

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  43. Pinky says:

    @Kylopod: GA Phillips is off the Derekh?

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  44. Neil Hudelson says:

    Gentlemen and Ladies,

    Everyone here has seen G.A.’s history of posts. We know–and I think this is fairly evident, and not necessarily a baseless insult–that he’s not the sharpest person on the internet. That said, he’s actually fairly nice most times, he just believes some pretty stupid things.

    So why are you letting a nice, gentle, dimwit goad you into responding? You are better than that. You can tell from his comments that he doesn’t think things through. You know from history that he cannot back up his “ideas” and that he won’t even try.

    Just let him say his piece, ignore it, and he won’t post more.

    Please stop letting him thread jack by responding and feeding his ego.

    Now, to the topic at hand.

    I think most Americans in general want loud politicians to go away, and Sarah is the loudest. When it comes to hardcore political nerds, like the commentariat here, however, I can’t help but think its the liberals (myself included) who want to keep her around.

    She helps us raise funds, she motivates our voters more than any of our own politicians, and she helps us message to the rest of the world just how f-ed up the current Republican party is.

    She is a blessing to liberalism and the Democratic party, and I for one hopes she gets a bigger microphone.

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  45. G.A.Phillips says:

    Wasn’t it just yesterday that someone on the left told Manning that he should die? I don’t remember, was there a mod lecture about that?

    So telling when this comment gets a hate vote and no other response.

    Oh well. Let the group think continue…

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  46. G.A.Phillips says:

    Everyone here has seen G.A.’s history of posts. We know–and I think this is fairly evident, and not necessarily a baseless insult–that he’s not the sharpest person on the internet. That said, he’s actually fairly nice most times, he just believes some pretty stupid things.

    lol… right back at ya Hercules :)

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  47. G.A.Phillips says:

    Anyone ever tell you people that hate voting will get you nowhere and is bad for your karma?

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  48. KM says:

    @Pinky:

    @KM: Wasn’t it just yesterday that someone on the left told Manning that he should die? I don’t remember, was there a mod lecture about that?

    Very possible – I don’t read all the threads so I think I missed that one. Would you remember which one it was?

    I’m not saying we can’t be kinda horrible as a group or individually. There are times when people have stepped out of line and not been called to the carpet when they really really should have been. But this thread is seeing a poster with a steady aggressive tone that’s not a one off or a bad day. Please don’t see this as an us-vs-them; he’s not being picked on because of his politics. He got a mod comment because its blatantly unacceptable. I fully expect Doug or James to rake me over the coals if I act like that – or if they don’t, the posters here should. Feel free to call me out if I’m being rude but kindly expect the same, ok?

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  49. CB says:

    @Doug Mataconis:

    Take action, take action already!

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  50. Have a Nice G.A. says:

    Something truly needs to be done about these unatheistic terroristic troll threadjackers. They just totally ruin the bliss of rational higher judgment and implacation.

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  51. KM says:

    @Neil Hudelson:

    I think most Americans in general want loud politicians to go away, and Sarah is the loudest. When it comes to hardcore political nerds, like the commentariat here, however, I can’t help but think its the liberals (myself included) who want to keep her around.

    She helps us raise funds, she motivates our voters more than any of our own politicians, and she helps us message to the rest of the world just how f-ed up the current Republican party is.

    And that’s bad messaging on the left if you really think about it. You should never be defined as the “anti” – as it, “Hey, at least they’re not X!” The left is absolutely terrible at getting their message out in a coherent manner – on that front, they are getting their asses handed to them repeatedly. Hate to say it but a big selling point for Obama was he wasn’t McCain (or properly, wasn’t Palin).

    A party should for be for something, be defined by the positions they advocate, not repudiated. A candidate shouldn’t be the lesser of two evils. How sad for us as a system that we don’t even see that as normal anymore…..

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  52. Tillman says:

    @Pinky: Uhh, nope. Just Ctrl-F’d “die” to look for that in the thread, and the closest someone got to that was “Manning, having tried everything else to ensure the GOP as a viable party dies with him, decides to go all in for one last gasp.” (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/sarah-palin-says-its-time-to-impeach-obama/#comment-1949625) Not quite what you were implying.

    Also I’d love to hear about Jon Stewart being the hero for uneducated white folks. That’s bound to be intriguing.

    @G.A.Phillips: Hilariously, responded to it before you noted a lack of response. Go me!

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  53. anjin-san says:

    @ Jenos

    Her books sell better than Hillary Clinton’s. Her TV shows get better ratings than Chelsea Clinton’s.

    And Miley Cyrus & Justin Bierber regularly sell out their concerts. There will always be a market for garbage.

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  54. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    I find myself with two questions:

    1) Just how did Cliffy get his blanket immunity from the Terms of Service that keep getting invoked against conservative commenters here?

    2) How can anyone else get in on it?

    For the record, in the past few weeks Cliffy has called one person a “douche-fvck,” told another to “blow me” (meaning Cliffy, not me), and here used the acronym STFU (which means, to use his own bowdlerlized spelling, “Shut The Fvck Up”). And I don’t believe he’s gotten anything stronger than down-twinkles. Hell, his “SFTU” here has, at this point, three up-twinkles and two down-twinkles.

    On the “blow me” thread (where I was threatened with the TOS for using Cliffy’s own terms against him), his “blow me” got four up-twinkles and eight down-twinkles, and no harsh words.

    It’s your site and you get to set the rules, but you have at least a moral obligation to enforce them in some semblance of fairness.

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  55. anjin-san says:

    @ Jenos

    For the record, in the past few weeks Cliffy has called one person a “douche-fvck,”

    And you promptly started imitating him. Go find a hanky, have a nice cry, and try to do something productive with the rest of your day.

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  56. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    @anjin-san: And Miley Cyrus & Justin Bierber regularly sell out their concerts. There will always be a market for garbage.

    True dat. Look at how many people cite Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert as their primary sources of news.

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  57. Meaning Of That says:

    Feel free to call me out if I’m being rude but kindly expect the same, ok?

    Don’t worry, He is just an ignorant uneducated hyper partisan conservative troll that needs to STFU.

    You know those Christian white male Palin worshipers are just in all reality aggressive predators that only think with their prehistoric religious books and vile reproductive organs. They probably only worship her because they want to mate with her like the unevolved primates that they still are.

    She is so mind numbingly clueless in anything she screams out in her so called political commentary that this must be the case. Even if she did make any sense, I don’t see how with their simple, simple little fairy tale controlled brains they would understand anyway.

    Do not fear her, the priestess of Wasilla or him. Have strength in knowledge and keep moving forward.

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  58. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    Oh, and one of MSNBC’s hosts doesn’t think that Palin should go away.

    Anyone interested in a border visit is interested in pumping the brakes. The President is acutely aware of the dire situation facing the children and their families crossing into the United States, as evidenced by his tireless effort to help them. The President’s push towards positive and crucial change was met with treasonous accusations.

    And then played a selectively edited clip of Palin talking about impeaching Obama.

    That’s right. Discussing impeachment is TREASON.

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  59. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    @Meaning Of That: Sir or Madam, that was truly brilliant satire. You perfectly captured the obsession so many on the left have with Palin. I bow before your greatness.

    Unless that was serious, in which case… DUDE.

    Go to Colorado and get some legal weed.

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  60. Pinky says:

    @Tillman: Uhh, nope. You posted the first half of Davebo’s comment. The second half, after an upthread discussion not of death panels but of the claim that Manning was over 90, was “I think Death Panels for the elderly may have been the only good idea Palin ever came up with.” I generally think of you as someone willing to give both sides a fair hearing, but the fact that you posted a two-sentence comment and edited out the sentence calling for Manning’s death, well, help me out here, how can I not think of you in a worse light?

    I just re-checked the thread. There was no mention of health care before that comment. Literally no mention of it – it’s got to be the first thread in history like that. Nothing about Hobby Lobby, contraception coverage, the ACA, nothing. Manning says he’s in his 90’s, and Davebo says that he endorses death panels for the elderly. Class act.

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  61. Pinky says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: Obvious satire.

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  62. G.A.Phillips says:

    I understand that I can’t get away with what I used to here for some reason, I agreed to it and apologized. Guess I am not the favorite pet troll anymore. Maybe it is the liberal collective here that has taken my place. Things that make you go hmmm…

    I will apologize again, forgive me C. Clavin, I over reacted to your statement. I apologize to Surreal American also, forgive me, I have no idea if you even like girls.

    That last part was a joke. S.A.

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  63. G.A.Phillips says:

    Sir or Madam, that was truly brilliant satire. You perfectly captured the obsession so many on the left have with Palin. I bow before your greatness.

    Sorry, that was my third personality in this tread Jenos old pal. I am laid off again and have nothing better to do.

    And I still haven’t gotten over Harry, er, michael reynolds saying that conservatives have no imagination all those years ago…

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  64. Janis Gore says:

    @G.A.Phillips: That’s what I thought, GA. It puts you under a lot of stress, and I’m sorry it’s happened again.

    I’m not a Communist, honey, but I am a fellow traveler.

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  65. Pinky says:

    @G.A.Phillips: Easy to spot. “They probably only worship her because they want to mate with her…”. I’ve never seen a Palin-hater who was aware that a man might want to have non-violent sex with her.

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  66. Tillman says:

    @Pinky: Oh I see. Didn’t look at that sentence, so I didn’t technically “edit it out.” (So we’re taking mannning (with three N’s) at his word that he’s around or over ninety years old? michael reynolds being a published YA author stretches my disbelief enough as it is.)

    I see where you got the idea, but you are taking it in its worst light.

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  67. Matt Bernius says:

    @Pinky:

    Wasn’t it just yesterday that someone on the left told Manning that he should die? I don’t remember, was there a mod lecture about that?

    We have recently had an uptick in both comments and more “attack” comments. The mods have noticed this and we’re working to stem the tide. We are doing our best to apply the TOS to all posters. That said we don’t get the chance to parse every comment closely.

    (note: I wrote this second part and *thought* I posted it before I went to lunch — that wasn’t the case and so it’s a little behind in the conversation).
    I went back and tried to find the comment that you were referring to. This was the closest I could find:

    Manning, having tried everything else to ensure the GOP as a viable party dies with him, decides to go all in for one last gasp.

    I think Death Panels for the elderly may have been the only good idea Palin ever came up with.

    While I agree that this is not the most civil of comments, it takes interpretation to get to the conclusion you reached.

    That’s different that “STUF”, “fvck off”, or a lot of other stuff that has recently become common. We are dealing with the big issues first and foremost.

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  68. G.A.Phillips says:

    That’s what I thought, GA. It puts you under a lot of stress, and I’m sorry it’s happened again.

    I’m not a Communist, honey, but I am a fellow traveler.

    It’s all good, you know I love everyone and get to stupid some times to get my point or what I think is a point across :) and while trying to get some to think outside their box.

    I probably should print up an easy click and past disclaimer about how I have a burnt up higher I.Q. and that I used to be a militant pervert and that I rode the short bus, was a stoner, been to many a rehab and all that like I told everyone here years ago. How I have lived on both sides of the worldview thingy. And that I am mostly self educated and I study the crap out of stuff before I argue/debate/shoot the poop about it.

    But then again not many ever gave me any credit for my vast knowledge and experience when I did because the can only see me as Rush knockoff. And come to think of it, attack me with my openness.
    meh, I still have a good time here mostly.

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  69. rudderpedals says:

    Men want to sleep with her. Women want to BE her.

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  70. Matt Bernius says:

    Look, for those on the thread/OTB with persecution complexes, we only just agreed — as Mods — that the incivility has reached a tipping point.

    And, if you note, in the first post addressing the issue, I was careful not to specifically target any individual poster.

    If people have continued to use “fvck you”, etc, since that warning and we have ignored it, please point it out.

    But complaining that you are being “selectively” modded because of your positions, political views, etc is simply not correct. And if you truly feel this level of persecution, we encourage you not to return to this site in the future.

    But if you (and this is a collective “you”) continue to complain about how you are being “picked on”, we will be happy to actually give you something to complain about.

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  71. Janis Gore says:

    @G.A.Phillips: Then get your finger out of your nose, son.

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  72. Tillman says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: I got as far as “The guest host of The Ed Show” before stopping, because Ed Schultz is a total jackass not worth listening to. He’s like Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin without the audience.

    Now I’ll wait for you to say Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin are total jackasses not worth listening to so we can both establish our Reasonable Dude™ credentials.

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  73. wr says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: Because publicly praising your own sock puppets when no one else will always works.

    Good move there!

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  74. wr says:

    @wr: Oops, it wasn’t Jenos’s sock puppet, it was GA’s. Amazing how similarly they write!

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  75. wr says:

    @G.A.Phillips: “I am laid off again ”

    I am sorry to hear that, GA, and not just because it gives you more time to post here. I hope you get called back — or find a better job — soon.

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  76. G.A.Phillips says:

    Oops, it wasn’t Jenos’s sock puppet, it was GA’s. Amazing how similarly they write!

    Truth man, it is what you will never get. Well I guess you are starting to find a clue in an abstracted way. Maybe, I guess it could just be seeming.

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  77. Tillman says:

    @Matt Bernius: If this thread has taught me anything, it’s that, agree with her or not, Sarah Palin brings out the worst in everyone.

    :D

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  78. G.A.Phillips says:

    I am sorry to hear that, GA, and not just because it gives you more time to post here. I hope you get called back — or find a better job — soon.

    Thanks bro. I build cranes so it kind of comes with the territory, but this economy sure is not helping.

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  79. G.A.Phillips says:

    If this thread has taught me anything, it’s that, agree with her or not, Sarah Palin brings out the worst in everyone.

    She truly does make me think bad thoughts :)

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  80. G.A.Phillips says:

    Because publicly praising your own sock puppets when no one else will always works.

    Hell man I did the ranting troll, the mock liberal elitist and the average collage trained liberal elitist’s brain washing victim/blogger. I should get some credit for something :( Even if I was a sock puppet…

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  81. Neil Hudelson says:

    G.A.,

    I’ll second WR’s wish for you to find a job. I’ve been unemployed once for an extended period of time. It’s not pleasant whatsoever. Wishing you the best.

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  82. Matt Bernius says:

    @Neil Hudelson:

    I’ll second WR’s wish for you to find a job. I’ve been unemployed once for an extended period of time. It’s not pleasant whatsoever. Wishing you the best.

    Thirded. Went through extended unemployment as well. It’s miserable and I hope @G.A. gets back to work soon.

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  83. Pinky says:

    @Tillman: What I’m trying not to take in its worst light is that you missed a sentence in a two-sentence comment. The sentence with the word “death” in it. It doesn’t matter to me if he claims to be over 90, but it matters to me if someone replies by saying that old people should die. Maybe I’m putting the worst spin on it because I saw how out-of-the-blue the comment was. One of those “you had to be there” things.

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  84. G.A.Phillips says:

    Neil, I should be getting called back but who knows. I am working at setting up a card/game store now. Magic the gathering. something I have always wanted to do, sit around drinking coffee listing to Maiden and killing fools.(killing as in win the game) But thanks bro. I’ll pray for you also :)

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  85. Neil Hudelson says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    A card/game store just opened down the street with a pretty (I think) novel idea–you and your friends can rent time to play their library of games, which is quite extensive. They advertise it as a way to “try before you buy,” which I’m sure works. My friends and I, however, find it a great use of $20 to spend an afternoon (the fact that they let us bring a growler or two from the microbrew around the corner helps a lot too).

    Just an unsolicited idea.

    (I won’t apologize for this thread jack, as this thread seems to be completely lost from the original intent.)

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  86. Matt Bernius says:

    @Neil Hudelson:

    A card/game store just opened down the street with a pretty (I think) novel idea–you and your friends can rent time to play their library of games, which is quite extensive.

    Seconded on this suggestion. The shop in our building does the same thing. It also reached out to local gaming clubs via meetup and rents out space for meetings.

    GA be sure not to limit yourself just to CCGs. Dice games have really taken off in recent years. Likewise, board games seem to be having quite the resurgence.

    (I won’t apologize for this thread jack, as this thread seems to be completely lost from the original intent.)

    That isn’t a bad thing either.

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  87. Janis Gore says:

    @Neil Hudelson: I certainly don’t want to listen to Sarah Palin until she puts up a tried-and-true sports line of clothing. She has a good record in basketball, she is a runner, and she’s certainly good-looking enough to market her stuff. Especially to us oldies. Think Jane Fonda.

    She also has a lot to say about Down’s Syndrome children, I’d hope. She can talk to me about that, and I’ll listen.

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  88. Tillman says:

    @Pinky: Possibly. I went through that entire thread not realizing mannning was supposed to be over ninety.

    And I did say I Ctrl+F’d “die.”

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  89. Pinky says:

    @Tillman: Yeah, yeah, you’re a regular customer so we’ll accept your check. Rules say you shouldn’t be leaving here with your groceries, but we’ll let you slide because we know you. I’m mostly miffed that I had to read through that thread again. Man, that was dull.

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  90. Matt Bernius says:

    Just a quick note in Tillman’s defense…

    @Tillman:

    And I did say I Ctrl+F’d “die.”

    I did the exact same thing on the thread. And then tried “kill” and a couple other terms to find the comment to no avail. I ended up having to read every response to @Mannning to find the one in question.

    We try to read every comment that appears on the site. But that really means scan. Hence why it’s easier for us to catch the “biggies” (i.e. the nice, direct, no subtext or interpretation).

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  91. J-Dub says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: Navy CORPSE-men, “breathalyzers” for asthmatics, “unbroken line of fallen heroes, and I see many of them in the audience here today…”

    Except I’m not talking about the occasional misstep while speaking, which everyone is prone to. I’m talking about her manner of speaking, where she changes the order of her wording to try and sound more intelligent than she is.

    She also uses demonstratives to such a large degree that there is this paper about it in the Journal of Sociolinguistics: http://web.stanford.edu/~cgpotts/papers/acton-potts-palindems.pdf

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  92. J-Dub says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13:

    Boom, I found exactly what I was looking for online. This guy explains Palin-speak to a T:

    http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/john-mcwhorter/what-does-palinspeak-mean

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  93. grumpy realist says:

    I’m old enough to remember “Haigspeak.” Sarah Palin is worse. We’d discover that the Russians would have interpreted one of her comments as declaring war against them only when the bombs begin to fall.

    And if you don’t have enough consideration for your audience to make certain you communicate clearly and precisely, why should you be listened to?

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  94. J-Dub says:

    @Pinky: Actually, I think Jon Stewart is the hero of uneducated white folks.

    If that were true then you would see advertisements on his show for gold coins and survival kits. You need to go over to Fox to get inundated with those.

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  95. G.A.Phillips says:

    Seconded on this suggestion. The shop in our building does the same thing. It also reached out to local gaming clubs via meetup and rents out space for meetings.

    GA be sure not to limit yourself just to CCGs. Dice games have really taken off in recent years. Likewise, board games seem to be having quite the resurgence.

    You can actually make money if you have enough space by having weekly tournaments. I have been a war gamer since I was around ten. I even DM’ed for TSR back in the day at GEN CON. I was planning on a little bit of this and a little bit of that too.

    There are a lot of smaller dice/card games out that I love like Killer Bunnies that not many people know about. It would be good to expose people to them. Plus my friends buy storage lockers and come across a lot of board game and comic books. Going to make a section like we hope.

    My plan now is to get a wall and a display cabinet or two at a thrift store a couple of friends of mine are about to open.

    A card/game store just opened down the street with a pretty (I think) novel idea–you and your friends can rent time to play their library of games, which is quite extensive.

    That’s a great idea.

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  96. Tillman says:

    @Pinky:

    I’m mostly miffed that I had to read through that thread again. Man, that was dull.

    God, I know, right?

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  97. Janis Gore says:

    @Janis Gore: And when her knees break down after all that punishing running, she can model swimsuits.

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  98. DrDaveT says:

    @J-Dub: McWhorter is one of the people who, whenever I read something he’s written, I feel like I get smarter and know more than I did. Even when I disagree with him. He makes me think well; I like that.

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  99. Scott O says:

    @G.A.Phillips:

    6’1” 215 lbs

    You sound like a studly dude, maybe you could get a job at Talon News.

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  100. bill says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: it’s like she has some kind of ‘howard stern” thing going on with those who hate her. they love to hate her so much they give her lots of attention. she in turn laughs all the way to the bank, and they don’t get it?! aside from guns, hobby lobby and that deserter dude a few weeks back she reels in the hate in here.

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  101. Just 'nutha' ig'rant cracker says:

    @Pinky: Did Manning say he was in his 90s? I was the person who suggested that it was possible, but my point was that I thought he was being untruthful about when he “realized” that Presidents who were black dishonest should be impeached. I never got back to the thread. I guess I’ll have to go now to see if you are reading things correctly.

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  102. Pinky says:

    @Just ‘nutha’ ig’rant cracker: No, he didn’t say so. He said that he’d realized whatever it was about impeachment in 1940, and someone else did the math. He could be in his 90’s. He could be in his 100’s. Or he could have hit the wrong key. Or he could be messing with us. The point is, if I said I was Jewish, and someone replied that now they understood the Holocaust, that could reasonably be deduced to be an insult.

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