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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72715</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, but what is clear, from the evidence of historical fact, is that raising taxes to pay for increased spending, or otherwise running sound fiscal policy is consistent with economic growth and prosperity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sorry Ken, but that is just nonsense.  While there are good arguments for not running deficits and even in certain circumstances raising taxes, this is not one of them.

Spencer,

Good point.  I hadn&#039;t consider that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, but what is clear, from the evidence of historical fact, is that raising taxes to pay for increased spending, or otherwise running sound fiscal policy is consistent with economic growth and prosperity.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm sorry Ken, but that is just nonsense.  While there are good arguments for not running deficits and even in certain circumstances raising taxes, this is not one of them.</p>
<p>Spencer,</p>
<p>Good point.  I hadn't consider that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Econbrowser</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72693</link>
		<dc:creator>Econbrowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest employment data...

The latest employment data are quite encouraging, though some may have overstated the case for enthusiasm.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest employment data...</p>
<p>The latest employment data are quite encouraging, though some may have overstated the case for enthusiasm.<br />
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		<title>By: Robert Prather</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72686</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Prather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Spencer said: the relatively weak increases in payroll employment have coincided with unusually strong, and consistent until last month, growth in labor productivity.  It may make the jobs picture weak for now, but it will pay huge dividends in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Spencer said: the relatively weak increases in payroll employment have coincided with unusually strong, and consistent until last month, growth in labor productivity.  It may make the jobs picture weak for now, but it will pay huge dividends in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72662</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the flip side of productivity growth.

From 1960 to 1974 productivity growth was about 66% of real GDP growth.  In the low productivity era of 1975-95 productivity growth was about 50% of real gdp growth.  Since 1995 it has been almost 90%.  This meant that from 1960 to 1974 a 1% increase in real gdp generated a 0.3% increse in employment -- technically hours worked. From 1975 to 95 it was 0.5%, but now each 1% increase in real gdp only generates a 0.1% icrease in employment.  

So if you have average growth and above average productivity you have to have below average employment growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the flip side of productivity growth.</p>
<p>From 1960 to 1974 productivity growth was about 66% of real GDP growth.  In the low productivity era of 1975-95 productivity growth was about 50% of real gdp growth.  Since 1995 it has been almost 90%.  This meant that from 1960 to 1974 a 1% increase in real gdp generated a 0.3% increse in employment -- technically hours worked. From 1975 to 95 it was 0.5%, but now each 1% increase in real gdp only generates a 0.1% icrease in employment.  </p>
<p>So if you have average growth and above average productivity you have to have below average employment growth.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72629</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, but has OTB been hacked?  I can&#039;t believe what I&#039;m reading over here tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, but has OTB been hacked?  I can't believe what I'm reading over here tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72620</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems strange that a system that sees wages as theft of profit would be proud of 193000 new payroll jobs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems strange that a system that sees wages as theft of profit would be proud of 193000 new payroll jobs</p>
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		<title>By: DWPittelli</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/193000_new_payroll_jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-72613</link>
		<dc:creator>DWPittelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another factor which could make most of the growth difference all on its own: Oil (and gas) prices were low and trending downward throughout the 1990s, and rising in the last 6 years (from a nadir below $10 per barrel in 1999 to a peak over $45 a few months ago). Both trends were due more to demand from Asia than anything under the control of the US. (Production has been climbing over the least few years, just not as much as demand growth.) The US consumes 20 million barrels per day, so a $35 price increase amounts to over $250 billion per year in extra costs, a little over half of which money ends up overseas; these cost increases also necessitated tougher Fed action (markedly higher interest rates) to prevent Consumer Price Index increases (i.e., inflation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another factor which could make most of the growth difference all on its own: Oil (and gas) prices were low and trending downward throughout the 1990s, and rising in the last 6 years (from a nadir below $10 per barrel in 1999 to a peak over $45 a few months ago). Both trends were due more to demand from Asia than anything under the control of the US. (Production has been climbing over the least few years, just not as much as demand growth.) The US consumes 20 million barrels per day, so a $35 price increase amounts to over $250 billion per year in extra costs, a little over half of which money ends up overseas; these cost increases also necessitated tougher Fed action (markedly higher interest rates) to prevent Consumer Price Index increases (i.e., inflation).</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, it isn&#039;t clear that keeping taxes lower, increasing spending, and running large deficits will solve this problem.

No, but what is clear, from the evidence of historical fact, is that raising taxes to pay for increased spending, or otherwise running sound fiscal policy is consistent with economic growth and prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, it isn't clear that keeping taxes lower, increasing spending, and running large deficits will solve this problem.</p>
<p>No, but what is clear, from the evidence of historical fact, is that raising taxes to pay for increased spending, or otherwise running sound fiscal policy is consistent with economic growth and prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: 3moreyears</title>
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		<dc:creator>3moreyears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t know why?  Come on!  It&#039;s the return of supply side, &quot;voodoo&quot;, economics.  Didn&#039;t work then...doesn&#039;t work now.  Maybe it&#039;s the record deficit, record foreign investment, record trade deficit... Hmmm, do any of those things actually matter?  I think you guys need to face some hard facts, your boy&#039;s a loser and the sooner we&#039;re done with these assinine policies, the better!

You forgot to mention that the net wealth of the upper 1% has increased dramatically during these years while everyone from there on down has suffered.  Talk about redistribution of wealth!

By the way, many right wing blogs are too busy touting these wonderful numbers to see the reality behind them.  I commend you on your honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don't know why?  Come on!  It's the return of supply side, "voodoo", economics.  Didn't work then...doesn't work now.  Maybe it's the record deficit, record foreign investment, record trade deficit... Hmmm, do any of those things actually matter?  I think you guys need to face some hard facts, your boy's a loser and the sooner we're done with these assinine policies, the better!</p>
<p>You forgot to mention that the net wealth of the upper 1% has increased dramatically during these years while everyone from there on down has suffered.  Talk about redistribution of wealth!</p>
<p>By the way, many right wing blogs are too busy touting these wonderful numbers to see the reality behind them.  I commend you on your honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Soldier's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soldier's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acording to www.bls.gov

Employment-population ratioType of data:        Percent

The post WWII high employment rate was 64.7% of the population over the age of 16.

The current employment rate is 62.9% of the population over the age of 16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acording to <a href="http://www.bls.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.bls.gov</a></p>
<p>Employment-population ratioType of data:        Percent</p>
<p>The post WWII high employment rate was 64.7% of the population over the age of 16.</p>
<p>The current employment rate is 62.9% of the population over the age of 16.</p>
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		<title>By: NoZe</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoZe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...let&#039;s see, who was president back in the 1990s? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm...let's see, who was president back in the 1990s? ;-)</p>
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