Hamdania.
Hadditha.
One wonders how long it'll be before we hear that Murtha just reversed the two names, and it was all an honest misunderstanding?

Don't hold your breath Bithead.

I want to know when the enemy(ies) are going to start holding courts-martial on their members. I won't hold my breath for it.

I want to know when the enemy(ies) are going to start holding courts-martial on their members. I won't hold my breath for it.

Yes, we should hold our military to the same standards that Al Qaeda holds its members to. It's only fair. Right?

GRew;

So, are we now have to take it that you see value in having our boys fighting with one arm tied behind their back?

Grewgills: I was not insinuating that we should not hold ourselves to a higher standard. Quite the opposite, I believe we should and I wear the uniform and have for almost 19 years now.

My point is that despite all of the hollering from liberals about coverups and abusing prisoners, etc. we do in fact hold ourselves to a higher standard.

So, are we now have to take it that you see value in having our boys fighting with one arm tied behind their back?

WTF are you talking about Bithead?

So, are we now have to take it that you see value in having our boys fighting with one arm tied behind their back?

What part of "our boys fighting" includes dragging a man they had no reason to believe was an insurgent from his house, shooting him, then trying to make it look like he was planting a bomb as a coverup?

If not murdering innocents is something you consider "having one arm tied behind their back", then yes, I see value in that. If that means we can't in in Iraq, then we shouldn't be there.

My point is that despite all of the hollering from liberals about coverups and abusing prisoners, etc. we do in fact hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Fair enough, but your point made it seem like you consider holding ourselves to that higher standard a bad thing.

Now taking odds on whether the sentence is "time already served."

Now taking odds on whether the sentence is "time already served."

My guess is not. Hutchins was the ringleader and doesn't come off as sympathetic. But who knows?

So, are we now have to take it that you see value in having our boys fighting with one arm tied behind their back?

Shorter Bithead:
I want our troops to murder innocent civilians.

Shorter Right Wing Blogosphere:
BUT SCOTT BEAUCHAMP SAID STUFF!@!!!!

Tut-tut, my dear Andy. The gentleman doesn't *want* our troops to murder innocent civilians.

He simply could not care less if they do so.

Actually, Anderson, many in the main stream of the right wing (e.g. NRO's The Corner) have called our handling of Muslims weak and called for retaliatory carpet bombing of their cities. Hell, they've got a presidential candidate who's threatening to nuke Mecca.

Killing a few innocent civies during a patrol isn't something they find disgraceful or even distasteful; to them it's an appetizer.

I presume the acquittal on kidnapping, assualt, and housebreaking — which would seem to be obvious lesser includeds in this case — was on technical grounds.

You give juries too much credit. More likely they horse-traded to render a verdict they were collectively able to decide was 'just.' You see weird results sometimes from juries. A colleague of mine had one last year in a rape/kidnapping case that was so bizarre, not even the prosecution was prepared to recommend a sentence to match it.

I don't want our boys fighting with one arm tied their back but at the same time even in the war there are moral to follow. No one need to teach what is wrong and what is right to our soldiers, because they are already thought on those things in the training. They can not blame the situation to escape from their mistakes....
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