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		<title>By: Stephen Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 04:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stephen Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James (and others),

Just to clarify, it was a close friend with whom I was talking to and the conversation was pretty unremarkable content-wise -- details of our personal lives, a date I went on, this guy&#039;s cute, that sort of thing.  The policy doesn&#039;t neccessarily need a specific admission of an act, &quot;I&#039;m gay&quot; is enough.   The law comflates a statement of identify with actions.  Regardless, I don&#039;t dispute that it was a mistake to use the government computers, but the discplinary action for that was done with for nearly a month when they told me they were going to kick me out.  Note that the other 68 heterosexual servicemembers are still serving.

I also don&#039;t blame the military, as it has been noted they were following the law.  Some commanders do ignore the law and turn a blind eye to gay servicemembers, the Navy didn&#039;t in my case and many others.  It does need to be Congress that enacts repeal, specifically Ike Skelton needs to allow hearings on the bill he&#039;s holding up in the Armed Services comittee.

It&#039;s been more than 12 years since Congress has talked about this, and now more than ever it&#039;s critically important that the country gets the best and brightest in the military.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not asking to turn military bases into gay pride parades, I just want to live my life and be judged on my merits.  I want the witchhunts to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James (and others),</p>
<p>Just to clarify, it was a close friend with whom I was talking to and the conversation was pretty unremarkable content-wise -- details of our personal lives, a date I went on, this guy's cute, that sort of thing.  The policy doesn't neccessarily need a specific admission of an act, "I'm gay" is enough.   The law comflates a statement of identify with actions.  Regardless, I don't dispute that it was a mistake to use the government computers, but the discplinary action for that was done with for nearly a month when they told me they were going to kick me out.  Note that the other 68 heterosexual servicemembers are still serving.</p>
<p>I also don't blame the military, as it has been noted they were following the law.  Some commanders do ignore the law and turn a blind eye to gay servicemembers, the Navy didn't in my case and many others.  It does need to be Congress that enacts repeal, specifically Ike Skelton needs to allow hearings on the bill he's holding up in the Armed Services comittee.</p>
<p>It's been more than 12 years since Congress has talked about this, and now more than ever it's critically important that the country gets the best and brightest in the military.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to turn military bases into gay pride parades, I just want to live my life and be judged on my merits.  I want the witchhunts to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: BlogRunner: U.S. military continues to discharge gay Arab linguists, and Congress members seek hearing</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogRunner: U.S. military continues to discharge gay Arab linguists, and Congress members seek hearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] U.S. military continues to discharge gay Arab linguists, and Congress members seek hearingLawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.  ARTICLE &raquo;  International Herald Tribune Thursday, May 24TAGS: &#8226;  BlogRunner &gt; Congress &#160;   Who's Blogging  View as List View as Thread   Most Relevant First Most Recent First 58 Gay Arab Linguists Ousted From Military James Joyner Outside the Beltway  elap('1180004097');The military has discharged 58 gay Arab linguists under Pubic Law 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654), otherwise known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." US military kicks out 3 more Arabic linguists for being gay John Aravosis DC AMERICAblog  elap('1179959340');Sure, we won't be able to stop the next September 11 from killing perhaps tens of thousands of people because we don't have enough linguists to translate the terrorist chatter, but at least they stopped the gay linguists ... This is criminalFighting the Real Menace Kevin Drum Political Animal  elap('1180027839');speaking jihadists who are trying to.. ... James Joyner says, "The military is simply following the law, ousting service members who make it publicly manifest that they are gay.Military still discharging linguists Paul Right Side of the Rainbow  elap('1180017341');Question: &#8226; Is a disproportionate percentage of the Arab population gay, or is a disproportionate percentage of the gay population Arabic speaking? It must be a conspiracy BlondeSense Liz BlondeSense  elap('1179990600');Three more Arab translators were fired for being gay and that brings the number of fired gay Arab linguists to 58. WTF is the matter with our leaders? I am outraged. Three More Gay Arab Linguists Discharged Michael Gay Orbit  elap('1180011603');Insane. Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go. Firing Arab Linguists Andrew Sullivan The Daily Dish  elap('1180020780');The military should surely not be training Arab translators, only to fire them because they're gay. Three more have recently been shown the door . Just crazy. 'What?' Attaturk Rising Hegemon  elap('1179979860');Thank goodness we are still biting our nose to smite our face...Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.Seizing on t... You can serve your country if you're mentally ill or a felon, but gay? No way! Jill Brilliant at Breakfast  elap('1179984780');As the decimation of the U.S. military under George W. Bush continues, with criminals and the mentally ill being recruited in a desperate effort to fill the ranks, there is still one group that is judged unfit to serve: gay Americans ... As far as this homophobic bunch is concerned, it is better for the U.S. to be attacked than to allow gay Arabic speakers to serve...ThinkFast: May 24, 2007 Think Progress Think Progress  elap('1180011560');During her testimony yesterday, former Justice official Monica Goodling "repeatedly declined to estimate how many times she had considered political affiliations in career hiring decisions." ...Three more military language specialists have been discharged for being gay, and the House Armed Services Committee wants the Pentagon â€śto explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go. U.S. military continues to discharge gay Arab linguists, and Congress members seek hearing  International Herald Tribune elap('1179985202');Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go. US military kicks out 3 more Arabic linguists for being gayAMERICAblog elap('1179959340');John Aravosis DC: Sure, we won't be able to stop the next September 11 from killing perhaps tens of thousands of people because we don't have enough linguists to translate the terrorist chatter, but at least they stopped the gay linguists... This is criminal 58 Gay Arab Linguists Ousted From Military Outside the Beltway elap('1180004097');James Joyner: The military has discharged 58 gay Arab linguists under Pubic Law 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654), otherwise known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."... â€ť John Aravosis declares, â€śwe have complete bozos running our military. Fighting the Real MenacePolitical Animal elap('1180027839');Kevin Drum: speaking jihadists who are trying to... James Joyner says, "The military is simply following the law, ousting service members who make it publicly manifest that they are gay. Three More Gay Arab Linguists DischargedGay Orbit elap('1180011603');Michael: Insane. Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go. It must be a conspiracy BlondeSense elap('1179990600');BlondeSense Liz: Three more Arab translators were fired for being gay and that brings the number of fired gay Arab linguists to 58. WTF is the matter with our leaders? I am outraged. Military still discharging linguistsRight Side of the Rainbow elap('1180017341');Paul: Question: &#8226; Is a disproportionate percentage of the Arab population gay, or is a disproportionate percentage of the gay population Arabic speaking? ThinkFast: May 24, 2007 Think Progress elap('1180011560');Think Progress: During her testimony yesterday, former Justice official Monica Goodling "repeatedly declined to estimate how many times she had considered political affiliations in career hiring decisions."... Three more military language specialists have been discharged for being gay, and the House Armed Services Committee wants the Pentagon â€śto explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go. 58 Gay Arab Linguists Ousted From Military Outside the Beltway elap('1180004097');James Joyner: The military has discharged 58 gay Arab linguists under Pubic Law 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654), otherwise known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." "What?" Rising Hegemon elap('1179979860');Attaturk: Thank goodness we are still biting our nose to smite our face...Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.Seizing on t... You can serve your country if you're mentally ill or a felon, but gay? No way! Brilliant at Breakfast elap('1179984780');Jill: As the decimation of the U.S. military under George W. Bush continues, with criminals and the mentally ill being recruited in a desperate effort to fill the ranks, there is still one group that is judged unfit to serve: gay Americans... As far as this homophobic bunch is concerned, it is better for the U.S. to be attacked than to allow gay Arabic speakers to serve... Firing Arab LinguistsThe Daily Dish elap('1180020780');Andrew Sullivan: The military should surely not be training Arab translators, only to fire them because they're gay. Three more have recently been shown the door . Just crazy.  Related ArticlesHouse Members Seek Hearings on Dismissed Gay Arab Linguists  Fox News Channel elap('1179970842');40 House members sign letter questioning whether Army's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy is serving the nation after the dismissal of 58 Arab linguists due to their sexual preference.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   Military Discharges Gay Arabic Linguists  The Associated Press elap('1179968160');Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic language experts because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable specialists go.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   Hearing sought over linguists' discharge LOLITA C. BALDOR The Associated Press elap('1179965880');Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic language experts because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable specialists go.BlogRunner &gt; Politics   Authors &gt; Lolita C. Baldor   Related BlogsPoliticos Push Pentagon Over "Don't Ask"  Queerty elap('1180024575');Approximately forty House Representatives are urging the Pentagon to reconsider its ban on gay Arabic linguists.Gay linguists worry Pentagon  Gay.com UK elap('1180009815');Lawmakers who say the U.S. military has kicked out 58 Arabic linguists because they were gay want the Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable language specialists go.If Israel can do it, why can't we??JACK CLUTH The People's Republic of Seabrook elap('1180008653');Military Fired 58 Arabic Linguists For Being Gay...BlogRunner &gt; Israel   More gay Arab linguists booted under DADTPAM Pam's House Blend elap('1180000800');The Army Times has a piece up on the latest nail in the coffin of Bush's military -- they are still booting out highly trained specialists that you'd think are critical to fighting Dear Leader's Global War on Terror -- Arabic linguists who happen to be...Authors &gt; Pam   Congress members seek hearing over discharged gay linguists  Democratic Underground elap('1179980490');Seizing on the latest discharge, involving three specialists, House members wrote the House ...BlogRunner &gt; Congress   The Way to Win Kick out the gays! 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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/58_gay_arab_linguists_ousted_from_military/comment-page-1/#comment-127883</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if he&#039;s dating other dudes, he&#039;s engaging in homosexual acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if he's dating other dudes, he's engaging in homosexual acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your update seems to be either factually wrong, or you&#039;re getting your information from somewhere else. &quot;Benjamin said he was caught improperly using the military&#039;s secret level computer system to send messages to his roommate, who was serving in Iraq. In those messages, he said, he may have referred to being gay or going on a date.&quot; In what way is this &quot;certainly&quot; &quot;engag[ing] in, attempt[ing] to engage in, or solicit[ing] another to engage in a homosexual act or actsâ€ť ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your update seems to be either factually wrong, or you're getting your information from somewhere else. "Benjamin said he was caught improperly using the military's secret level computer system to send messages to his roommate, who was serving in Iraq. In those messages, he said, he may have referred to being gay or going on a date." In what way is this "certainly" "engag[ing] in, attempt[ing] to engage in, or solicit[ing] another to engage in a homosexual act or actsâ€ť ?</p>
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		<title>By: C.Wagener</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.Wagener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AllenS, I had the same reaction.  This seems like the exact same story I heard a month or two ago.  I recall Fred Barnes commenting that almost all of these folks were being trained and the actual number of trained linguists dismissed was in the single digits.

Regarding Clinton, my recollection was that he made a big deal about gays in the military almost immediately upon entering office and the general public&#039;s reaction was WTF?  My memory could certainly be wrong, he may have been set up, similar to Bush with the &quot;arsenic in drinking water&quot; nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AllenS, I had the same reaction.  This seems like the exact same story I heard a month or two ago.  I recall Fred Barnes commenting that almost all of these folks were being trained and the actual number of trained linguists dismissed was in the single digits.</p>
<p>Regarding Clinton, my recollection was that he made a big deal about gays in the military almost immediately upon entering office and the general public's reaction was WTF?  My memory could certainly be wrong, he may have been set up, similar to Bush with the "arsenic in drinking water" nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I was asked whether I was a closeted homosexual; the rationale is that it&#039;s potentially a blackmail issue.&lt;/em&gt;

Interesting.  And, yes, blackmail was always the rationale.  Of course, if one is open, then it&#039;s not an issue.  But, if one is openly homosexual, one is ineligible to join to begin with.  The classic Catch-22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I was asked whether I was a closeted homosexual; the rationale is that it's potentially a blackmail issue.</em></p>
<p>Interesting.  And, yes, blackmail was always the rationale.  Of course, if one is open, then it's not an issue.  But, if one is openly homosexual, one is ineligible to join to begin with.  The classic Catch-22.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a civilian who recently got a security clearance.  I was asked whether I was a closeted homosexual; the rationale is that it&#039;s potentially a blackmail issue.  I think being openly gay is as acceptable as straight for a civilian.

I&#039;ve been told that, understandably, the higher you go on the clearance ladder the deeper they delve into that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm a civilian who recently got a security clearance.  I was asked whether I was a closeted homosexual; the rationale is that it's potentially a blackmail issue.  I think being openly gay is as acceptable as straight for a civilian.</p>
<p>I've been told that, understandably, the higher you go on the clearance ladder the deeper they delve into that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Do these guys get their security clearances revoked for being discharged under &quot;Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

An excellent question.  In the old days, absolutely.  They would have had to lied to get their clearance, since there were an absurd number of questions about homosexuality (at least for the SCI I got in 1988).  

If the &quot;Don&#039;t Ask&quot; applies to security questionnaires, though, that&#039;s presumably no longer an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do these guys get their security clearances revoked for being discharged under "Don't Ask Don't Tell?"</em></p>
<p>An excellent question.  In the old days, absolutely.  They would have had to lied to get their clearance, since there were an absurd number of questions about homosexuality (at least for the SCI I got in 1988).  </p>
<p>If the "Don't Ask" applies to security questionnaires, though, that's presumably no longer an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fighting the Real Menace...&lt;/strong&gt;

FIGHTING THE REAL MENACE....The military is still busily firing gay Arabic linguists in its continuing quest to keep America safer. I would personally prefer it if they spent more time keeping us safer from Arabic-speaking jihadists who are trying to.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fighting the Real Menace...</strong></p>
<p>FIGHTING THE REAL MENACE....The military is still busily firing gay Arabic linguists in its continuing quest to keep America safer. I would personally prefer it if they spent more time keeping us safer from Arabic-speaking jihadists who are trying to.....</p>
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		<title>By: Eric J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do these guys get their security clearances revoked for being discharged under &quot;Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell?&quot;

&#039;Cause if not, someone ought to set up a private intelligence consulting firm, hire these guys at twice their military salary, offer domestic partner benefits, and start working with the DoD, CIA, NSF and FBI as an outsourced Arabic document translation firm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these guys get their security clearances revoked for being discharged under "Don't Ask Don't Tell?"</p>
<p>'Cause if not, someone ought to set up a private intelligence consulting firm, hire these guys at twice their military salary, offer domestic partner benefits, and start working with the DoD, CIA, NSF and FBI as an outsourced Arabic document translation firm.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sokdiers are not office workers, but rather deployable military assets.&lt;/em&gt;

One can be both. A substantial number of deployed soldiers work in what amounts to an office setting -- sitting behind a laptop in an air conditioned GP Large or command center vehicle.  That doesn&#039;t make them less soldierly but it changes the nature of their experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sokdiers are not office workers, but rather deployable military assets.</em></p>
<p>One can be both. A substantial number of deployed soldiers work in what amounts to an office setting -- sitting behind a laptop in an air conditioned GP Large or command center vehicle.  That doesn't make them less soldierly but it changes the nature of their experience.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Clinton acquiesced to the generals who insisted upon it as a compromise solution. . . . I were asked to assign the blame for this awful policy, I would indeed pick the military - not Clinton.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, Clinton was the Commander Guy.  But, yes, the brass were opposed to dropping the ban on gays completely.  Then again, the culture has moved a lot since 1992.  Today&#039;s generals were then captains and majors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Clinton acquiesced to the generals who insisted upon it as a compromise solution. . . . I were asked to assign the blame for this awful policy, I would indeed pick the military - not Clinton.</em></p>
<p>Well, Clinton was the Commander Guy.  But, yes, the brass were opposed to dropping the ban on gays completely.  Then again, the culture has moved a lot since 1992.  Today's generals were then captains and majors.</p>
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		<title>By: David L</title>
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		<dc:creator>David L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miitary &quot;office workers?&quot;  In what military?  Any job that can be done by an office worker, could be a civilian billet.  Sokdiers are not office workers, but rather deployable military assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miitary "office workers?"  In what military?  Any job that can be done by an office worker, could be a civilian billet.  Sokdiers are not office workers, but rather deployable military assets.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell&quot; was &quot;engineered by Clinton&quot; only in the sense that Clinton acquiesced to the generals who insisted upon it as a compromise solution.  That being the case, I agree with JJ that to lay the blame at the feet of those who endorse the policy now is wrong, but if I were asked to assign the blame for this awful policy, I would indeed pick the military - not Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Don't ask don't tell" was "engineered by Clinton" only in the sense that Clinton acquiesced to the generals who insisted upon it as a compromise solution.  That being the case, I agree with JJ that to lay the blame at the feet of those who endorse the policy now is wrong, but if I were asked to assign the blame for this awful policy, I would indeed pick the military - not Clinton.</p>
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