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	<title>Comments on: 60 Minutes Bush National Guard Docs Forged?</title>
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		<title>By: Mbaehr</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23614</link>
		<dc:creator>Mbaehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Rather keeps saying he &quot;knows the documents to be authentic&quot;  Well Dan, it is not what you know, it is what you can prove.  Who do you think you are, Walter Cronkite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Rather keeps saying he "knows the documents to be authentic"  Well Dan, it is not what you know, it is what you can prove.  Who do you think you are, Walter Cronkite?</p>
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		<title>By: Authenticator</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23613</link>
		<dc:creator>Authenticator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s likely the DNC was involved as well as the Kerry campaign.  But it&#039;s too early to excuse the Clinton people.  Kerry&#039;s campaign has had liason with several former Clinton people for several months.  You might call the Kerry campaign &quot;well infiltrated.&quot;  Plenty of time for a mischief maker, a traitor if you will, to slip in the poison pill.

These documents are clearly forgeries.  The list of mistakes made by the forgers is too long for this comment box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's likely the DNC was involved as well as the Kerry campaign.  But it's too early to excuse the Clinton people.  Kerry's campaign has had liason with several former Clinton people for several months.  You might call the Kerry campaign "well infiltrated."  Plenty of time for a mischief maker, a traitor if you will, to slip in the poison pill.</p>
<p>These documents are clearly forgeries.  The list of mistakes made by the forgers is too long for this comment box.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23611</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read the Boston globe article its pretty much been put to rest they are real documents.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-02.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the Boston globe article its pretty much been put to rest they are real documents.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-02.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-02.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: attila</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23587</link>
		<dc:creator>attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS, aka: Mainstream Media (MM).  To the unfortunate innocents among us who blindly accept as &#039;fact&#039; every fishwrap item MM dishes out daily, whatcha see is whatcha deserve.  Some posts herein were well stated and sensible, but nary a mention of the issue of old fashioned truth re the documents ... 

attila</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS, aka: Mainstream Media (MM).  To the unfortunate innocents among us who blindly accept as 'fact' every fishwrap item MM dishes out daily, whatcha see is whatcha deserve.  Some posts herein were well stated and sensible, but nary a mention of the issue of old fashioned truth re the documents ... </p>
<p>attila</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23575</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Yglesias has ceased being a serious source, and is there merely as comedy relief. If we accept his story about the Selectric one must wonder what anyone under the rank of a two-star general would be doing wiht a typewriter that cost at that time more than the average car.

Add to this the report from the man&#039;s family he couldn&#039;t type at all, much less on a machine of such complexity.  

I understand he&#039;s trying to hold up his end, but the arguemts he attempts to mount are more transparentthan the forged documents themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Yglesias has ceased being a serious source, and is there merely as comedy relief. If we accept his story about the Selectric one must wonder what anyone under the rank of a two-star general would be doing wiht a typewriter that cost at that time more than the average car.</p>
<p>Add to this the report from the man's family he couldn't type at all, much less on a machine of such complexity.  </p>
<p>I understand he's trying to hold up his end, but the arguemts he attempts to mount are more transparentthan the forged documents themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigFire&#039;s speculation that the Clintonistas newly ensconced in Kerry&#039;s HQ were behind this doesn&#039;t work. As more of this story comes out, it becomes clear that CBS has had them for several weeks. It is starting to look as if they originally came from the DNC via the Kerry campaign, but well before the infusion of Clinton people a couple of weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigFire's speculation that the Clintonistas newly ensconced in Kerry's HQ were behind this doesn't work. As more of this story comes out, it becomes clear that CBS has had them for several weeks. It is starting to look as if they originally came from the DNC via the Kerry campaign, but well before the infusion of Clinton people a couple of weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23552</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason these stories are so compelling has nothing to do with candidatesâ actions 35 years ago, and frankly the candidates themselves.   

The real story is our fourth estate, the traditional media.  How much power do they wield, what biases are they propagating, are they trustworthy, and are they really serving the interests of &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; this nation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason these stories are so compelling has nothing to do with candidatesâ actions 35 years ago, and frankly the candidates themselves.   </p>
<p>The real story is our fourth estate, the traditional media.  How much power do they wield, what biases are they propagating, are they trustworthy, and are they really serving the interests of <b>all</b> this nation?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon World</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23551</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Reactions and responses&lt;/strong&gt;
Yesterday&#039;s bombing in Jakarta was the first clear attempt to attack specifically Australians rather than &quot;Westerners&quot; in general in Indonesia. Perhaps that explains why much of the blogosphere is dominated with another story: the likely forging of ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reactions and responses</strong><br />
Yesterday's bombing in Jakarta was the first clear attempt to attack specifically Australians rather than "Westerners" in general in Indonesia. Perhaps that explains why much of the blogosphere is dominated with another story: the likely forging of ...</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23550</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey James...

Maybe it &lt;i&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; matter... But clearly it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey James...</p>
<p>Maybe it <i>shouldn't</i> matter... But clearly it does.</p>
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		<title>By: BigFire</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23548</link>
		<dc:creator>BigFire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democratic Underground&#039;s train of thought:  This is a forgery made by Karl Rove to discredit both CBS and the Kerry Campaign.

Hillary Clinton Conspiracy thought: Kerry campaign is eseentially run by Clinton people after the diasterious month of August.  They&#039;d be in position to submit this blatant falsehood via a lowerlevel Kerry campaign worker to CBS knowing full well that CBS will implicitly trust Kerry campaign.  This will sink Kerry campaign, while doing minimun damage to Hillary&#039;s chance (afterall, if they managed to trace back, it&#039;ll be to Kerry campaign).  This clears Hillary &#039;08 run for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democratic Underground's train of thought:  This is a forgery made by Karl Rove to discredit both CBS and the Kerry Campaign.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton Conspiracy thought: Kerry campaign is eseentially run by Clinton people after the diasterious month of August.  They'd be in position to submit this blatant falsehood via a lowerlevel Kerry campaign worker to CBS knowing full well that CBS will implicitly trust Kerry campaign.  This will sink Kerry campaign, while doing minimun damage to Hillary's chance (afterall, if they managed to trace back, it'll be to Kerry campaign).  This clears Hillary '08 run for President.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Moment</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23547</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Moment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If you think the documents are false, you&#039;re an...&lt;/strong&gt;
Bill@INDC appears to be at the center of deconstructing a CBS/60 Minutes hatched job on Bush&#8217;s Military records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If you think the documents are false, you're an...</strong><br />
Bill@INDC appears to be at the center of deconstructing a CBS/60 Minutes hatched job on Bush&#8217;s Military records.</p>
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		<title>By: In Search of Utopia</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23546</link>
		<dc:creator>In Search of Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Forgery Accusations...&lt;/strong&gt;
So right now the Conservative side of the Blogsphere is focused on discrediting the documents shown on 60 minutes, that seemed to prove Bush has not been honest about his TANG record. The funny thing is that people like Paul...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Forgery Accusations...</strong><br />
So right now the Conservative side of the Blogsphere is focused on discrediting the documents shown on 60 minutes, that seemed to prove Bush has not been honest about his TANG record. The funny thing is that people like Paul...</p>
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		<title>By: jd watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Joyner:
The significance of this is that someone sympathetic to, and possibly associated with, the Democratic Party attempted to influence a Federal Election using forgeries, and that a major network, CBS, was negligent in vetting the story and therefore complicit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Joyner:<br />
The significance of this is that someone sympathetic to, and possibly associated with, the Democratic Party attempted to influence a Federal Election using forgeries, and that a major network, CBS, was negligent in vetting the story and therefore complicit.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23541</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Forgery Question&lt;/strong&gt;
I spent a lot of the day in meetings (the reward for being Faculty Council President) and trying to get caught up on a bunch of minor tasks that  have been piling up.  As a result while I have been aware of the flap over the 60 Minutes Bush National Gu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Forgery Question</strong><br />
I spent a lot of the day in meetings (the reward for being Faculty Council President) and trying to get caught up on a bunch of minor tasks that  have been piling up.  As a result while I have been aware of the flap over the 60 Minutes Bush National Gu...</p>
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		<title>By: Rooftop Report</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/60_minutes_bush_national_guard_docs_forged/comment-page-1/#comment-23540</link>
		<dc:creator>Rooftop Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Trackback Record&lt;/strong&gt;
Can somebody call Guinness? 300 trackbacks as of 9:10? I can&#039;t say I agree on all points, but Dr. Joyner I agree in principal. WHO CARES?!?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Trackback Record</strong><br />
Can somebody call Guinness? 300 trackbacks as of 9:10? I can't say I agree on all points, but Dr. Joyner I agree in principal. WHO CARES?!?...</p>
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