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	<title>Comments on: 9/11 Commission Rejected Able Danger Report</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jondolar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jondolar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following this every day since it broke last week. My first exposure to it, interestingly enough, was on CNN where Wolfe Blitzer interviewed Rep. Weldon. My first reaction was, either this is a vendetta in some form, or bigger than Watergate (and that was merely a burglary of the DNC office by some lackies resulting in a president&#039;s resignation!).

Now, having heard Lt. Col. Shaffer&#039;s comments on radio interviews from three different shows, it&#039;s obvious to me that this AD group was trying to do their job, had reason to suspect Atta&#039;s cell should be looked into because of the Alquaida connection, and got stonewalled because of administrative policy which claimed to be implementing the inability to share military data with the FBI to protect civil rights. Oh, sure! This merely fostered an opportunity for foreigners to opperate without fear of being looked at closer. While that may not be directly enabling the Jihad of 9/11, it certainly appears to be indirectly doing that.

Of course, what most who are sharing their viewpoints about this whole issue aren&#039;t including with the larger picture regarding the terrorist threat is that Clinton testified before the Grand Jury that he&#039;d been offered OBL by the Sudaneese govt. a couple of times, but didn&#039;t believe he had any legal premise to do so. If that isn&#039;t a perfect illustration of failure to uphold his oath of office, which includes national security, I don&#039;t know what is.

Liberals who find themselves in positions within an administration are placed there because they&#039;re smart, smart enough to know they need to cover their &quot;tracks&quot; should any fall-out arise later on. Clinton is notorious for this; the rest follow by example.

Of course, the Republican politician is just as skilled as the Democrat ones are; it&#039;s just the game of being a politician who, first and foremost, looks out for their political career, while perpetuating the image that they have our well being in mind while making sure they leave office in a position to benefit themselves. Yes, as far as I&#039;m concerned, there are no more elected officials at the federal level who, through their political career are there strictly for the good of the country over their own well being.

Cynical? Maybe, naive&#039; NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been following this every day since it broke last week. My first exposure to it, interestingly enough, was on CNN where Wolfe Blitzer interviewed Rep. Weldon. My first reaction was, either this is a vendetta in some form, or bigger than Watergate (and that was merely a burglary of the DNC office by some lackies resulting in a president's resignation!).</p>
<p>Now, having heard Lt. Col. Shaffer's comments on radio interviews from three different shows, it's obvious to me that this AD group was trying to do their job, had reason to suspect Atta's cell should be looked into because of the Alquaida connection, and got stonewalled because of administrative policy which claimed to be implementing the inability to share military data with the FBI to protect civil rights. Oh, sure! This merely fostered an opportunity for foreigners to opperate without fear of being looked at closer. While that may not be directly enabling the Jihad of 9/11, it certainly appears to be indirectly doing that.</p>
<p>Of course, what most who are sharing their viewpoints about this whole issue aren't including with the larger picture regarding the terrorist threat is that Clinton testified before the Grand Jury that he'd been offered OBL by the Sudaneese govt. a couple of times, but didn't believe he had any legal premise to do so. If that isn't a perfect illustration of failure to uphold his oath of office, which includes national security, I don't know what is.</p>
<p>Liberals who find themselves in positions within an administration are placed there because they're smart, smart enough to know they need to cover their "tracks" should any fall-out arise later on. Clinton is notorious for this; the rest follow by example.</p>
<p>Of course, the Republican politician is just as skilled as the Democrat ones are; it's just the game of being a politician who, first and foremost, looks out for their political career, while perpetuating the image that they have our well being in mind while making sure they leave office in a position to benefit themselves. Yes, as far as I'm concerned, there are no more elected officials at the federal level who, through their political career are there strictly for the good of the country over their own well being.</p>
<p>Cynical? Maybe, naive' NO!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Dave, do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your last post? Surely not.(giggle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Dave, do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your last post? Surely not.(giggle)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no conspiracy here.  Jamie Gorelick was the lawyer who created the Chinese wall between military intel and the FBI.  Jamie Gorelick was on the 9-11 commission.  There&#039;s no connection between the facts that she made the critical error (in the name of civil rights) which allowed Atta to slip past the FBI and that she had a significant part in creating the report which omitted any reference to Able Danger.  

No.  This is purely coincidence.  One&#039;s got nothing to do with the other.  And neither has anything to do with that guy over there who stuffed national security documents in his pants by accident.  Our government officials have the highest integrity.  They are unwilling to criticize a sitting President in wartime.  They don&#039;t put their own interests in front of the interests of the American people.  They live lives exclusively devoted to serving the public.  There just is not any motivation to do anything dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's no conspiracy here.  Jamie Gorelick was the lawyer who created the Chinese wall between military intel and the FBI.  Jamie Gorelick was on the 9-11 commission.  There's no connection between the facts that she made the critical error (in the name of civil rights) which allowed Atta to slip past the FBI and that she had a significant part in creating the report which omitted any reference to Able Danger.  </p>
<p>No.  This is purely coincidence.  One's got nothing to do with the other.  And neither has anything to do with that guy over there who stuffed national security documents in his pants by accident.  Our government officials have the highest integrity.  They are unwilling to criticize a sitting President in wartime.  They don't put their own interests in front of the interests of the American people.  They live lives exclusively devoted to serving the public.  There just is not any motivation to do anything dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sep. 11 Report: Riveting but Now Flawed&lt;/strong&gt;

One more thing about the Sep. 11 Commission report: my praise for it was for its depiction of how events...</description>
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<p>One more thing about the Sep. 11 Commission report: my praise for it was for its depiction of how events...</p>
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		<title>By: Lurking Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurking Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the basis for Zelikow or anyone else refusing to pass the original &quot;Able Danger&quot; warning to the FBI? 

It was the &quot;wall,&quot; created by Jamie Gorelick. 

Does this make her the 20th hijacker? Don&#039;t be silly, Anderson, and no one is making that claim. 

But it does mean that policies were put in place during the previous administration which hampered the ability of the US Government to counter the threat. 

What does this do to the argument that the Clinton administration had &quot;done everything it could&quot; to fight terrorism? 

Does this explain why Sandy Berger decided to steal classified documents and &lt;strong&gt;specifically destroy&lt;/strong&gt; some of them? 


And if the staff could conclude that &quot;Able Danger&quot; information was irrelevant to the investigation because it didn&#039;t fit preconceived notions, to the point that they didn&#039;t even forward it to the Commission itself, does this mean that the staff lied? 

After all, the Left has been remarkably glib with the word &quot;lied&quot; when describing how the Administration, by refusing to seek out and listen to contradictory evidence, had in effect &quot;lied.&quot; 

Goose, gander and all that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the basis for Zelikow or anyone else refusing to pass the original "Able Danger" warning to the FBI? </p>
<p>It was the "wall," created by Jamie Gorelick. </p>
<p>Does this make her the 20th hijacker? Don't be silly, Anderson, and no one is making that claim. </p>
<p>But it does mean that policies were put in place during the previous administration which hampered the ability of the US Government to counter the threat. </p>
<p>What does this do to the argument that the Clinton administration had "done everything it could" to fight terrorism? </p>
<p>Does this explain why Sandy Berger decided to steal classified documents and <strong>specifically destroy</strong> some of them? </p>
<p>And if the staff could conclude that "Able Danger" information was irrelevant to the investigation because it didn't fit preconceived notions, to the point that they didn't even forward it to the Commission itself, does this mean that the staff lied? </p>
<p>After all, the Left has been remarkably glib with the word "lied" when describing how the Administration, by refusing to seek out and listen to contradictory evidence, had in effect "lied." </p>
<p>Goose, gander and all that....</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point JJ but I&#039;ve also seen it mean &quot;We&#039;ll both pretend we&#039;re doing a good job&quot;. Or as often, &quot;You don&#039;t criticize me and I won&#039;t criticize you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point JJ but I've also seen it mean "We'll both pretend we're doing a good job". Or as often, "You don't criticize me and I won't criticize you."</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DL: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bipartisan doesnât mean objective and competent. . . . Bipartisan to me means, partisan as hell on both sides. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quite possibly.  But what that does is remove the tendency to hide things that might embarrass one side or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DL: </p>
<blockquote><p>Bipartisan doesnât mean objective and competent. . . . Bipartisan to me means, partisan as hell on both sides. </p></blockquote>
<p>Quite possibly.  But what that does is remove the tendency to hide things that might embarrass one side or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bipartisan doesn&#039;t mean objective and competent. These people showed the usually tendency that all public &quot; blue ribbon&quot; committees show. Play to their own audience - smug superiority -feigned righteousness - conflicts of interest (Gorelick.) Bipartisan to me means,  partisan as hell on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bipartisan doesn't mean objective and competent. These people showed the usually tendency that all public " blue ribbon" committees show. Play to their own audience - smug superiority -feigned righteousness - conflicts of interest (Gorelick.) Bipartisan to me means,  partisan as hell on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, Weldon&#039;s source said he told Zelikow directly.

Sorry for those of you who think Gorelick was the 20th hijacker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Weldon's source said he told Zelikow directly.</p>
<p>Sorry for those of you who think Gorelick was the 20th hijacker.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the investigation should probe further than the 9/11 commission, back to the White House in 2000, when the Clinton administration, did not allow the FBI access to the intell, because of Atta being legally in the US and fear of political fall out because of the Waco debacle.  Sandy,&quot;Burglar,&quot; should also be questioned again about the contents of the documents he, &quot;accidentally, &quot; took from the archives.  Lastly, the author of the memo which created the wall that prevented the sharing of intell, Jamie Gorelick should be questioned.  Her involvement should have never allowed her on the commission in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the investigation should probe further than the 9/11 commission, back to the White House in 2000, when the Clinton administration, did not allow the FBI access to the intell, because of Atta being legally in the US and fear of political fall out because of the Waco debacle.  Sandy,"Burglar," should also be questioned again about the contents of the documents he, "accidentally, " took from the archives.  Lastly, the author of the memo which created the wall that prevented the sharing of intell, Jamie Gorelick should be questioned.  Her involvement should have never allowed her on the commission in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 9/11 commission was just as I thought it would be;

ONE BIG WHITEWASH

The American taxpayer has been taken to the cleaners again, and what more could one expect from politicians</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 9/11 commission was just as I thought it would be;</p>
<p>ONE BIG WHITEWASH</p>
<p>The American taxpayer has been taken to the cleaners again, and what more could one expect from politicians</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my understanding of the interviews I&#039;ve heard with Weldon, he was told by two committee members that the members were not told about AD by committee staff. If that is the case, it&#039;s not a matter of the committee being at fault, but the committee staff failing to pass the info on to the committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my understanding of the interviews I've heard with Weldon, he was told by two committee members that the members were not told about AD by committee staff. If that is the case, it's not a matter of the committee being at fault, but the committee staff failing to pass the info on to the committee.</p>
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