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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6212</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the links n&#039; such.  This still doesn&#039;t seem to support the contention that was being presented.  Still smells an awful lot like propaganda to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the links n' such.  This still doesn't seem to support the contention that was being presented.  Still smells an awful lot like propaganda to me.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6213</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

The contention is that the 9th Circuit is a) liberal and b) often overturned.

That is is liberal is certainly no surprise.  That a liberal court would be overturned by a comparatively conservative Supreme Court isn&#039;t much of a surprise.

The money &#039;graph is: &lt;blockquote&gt;
Although the 9th Circuit&#039;s caseload comprised approximately 17% of the federal appellate cases terminated in the year ending March 31, 2002, its decisions accounted for close to half (43%) of all the federal appellate decisions reviewed by the Supreme Court this past term. &lt;/blockquote&gt; To the extent this reflects the general trend--and I understand it does--this is hardly a matter of propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>The contention is that the 9th Circuit is a) liberal and b) often overturned.</p>
<p>That is is liberal is certainly no surprise.  That a liberal court would be overturned by a comparatively conservative Supreme Court isn't much of a surprise.</p>
<p>The money 'graph is:<br />
<blockquote>
Although the 9th Circuit's caseload comprised approximately 17% of the federal appellate cases terminated in the year ending March 31, 2002, its decisions accounted for close to half (43%) of all the federal appellate decisions reviewed by the Supreme Court this past term. </p></blockquote>
<p> To the extent this reflects the general trend--and I understand it does--this is hardly a matter of propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6214</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half reviewed isn&#039;t half overturned though, right?  And if the cases are important and controversial, why wouldn&#039;t they be reviewed?  It&#039;s important law.  And just because they&#039;re reviewed doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re over turned.  in fact, &lt;i&gt;&quot;the 9th Circuit accounted for both 30 percent of the cases (24 of 80) and 30 percent of the reversals (18 of 59)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Sounds normal to me.

So I&#039;m still confused.  It seems to me that there&#039;s no there there.

The contention is the 9th circuit is the &quot;most over turned appellate court&quot;.  Clearly, this is only true if you ignore the  4th, 5th, 8th and 10th circuit, which were overturned 100% of the time.

I don&#039;t think the point being made on the right is the &quot;most reviewed&quot;.

Sorry for being so dim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half reviewed isn't half overturned though, right?  And if the cases are important and controversial, why wouldn't they be reviewed?  It's important law.  And just because they're reviewed doesn't mean they're over turned.  in fact, <i>"the 9th Circuit accounted for both 30 percent of the cases (24 of 80) and 30 percent of the reversals (18 of 59)"</i>  Sounds normal to me.</p>
<p>So I'm still confused.  It seems to me that there's no there there.</p>
<p>The contention is the 9th circuit is the "most over turned appellate court".  Clearly, this is only true if you ignore the  4th, 5th, 8th and 10th circuit, which were overturned 100% of the time.</p>
<p>I don't think the point being made on the right is the "most reviewed".</p>
<p>Sorry for being so dim.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6215</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

For the most part, the Supremes don&#039;t review a case unless they think they need to DO something with it.  Usually, that means overturn.  Sometimes, it means to reconcile it with what other circuits are doing.

- 17% of all cases at Circuit level
- 43% of all cases reviewed by Supremes
- 45% of all reversals by Supremes

And there&#039;s no evidence that the cases the 9th hears are more important than those elsewhere.  Indeed, the DC Circuit likely holds that distinction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>For the most part, the Supremes don't review a case unless they think they need to DO something with it.  Usually, that means overturn.  Sometimes, it means to reconcile it with what other circuits are doing.</p>
<p>- 17% of all cases at Circuit level<br />
- 43% of all cases reviewed by Supremes<br />
- 45% of all reversals by Supremes</p>
<p>And there's no evidence that the cases the 9th hears are more important than those elsewhere.  Indeed, the DC Circuit likely holds that distinction.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, thanks.  This is more clear now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thanks.  This is more clear now.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9th_circuit/comment-page-1/#comment-6217</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No prob.

And, to re-emphasize, the argument seems to be twofold as to why this is:

1. The 9th is simply more liberal/activist than the other courts

2. The sheer size of the Circuit and incredibly large number of judges and thus 3-panel combo possibilities makes for a ton of odd rulings.  The circuit is way too damn big.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No prob.</p>
<p>And, to re-emphasize, the argument seems to be twofold as to why this is:</p>
<p>1. The 9th is simply more liberal/activist than the other courts</p>
<p>2. The sheer size of the Circuit and incredibly large number of judges and thus 3-panel combo possibilities makes for a ton of odd rulings.  The circuit is way too damn big.</p>
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