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		<title>By: sepideh</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/_irans_desert_vampire_executed/comment-page-1/#comment-40022</link>
		<dc:creator>sepideh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is to all the ppl that think mohammad bijeh was not to be killed the way he was....
you do not know how those families felt you dont know what they went through you dont know the pain you dont know what is loosing the one you love the most your baby your child?
if i was the justice i would have given him to the family of those who lost there loved ones and let them deal with him and enjoy every minute of his pain and suffering becaust although the government showed off in front of so many ppl as in crowd it was a lesson to all others out there that if we catch you the same will happen to you.....
so please i advise all of you dont comment any more as these parents did see him die but they have to live with the loss of there loved ones for ever......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is to all the ppl that think mohammad bijeh was not to be killed the way he was....<br />
you do not know how those families felt you dont know what they went through you dont know the pain you dont know what is loosing the one you love the most your baby your child?<br />
if i was the justice i would have given him to the family of those who lost there loved ones and let them deal with him and enjoy every minute of his pain and suffering becaust although the government showed off in front of so many ppl as in crowd it was a lesson to all others out there that if we catch you the same will happen to you.....<br />
so please i advise all of you dont comment any more as these parents did see him die but they have to live with the loss of there loved ones for ever......</p>
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		<title>By: Brass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could be wrong but wasn&#039;t flogging still a popular form of punishment back when the framers wrote the Constitution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could be wrong but wasn't flogging still a popular form of punishment back when the framers wrote the Constitution?</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have taken the families out for ice cream afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have taken the families out for ice cream afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: protein wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>protein wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What makes Justice Just?&lt;/strong&gt;
Citing this post from Eugene Volokh, Talkleft&apos;s Jeralyn Merritt, guest posting at Vodkapundit, claims Professor Volokh &quot;stepped in it big time Thursday with an endorsement of Iranian torture.&quot; The post in question comments on the executi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What makes Justice Just?</strong><br />
Citing this post from Eugene Volokh, Talkleft&apos;s Jeralyn Merritt, guest posting at Vodkapundit, claims Professor Volokh &quot;stepped in it big time Thursday with an endorsement of Iranian torture.&quot; The post in question comments on the executi...</p>
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		<title>By: KianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sahand I fully understand your point and Mr. Nabavi&#039;s here and we certainly need a cultural revolution as you mentioned it. But we can&#039;t wait 300 years until the ideal change happens in one night and we have a responsibility to do our duty and help our country. 

I also like to see a copy of a public flogging and hanging with crane 30 years before in Iran. 

I think even Mr. Nabavi will agree that until this regime is on power and we don&#039;t have a secular government, we can&#039;t expect the &#039;cultural revolution&#039; you mentioned. 

I like to reserve my right to inform the world this is not what ideal Iranian culture is and Iranian people also deserve a fair and equal life, as other nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sahand I fully understand your point and Mr. Nabavi's here and we certainly need a cultural revolution as you mentioned it. But we can't wait 300 years until the ideal change happens in one night and we have a responsibility to do our duty and help our country. </p>
<p>I also like to see a copy of a public flogging and hanging with crane 30 years before in Iran. </p>
<p>I think even Mr. Nabavi will agree that until this regime is on power and we don't have a secular government, we can't expect the 'cultural revolution' you mentioned. </p>
<p>I like to reserve my right to inform the world this is not what ideal Iranian culture is and Iranian people also deserve a fair and equal life, as other nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s not a good idea to discuss these &quot;out of topics&quot; in here, just as my last post on this issue:

Yes, we had the same things 30 years ago and I can provide you newspapers and magazines of those times!

BTW, I&#039;m not going to discuss my own idea here, but I believe these punishments are the idea of majority of people in Iran. Retribution is something in our culture, and most of us have grown up with. Iran needs a cultural revolution not a political one! Please have a look at this http://news.gooya.com/nabavi/archives/024259.php which I reckon clarifies the current situation of Iran. Islamic regime is just ONE of many reasons of the fall of Persian heritage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it's not a good idea to discuss these "out of topics" in here, just as my last post on this issue:</p>
<p>Yes, we had the same things 30 years ago and I can provide you newspapers and magazines of those times!</p>
<p>BTW, I'm not going to discuss my own idea here, but I believe these punishments are the idea of majority of people in Iran. Retribution is something in our culture, and most of us have grown up with. Iran needs a cultural revolution not a political one! Please have a look at this <a href="http://news.gooya.com/nabavi/archives/024259.php" rel="nofollow">http://news.gooya.com/nabavi/archives/024259.php</a> which I reckon clarifies the current situation of Iran. Islamic regime is just ONE of many reasons of the fall of Persian heritage!</p>
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		<title>By: KianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sahand I don&#039;t know how old you are but it seems this is all ok for you, while it&#039;s not for me. I don&#039;t think we should punish a serial killer as savages because it&#039;s 2005 and we should grow up.

And 30 years before we didn&#039;t have such a barbaric act on the streets so no my friend, I don&#039;t have radical views, face the facts: this is wrong and there is no sympathy for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sahand I don't know how old you are but it seems this is all ok for you, while it's not for me. I don't think we should punish a serial killer as savages because it's 2005 and we should grow up.</p>
<p>And 30 years before we didn't have such a barbaric act on the streets so no my friend, I don't have radical views, face the facts: this is wrong and there is no sympathy for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also in reply to Ms. Kian B.&#039;s comment which I saw right now, I should add:

I am not muslim, nor deffender of the current regime in Iran, but I think you might not be familiar with the situations in Iran. These kinds of punishments, again, good or bad, are something which people in Iran prefer themselves, regardless of this regime or any other regime! That&#039;s coming from Iranian culture (as I mentioned in my previous post) not Iranian government or such a thing.

Please do not mix up everything, or you are going the same wrong way as current Iranian rulers (as they know the US the root of every problem in Iran!!)

At the end, I don&#039;t think even one of our foreign friends had such a radical view as you&#039;ve got - In Persian we say: Kase daghtar az ash ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also in reply to Ms. Kian B.'s comment which I saw right now, I should add:</p>
<p>I am not muslim, nor deffender of the current regime in Iran, but I think you might not be familiar with the situations in Iran. These kinds of punishments, again, good or bad, are something which people in Iran prefer themselves, regardless of this regime or any other regime! That's coming from Iranian culture (as I mentioned in my previous post) not Iranian government or such a thing.</p>
<p>Please do not mix up everything, or you are going the same wrong way as current Iranian rulers (as they know the US the root of every problem in Iran!!)</p>
<p>At the end, I don't think even one of our foreign friends had such a radical view as you've got - In Persian we say: Kase daghtar az ash ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sahand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an Iranian living in the UK now; However I&#039;ve lived in Iran for long years since my childhood. I think there are two reasons for this:

Firstly, there are different punishments in every society for different crimes. Murdering is ended up to death in the Iranian law. Sexual abuse ends up to flogs, On the other hand. So if someone rapes several people and kills them, he would be punished by flogs and also death. The sentence would be such a thing: 100 flogs for sexually abusing xx persons, and xx times death for murdering xx persons. Obviously that doesn&#039;t mean they will hang him xx times! But flog is executed before they hang him up.

Secondly, in Iranian community (good or bad - and also I think for many other societies) flogging or any other means of persecuting the killer is something which would at least calm down the murdered families. Don&#039;t forget they&#039;ve lost their child in an awesome way, and watching the killer persecution would heal their thoughts of passions of their little child in his very last minutes of life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Iranian living in the UK now; However I've lived in Iran for long years since my childhood. I think there are two reasons for this:</p>
<p>Firstly, there are different punishments in every society for different crimes. Murdering is ended up to death in the Iranian law. Sexual abuse ends up to flogs, On the other hand. So if someone rapes several people and kills them, he would be punished by flogs and also death. The sentence would be such a thing: 100 flogs for sexually abusing xx persons, and xx times death for murdering xx persons. Obviously that doesn't mean they will hang him xx times! But flog is executed before they hang him up.</p>
<p>Secondly, in Iranian community (good or bad - and also I think for many other societies) flogging or any other means of persecuting the killer is something which would at least calm down the murdered families. Don't forget they've lost their child in an awesome way, and watching the killer persecution would heal their thoughts of passions of their little child in his very last minutes of life!</p>
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		<title>By: KianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy was a &#039;serial killer&#039; , It means he was &#039;sick&#039;, he wasn&#039;t a normal person and judging him with normal standards is wrong.

This person was a victim of a ruthless regime who took every civil right he could have from the begining of his life, then when this guy started to kill children the police just closed their eyes, despite many warnings by locals and even suspecting the exact guy after 2nd murder, police didn&#039;t listen. After it escelated to 20 murders (although families say this guy killed 36 and the regime is covering it up for less embarrassing), police acted. So they arrested the same guy that they could arrest after the 2nd murder.

That said, I am in no way finding excuses for his terrible crimes but he is just a part of the big picture in a society where millions and millions of people are victims of daily social,political and religious repressions by a group of religious maffia that have the power and money and are begining to threat the whole world with nuclear bomb.

The families of the victims are angry of the regime and the police for why they didn&#039;t act earlier and faster against this serial killer and regime blames it on this guy and hangs him and nothing will change and society stays the same. 

The regime is creating this monsters and until this regime is on power, we continue seeing this barbaric scenes and hanging people has no effect on people&#039;s desire for ending the tyranny and  having a free and democratic country. People have rights to civil liberties and government is a responsible body. Only then we can invest on education and medical care and fight these horrible cases from their roots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy was a 'serial killer' , It means he was 'sick', he wasn't a normal person and judging him with normal standards is wrong.</p>
<p>This person was a victim of a ruthless regime who took every civil right he could have from the begining of his life, then when this guy started to kill children the police just closed their eyes, despite many warnings by locals and even suspecting the exact guy after 2nd murder, police didn't listen. After it escelated to 20 murders (although families say this guy killed 36 and the regime is covering it up for less embarrassing), police acted. So they arrested the same guy that they could arrest after the 2nd murder.</p>
<p>That said, I am in no way finding excuses for his terrible crimes but he is just a part of the big picture in a society where millions and millions of people are victims of daily social,political and religious repressions by a group of religious maffia that have the power and money and are begining to threat the whole world with nuclear bomb.</p>
<p>The families of the victims are angry of the regime and the police for why they didn't act earlier and faster against this serial killer and regime blames it on this guy and hangs him and nothing will change and society stays the same. </p>
<p>The regime is creating this monsters and until this regime is on power, we continue seeing this barbaric scenes and hanging people has no effect on people's desire for ending the tyranny and  having a free and democratic country. People have rights to civil liberties and government is a responsible body. Only then we can invest on education and medical care and fight these horrible cases from their roots.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, hanging is still a punishment that can be handed down under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

I think we made a big mistake ruling that hanging is &quot;cruel and unusual punishment&quot;.  I think a couple of public hangings would have a significant deterrent effect in this nation, especially if those hung were &quot;activist&quot; judges like that dork in San Francisco, or Judge Kennedy after his &quot;living Constitution&quot; decision about the death penalty for 18-year-olds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, hanging is still a punishment that can be handed down under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.</p>
<p>I think we made a big mistake ruling that hanging is "cruel and unusual punishment".  I think a couple of public hangings would have a significant deterrent effect in this nation, especially if those hung were "activist" judges like that dork in San Francisco, or Judge Kennedy after his "living Constitution" decision about the death penalty for 18-year-olds.</p>
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		<title>By: The Jawa Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Jawa Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iran Hangs Man in Public (Images)&lt;/strong&gt;
Below are images of you&#039;re mullahs at work. I don&#039;t really have a problem with the death penalty in the abstract. The man was convicted of multiple counts of rape and murder. But the mad mullahs also have a tendency...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iran Hangs Man in Public (Images)</strong><br />
Below are images of you're mullahs at work. I don't really have a problem with the death penalty in the abstract. The man was convicted of multiple counts of rape and murder. But the mad mullahs also have a tendency...</p>
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		<title>By: Heretical Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heretical Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GAZING INTO THE ABYSS AGAIN ** UPDATED **&lt;/strong&gt;
Eugene Volokh has an interesting post going the subject of savagery in capital punishment.Something the Iranian Government and I Agree on:  I particularly like the involvement of the victims&#039; relatives in the killing of the monster; I think that if he...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GAZING INTO THE ABYSS AGAIN ** UPDATED **</strong><br />
Eugene Volokh has an interesting post going the subject of savagery in capital punishment.Something the Iranian Government and I Agree on:  I particularly like the involvement of the victims' relatives in the killing of the monster; I think that if he...</p>
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		<title>By: Confederate Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confederate Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get behind the eye-for-an-eye angle, for the simple reason it means forcing your executioner to acts as depraved as the criminal. Isn&#039;t that cruel and unusual?

That said, I would like to see the family members of victims have the option to carry out the official sentence. If a state used a firing squad for captial punishment, reserve the right for the family to pull the trigger. If the state uses gas, let a family member push the button.

It could help with closure for some, and is justice to others without needing constitutional laws amended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't get behind the eye-for-an-eye angle, for the simple reason it means forcing your executioner to acts as depraved as the criminal. Isn't that cruel and unusual?</p>
<p>That said, I would like to see the family members of victims have the option to carry out the official sentence. If a state used a firing squad for captial punishment, reserve the right for the family to pull the trigger. If the state uses gas, let a family member push the button.</p>
<p>It could help with closure for some, and is justice to others without needing constitutional laws amended.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My objection to the cruelty in punishment of this kind is not so much that it is inhumane as that it &lt;b&gt;lacks proper contempt.&lt;/b&gt; Dangerous animals need to be destroyed, but that doesnât mean we need to make such a show of it.&lt;/i&gt; (Emphasis mine)

Hear, hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My objection to the cruelty in punishment of this kind is not so much that it is inhumane as that it <b>lacks proper contempt.</b> Dangerous animals need to be destroyed, but that doesnât mean we need to make such a show of it.</i> (Emphasis mine)</p>
<p>Hear, hear.</p>
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