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		<title>By: superyotagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/adl_wants_mel_gibson_charged_with_hate_crime/comment-page-1/#comment-92609</link>
		<dc:creator>superyotagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not racist and never have been. I do have orthodox Jewish family members. I do agree that what Mel Gibson said was wrong and hurtful, but I do not believe that he committed a hate crime. There was no physical abuse and technically no verbal abuse either. There is a thing called freedom of speech. If the government and these groups listened to the majority of the United States Population then I think 95% of Americans would be accused of hate crimes. This whole situation is ridiculous and people need to get on with their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not racist and never have been. I do have orthodox Jewish family members. I do agree that what Mel Gibson said was wrong and hurtful, but I do not believe that he committed a hate crime. There was no physical abuse and technically no verbal abuse either. There is a thing called freedom of speech. If the government and these groups listened to the majority of the United States Population then I think 95% of Americans would be accused of hate crimes. This whole situation is ridiculous and people need to get on with their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something weird with the comments section, just then, looks like.

Anyway, try doing a little research about the miriad of resolutions the UN has generated against Israel over the years. 

Oh, you need a list?

&lt;a&gt;Fine.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something weird with the comments section, just then, looks like.</p>
<p>Anyway, try doing a little research about the miriad of resolutions the UN has generated against Israel over the years. </p>
<p>Oh, you need a list?</p>
<p><a>Fine.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the jackbooted thugs of the UN seized Bithead at his keyboard.  Doubtless he&#039;s been sent to the detention center at Turtle Bay, to be tortured with 24/7 readings of the Geneva Conventions and the Declaration of Human Rights until he cracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the jackbooted thugs of the UN seized Bithead at his keyboard.  Doubtless he's been sent to the detention center at Turtle Bay, to be tortured with 24/7 readings of the Geneva Conventions and the Declaration of Human Rights until he cracks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &lt;strong&gt;UN&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <strong>UN</strong></p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Knuckleheads of the Day award...&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s winners are actor Mel Gibson and the US Jewish Anti-defamation League....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Knuckleheads of the Day award...</strong></p>
<p>Today's winners are actor Mel Gibson and the US Jewish Anti-defamation League....</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead must&#039;ve linked the wrong article, because &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21229614.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the existing link&lt;/a&gt; demonstrates only Annan&#039;s calling for an &quot;international stabilization force&quot; in south Lebanon.  

And only someone as crazy or hateful as Mel Gibson himself could construe that as being anywhere near par with &quot;the Jews being responsible for all the wars in the world.&quot;

Bithead, will you provide the correct link please?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead must've linked the wrong article, because <a href="http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21229614.shtml" rel="nofollow">the existing link</a> demonstrates only Annan's calling for an "international stabilization force" in south Lebanon.  </p>
<p>And only someone as crazy or hateful as Mel Gibson himself could construe that as being anywhere near par with "the Jews being responsible for all the wars in the world."</p>
<p>Bithead, will you provide the correct link please?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jpe; here one point where you and I agree. And, Randal, too... particularly so. I spent an awful lot of my life around bars of various sorts as a professional.  I&#039;ve been around countless drunks and that amount of time.  I know better than most that 90% of what they say can&#039;t be taken seriously and the remaining 10% might not be.  

And here&#039;s why I brought up the business with Kofi Annan, in another thread;

There is a major difference between what a drunk sprouts off, angry or not, and what a bureaucrat says and implements as policy.  That difference is conscious intent.  (Unless you want to argue that the UN and iit&#039;s staff are operating under the influence, at which point I can&#039;t help you)

However, mark this well;
The words that were spouted from the mouth of Mel Gibson the other night, are precisely what is implemented as policy by the United Nations, and it&#039;s leader Kofi Annan.. and one presumes they&#039;re sober and thereby are in full control of what they say, and of a full understanding of what they say.

So, which is more damaging?  Which is of the greater import?  Of course, conversely, which of the two stories do you suppose the mainstream media spends more time on?  

Mind you, this is not a defense of Mr. Gibson.  One happen to think we&#039;re either a lot of him for his past accomplishments.  And he will pay what pricey has to pay to make things right here... and in today&#039;s Hollywood, I&#039;ve no doubt that price will be high; There have been many in Hollywood who have wanted his butt in a sling for a long time.  He gave them that opportunity the other night.  when you get stupid, you pay the price.  It&#039;s that simple.  I have no problem with that on that level.  

But, there is something of a stench of hypocrisy going on here.  The very words that the Hollywood left will justifiably judge Mr. Gibson on in this case, they will ignore in someone who actually has the power to implement as policy... and does... and has as a matter of routine, for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpe; here one point where you and I agree. And, Randal, too... particularly so. I spent an awful lot of my life around bars of various sorts as a professional.  I've been around countless drunks and that amount of time.  I know better than most that 90% of what they say can't be taken seriously and the remaining 10% might not be.  </p>
<p>And here's why I brought up the business with Kofi Annan, in another thread;</p>
<p>There is a major difference between what a drunk sprouts off, angry or not, and what a bureaucrat says and implements as policy.  That difference is conscious intent.  (Unless you want to argue that the UN and iit's staff are operating under the influence, at which point I can't help you)</p>
<p>However, mark this well;<br />
The words that were spouted from the mouth of Mel Gibson the other night, are precisely what is implemented as policy by the United Nations, and it's leader Kofi Annan.. and one presumes they're sober and thereby are in full control of what they say, and of a full understanding of what they say.</p>
<p>So, which is more damaging?  Which is of the greater import?  Of course, conversely, which of the two stories do you suppose the mainstream media spends more time on?  </p>
<p>Mind you, this is not a defense of Mr. Gibson.  One happen to think we're either a lot of him for his past accomplishments.  And he will pay what pricey has to pay to make things right here... and in today's Hollywood, I've no doubt that price will be high; There have been many in Hollywood who have wanted his butt in a sling for a long time.  He gave them that opportunity the other night.  when you get stupid, you pay the price.  It's that simple.  I have no problem with that on that level.  </p>
<p>But, there is something of a stench of hypocrisy going on here.  The very words that the Hollywood left will justifiably judge Mr. Gibson on in this case, they will ignore in someone who actually has the power to implement as policy... and does... and has as a matter of routine, for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorni, we have that whole first amendment deal-y.  Screaming anything but &quot;fire&quot; pretty much falls into that little loophole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorni, we have that whole first amendment deal-y.  Screaming anything but "fire" pretty much falls into that little loophole.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it a hate crime when a Muslim screams &quot;death to all Christians&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is a violation of the Patriot Act to aid and assist terrorist groups.  People have been imprisoned for a lot less than what the scoundrel Gibson has done.

Through his anti-semitic remarks, the guy gives inspiration to the terrorists and should be considered an enemy of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it a hate crime when a Muslim screams "death to all Christians"?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is a violation of the Patriot Act to aid and assist terrorist groups.  People have been imprisoned for a lot less than what the scoundrel Gibson has done.</p>
<p>Through his anti-semitic remarks, the guy gives inspiration to the terrorists and should be considered an enemy of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can speak freely even when your drunk out of your mind. Is it a hate crime when a Muslim screams &quot;death to all Christians&quot;? Is it a hate crime when a Jew screams &quot;death to Islam&quot;? As a former EMS worker I can tell you I have seen belligerent foul-mouth drunks turn into the nicest apologetic people when they sober up. Alcohol is a powerful drug and good people can do and say awful things while under it&#039;s spell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can speak freely even when your drunk out of your mind. Is it a hate crime when a Muslim screams "death to all Christians"? Is it a hate crime when a Jew screams "death to Islam"? As a former EMS worker I can tell you I have seen belligerent foul-mouth drunks turn into the nicest apologetic people when they sober up. Alcohol is a powerful drug and good people can do and say awful things while under it's spell.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What exactly do Kofi Anan and a link to another tedious rant about liberals have to do with Mel Gibson? Just wondering.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would have thought that rather self evident.
The drunken rant of Gibson the other night would seem to be rather neatly embodied within the policices of the &#039;United Nations&quot;, and Kofi Annan. specifically, the comment regarding the Jews being responsible for all the wars in the world.  Certainly, that perception would seem to be what&#039;s driving the United Nations&#039; policies toward Israel, these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What exactly do Kofi Anan and a link to another tedious rant about liberals have to do with Mel Gibson? Just wondering.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I would have thought that rather self evident.<br />
The drunken rant of Gibson the other night would seem to be rather neatly embodied within the policices of the 'United Nations", and Kofi Annan. specifically, the comment regarding the Jews being responsible for all the wars in the world.  Certainly, that perception would seem to be what's driving the United Nations' policies toward Israel, these days.</p>
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		<title>By: mahesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mel Gibson made anti-semitic remarks while being arrested for drunk driving.

Now the ADL wants to see him charged with hate crimes. I have to admit, it would be kind of funny. ...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mel Gibson made anti-semitic remarks while being arrested for drunk driving.</p>
<p>Now the ADL wants to see him charged with hate crimes. I have to admit, it would be kind of funny. ...</strong></p>
<p>...</p>
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		<title>By: Gorni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But a hate crime? I&#039;m with the libertarians on this one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Normally I would be with you.  However, WE ARE AT WAR against the terrorists.  During a time of war, parroting the evildoers&#039; ideology can only help perpetuate terrorism.  Al Quaeda will undoubtedly be featuring Gibsons&#039; words in their next video communique, causing unrest and endangering our troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But a hate crime? I'm with the libertarians on this one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Normally I would be with you.  However, WE ARE AT WAR against the terrorists.  During a time of war, parroting the evildoers' ideology can only help perpetuate terrorism.  Al Quaeda will undoubtedly be featuring Gibsons' words in their next video communique, causing unrest and endangering our troops.</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yelling disparaging remarks about ethnic groups just isn&#039;t a crime, no matter how much some first amendment-loathing people would like it to be.  His speech was morally wrong but perfectly legal (well, except for the harassing the cops part).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yelling disparaging remarks about ethnic groups just isn't a crime, no matter how much some first amendment-loathing people would like it to be.  His speech was morally wrong but perfectly legal (well, except for the harassing the cops part).</p>
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		<title>By: Kent G. Budge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent G. Budge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; Hate-crimes like Gibsons ...&lt;/em&gt;

Whether Gibson committed a hate crime is what is in dispute here, Gorni.

I despise anti-Semitism as much as the next guy.  Gibson has gone down several notches in my estimation as a result of his remarks.  But a hate crime?  I&#039;m with the libertarians on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> Hate-crimes like Gibsons ...</em></p>
<p>Whether Gibson committed a hate crime is what is in dispute here, Gorni.</p>
<p>I despise anti-Semitism as much as the next guy.  Gibson has gone down several notches in my estimation as a result of his remarks.  But a hate crime?  I'm with the libertarians on this one.</p>
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