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	<title>Comments on: Air Force One Flyover Frightens New Yorkers</title>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Correct me if I&#039;m mistaken, but doesn&#039;t that describe any USAF plane?
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As a technical matter, yes. But there are two luxury planes specifically outfitted for regular presidential use and this was one of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One of the PBS shows did an inside look at a Presidential trip aboard airforce one.  I remember a room full of uniforms in planning sessions.

You almost make it sound James like ol&#039; Joe Biden  dusts off his pilot&#039;s license and throws a white scarf around his neck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't that describe any USAF plane?
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<p>As a technical matter, yes. But there are two luxury planes specifically outfitted for regular presidential use and this was one of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the PBS shows did an inside look at a Presidential trip aboard airforce one.  I remember a room full of uniforms in planning sessions.</p>
<p>You almost make it sound James like ol' Joe Biden  dusts off his pilot's license and throws a white scarf around his neck.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m with you here. They could have gotten much nicer images if they&#039;d just posted a &quot;photoshop this&quot; thread on Fark.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That was my first thought too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm with you here. They could have gotten much nicer images if they'd just posted a "photoshop this" thread on Fark.</p></blockquote>
<p>That was my first thought too..</p>
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		<title>By: The Photo-Op From Hell &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Photo-Op From Hell &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Louie!!  Where the fx is Air Force One?

I don&#039;t know, I thought you had it.  You don&#039;t have it??  

No, I don&#039;t got it.  Well, who who signed it out?

I dunno.  I mean, Obama&#039;s sayin&#039; they heard about this flyover thing when everybody else did.

What?

Yeah, they didn&#039;t no nuthin&#039; about it.  

Well, I didn&#039;t just sign it out to some gypsies com&#039;n through.  

Really?

No, they was legit.

So who was they?  I mean, no one in the Administration knows shixt about this. Obama, Press Secy, Napolito or whatever the b&#039;s name is.  No one says they knows nuthin&#039;.  Maybe some Calderey guy or sumthin&#039; picked it up??

Listen, Louie.  You an me gotta stick together on this thing, see?  Those suits are gonna pin this shixt on us......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Louie!!  Where the fx is Air Force One?</p>
<p>I don't know, I thought you had it.  You don't have it??  </p>
<p>No, I don't got it.  Well, who who signed it out?</p>
<p>I dunno.  I mean, Obama's sayin' they heard about this flyover thing when everybody else did.</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>Yeah, they didn't no nuthin' about it.  </p>
<p>Well, I didn't just sign it out to some gypsies com'n through.  </p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>No, they was legit.</p>
<p>So who was they?  I mean, no one in the Administration knows shixt about this. Obama, Press Secy, Napolito or whatever the b's name is.  No one says they knows nuthin'.  Maybe some Calderey guy or sumthin' picked it up??</p>
<p>Listen, Louie.  You an me gotta stick together on this thing, see?  Those suits are gonna pin this shixt on us......</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How much did we pay for this photo shoot? &lt;/em&gt;

And this would be my burning question.  Why in the world do you spend money on a photo op that is completely an totally uneccessary and pointless, when our economy is in the tank and our deficits are going lower?

It also speaks to the fact that those in the administration may have gotten beyond 9/11 and moved on, but the people of NYC haven&#039;t.  This was about as sensitive as an hour of Jerry Springer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How much did we pay for this photo shoot? </em></p>
<p>And this would be my burning question.  Why in the world do you spend money on a photo op that is completely an totally uneccessary and pointless, when our economy is in the tank and our deficits are going lower?</p>
<p>It also speaks to the fact that those in the administration may have gotten beyond 9/11 and moved on, but the people of NYC haven't.  This was about as sensitive as an hour of Jerry Springer.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Correct me if I&#039;m mistaken, but doesn&#039;t that describe any USAF plane?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As a technical matter, yes.  But there are two luxury planes specifically outfitted for regular  presidential use and this was one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't that describe any USAF plane?</p></blockquote>
<p>As a technical matter, yes.  But there are two luxury planes specifically outfitted for regular  presidential use and this was one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;An aircraft that would have been “Air Force One” except that President Obama wasn’t on board &lt;/blockquote&gt;Correct me if I&#039;m mistaken, but doesn&#039;t that describe &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; USAF plane?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And, look, haven&#039;t these people who wanted this photo-op ever heard of photoshop?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m with you here.  They could have gotten much nicer images if they&#039;d just posted a &quot;photoshop this&quot; thread on Fark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>An aircraft that would have been “Air Force One” except that President Obama wasn&rsquo;t on board </p></blockquote>
<p>Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't that describe <i>any</i> USAF plane?</p>
<blockquote><p>And, look, haven't these people who wanted this photo-op ever heard of photoshop?</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm with you here.  They could have gotten much nicer images if they'd just posted a "photoshop this" thread on Fark.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But breaking down sobbing is a decided overreaction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Or PTSD.

Consider how traumatizing 9/11 was for those of us hundreds of miles away and then consider what it must have been like for the people who were actually running for their lives instead of watching it on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But breaking down sobbing is a decided overreaction.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or PTSD.</p>
<p>Consider how traumatizing 9/11 was for those of us hundreds of miles away and then consider what it must have been like for the people who were actually running for their lives instead of watching it on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It becomes another example of empty attack, from a party without answers to our real problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Funny; if you substitute &quot;gesture&quot; for &quot;attack&quot;, that&#039;s what I was thinking about the photo op.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It becomes another example of empty attack, from a party without answers to our real problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny; if you substitute "gesture" for "attack", that's what I was thinking about the photo op.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much did we pay for this photo shoot? It&#039;s not like we&#039;re in a recession or have trillions in debt hanging around our necks. And what do we need to publicize? &quot;Hey look everyone, We&#039;re America!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much did we pay for this photo shoot? It's not like we're in a recession or have trillions in debt hanging around our necks. And what do we need to publicize? "Hey look everyone, We're America!"</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Obama angry over the AIG bonuses he knew were coming?  Funny how Obama gets angry when the very stupid things he does do not get perceived the way he would like.  No wonder he quit as a community organizer.  Bet money Obama does not take responsiblity for this.  I would have thought he would have more backbone, if only to hold up his somewhat oversized head and ears.  Not to mention his ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn't Obama angry over the AIG bonuses he knew were coming?  Funny how Obama gets angry when the very stupid things he does do not get perceived the way he would like.  No wonder he quit as a community organizer.  Bet money Obama does not take responsiblity for this.  I would have thought he would have more backbone, if only to hold up his somewhat oversized head and ears.  Not to mention his ego.</p>
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		<title>By: dms</title>
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		<dc:creator>dms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother is a survivor of tower 1 of the WTC.  It&#039;s hard to &quot;lighten up&quot; when you wake up from nightmares of buildings falling on yourself, your friends and your family.  Even after 7 years...

I wonder if we should tell vets with PTSD to &quot;lighten up&quot;? The Vietnam war was over 30+ years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother is a survivor of tower 1 of the WTC.  It's hard to "lighten up" when you wake up from nightmares of buildings falling on yourself, your friends and your family.  Even after 7 years...</p>
<p>I wonder if we should tell vets with PTSD to "lighten up"? The Vietnam war was over 30+ years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Bystander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had better be careful flying AF1 so near the Statue of Liberty - I see the New York Times has a political cartoon of Ms Liberty brandishing a torture lash of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had better be careful flying AF1 so near the Statue of Liberty - I see the New York Times has a political cartoon of Ms Liberty brandishing a torture lash of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: KVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t everyone know the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are just memories of &quot;days gone by&quot; and the fly-by photo-op should have been over the Rio Grande River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn't everyone know the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are just memories of "days gone by" and the fly-by photo-op should have been over the Rio Grande River.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewkfromaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrewkfromaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This strikes me as the worst idea ever.  No one wants to see images of Air Force One flying in close to NYC anyway!  

The jab about NYers needing to lighten up is uncalled for, on the other hand.  The trauma that these people experienced on 9/11 should not be underestimated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This strikes me as the worst idea ever.  No one wants to see images of Air Force One flying in close to NYC anyway!  </p>
<p>The jab about NYers needing to lighten up is uncalled for, on the other hand.  The trauma that these people experienced on 9/11 should not be underestimated.</p>
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