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	<title>Comments on: Anger at Bushes Over Schiavo</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth A. Patience</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/anger_at_bushes_over_schiavo/comment-page-1/#comment-40692</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth A. Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with calling all the protestors the lunatic fringe. I am a disability rights advocate who would have been there with Not Dead Yet and ADAPT members had I the financial means to fly down there. These freedom fighters fight for the rights of people with disabilities to live in the community rather than wasting away in an institution.

I believe in a persons right to choose how they live and die, but in this case we have no clear proof that Terri made this choice. I researched this topic very thoroughly for the past 6 years. There is enough doubt in all I have read on both sides of this issue to say we must err on the side of life. The other thing that scares me is that there are approximately 33,000 people in the same exact situation as Terri (according to CNN). Will they also decide to end these people&#039;s lives as well? Where exactly do we draw the line on who lives and who dies? What exactly is the definition of quality of life? 

Also I am living proof of the fact that sometimes we do come back from the brink of death. I as an infant came down with a rare disease known as whooping cough. Three regular physicians, two specialists and two hospitals all gave up on me. At 2 and 1/2 months old I had lost over 1/3 of my body weight. I also had stopped feeding for two weeks living on intraveneous fluids. I was so weak I could no longer cry. I would open my mouth to cry and nothing came out. The doctors told my parents there was no hope and they should start arrangements for a funeral. They could not diagnose me at the time as cases of whooping cough were so rare by then. My parents refused to let me die or give up faith and hope. They invited Elders of the Mormom church they belonged to to pray over me and annoint my head with oils. Amazingly the next morning a resident in training came up with the diagnosis. I am so thankful that my parents would not let me die. I was born a fighter apparently and shall always remain a fighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with calling all the protestors the lunatic fringe. I am a disability rights advocate who would have been there with Not Dead Yet and ADAPT members had I the financial means to fly down there. These freedom fighters fight for the rights of people with disabilities to live in the community rather than wasting away in an institution.</p>
<p>I believe in a persons right to choose how they live and die, but in this case we have no clear proof that Terri made this choice. I researched this topic very thoroughly for the past 6 years. There is enough doubt in all I have read on both sides of this issue to say we must err on the side of life. The other thing that scares me is that there are approximately 33,000 people in the same exact situation as Terri (according to CNN). Will they also decide to end these people's lives as well? Where exactly do we draw the line on who lives and who dies? What exactly is the definition of quality of life? </p>
<p>Also I am living proof of the fact that sometimes we do come back from the brink of death. I as an infant came down with a rare disease known as whooping cough. Three regular physicians, two specialists and two hospitals all gave up on me. At 2 and 1/2 months old I had lost over 1/3 of my body weight. I also had stopped feeding for two weeks living on intraveneous fluids. I was so weak I could no longer cry. I would open my mouth to cry and nothing came out. The doctors told my parents there was no hope and they should start arrangements for a funeral. They could not diagnose me at the time as cases of whooping cough were so rare by then. My parents refused to let me die or give up faith and hope. They invited Elders of the Mormom church they belonged to to pray over me and annoint my head with oils. Amazingly the next morning a resident in training came up with the diagnosis. I am so thankful that my parents would not let me die. I was born a fighter apparently and shall always remain a fighter.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan,

The polling on this has been extensive, conducted by reputable outlets (Gallup, ABC, Time Magazine), and rather unidirectional in its result.

Presidents and governors get more blame than faceless legislators. That&#039;s the nature of the beast.

That these were &quot;her wishes&quot; has been adjudicated as a matter of fact by the courts and withstood several years and 20-odd appelate reviews.  I&#039;ll therefore stick with it unless compelling evidence emerges to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan,</p>
<p>The polling on this has been extensive, conducted by reputable outlets (Gallup, ABC, Time Magazine), and rather unidirectional in its result.</p>
<p>Presidents and governors get more blame than faceless legislators. That's the nature of the beast.</p>
<p>That these were "her wishes" has been adjudicated as a matter of fact by the courts and withstood several years and 20-odd appelate reviews.  I'll therefore stick with it unless compelling evidence emerges to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;so I doubt these sentiments are particularly widespread even among the small minority of Americans who think Terri Schiavo should be kept alive despite her wishes and those of her husband.&lt;/em&gt;

The anger at Bush is displaced, certainly, but it&#039;s a bit of a stretch to say that &quot;a small minority&quot; think Schiavo should be kept alive.

Given the questionable polling that&#039;s been done on the issue, I&#039;d be hard-pressed to say that anyone&#039;s gotten a read on what most Americans think about it.

&lt;em&gt;Still, it serves the Bushes right for intervening in an affair outside the scope of their executive offices.&lt;/em&gt;

Last I checked, There were at least 300 other people who &quot;intervened&quot; outside their legislative offices before Bush signed the bill. And Jeb Bush has refused to go beyond asking the state welfare agency to seek custody. All within the scope of their executive offices, I&#039;d think.

And finally, stop with this &quot;her wishes&quot; line. There is no evidence save hearsay as to what her wishes were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>so I doubt these sentiments are particularly widespread even among the small minority of Americans who think Terri Schiavo should be kept alive despite her wishes and those of her husband.</em></p>
<p>The anger at Bush is displaced, certainly, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that "a small minority" think Schiavo should be kept alive.</p>
<p>Given the questionable polling that's been done on the issue, I'd be hard-pressed to say that anyone's gotten a read on what most Americans think about it.</p>
<p><em>Still, it serves the Bushes right for intervening in an affair outside the scope of their executive offices.</em></p>
<p>Last I checked, There were at least 300 other people who "intervened" outside their legislative offices before Bush signed the bill. And Jeb Bush has refused to go beyond asking the state welfare agency to seek custody. All within the scope of their executive offices, I'd think.</p>
<p>And finally, stop with this "her wishes" line. There is no evidence save hearsay as to what her wishes were.</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is, these are core Roy Moore supporters. If this anti-Bush sentiment picks up momentum, ol&#039; Roy may bag his plan to take Montgomery and start looking towards 2008. It&#039;d be George Wallace in &#039;68 all over again, only this time it&#039;d be the Dems benefiting and GOP reeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is, these are core Roy Moore supporters. If this anti-Bush sentiment picks up momentum, ol' Roy may bag his plan to take Montgomery and start looking towards 2008. It'd be George Wallace in '68 all over again, only this time it'd be the Dems benefiting and GOP reeling.</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;George Bush&#039;s And Jeb Bush&#039;s Political Problem&lt;/strong&gt;
Here&#039;s a development you might not have expected to see: the folks for whom George Bush and Jeb Bush put their political necks on the line now want to chop them off:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>George Bush's And Jeb Bush's Political Problem</strong><br />
Here's a development you might not have expected to see: the folks for whom George Bush and Jeb Bush put their political necks on the line now want to chop them off:</p>
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		<title>By: Pandagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;My Right To Slack&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.&quot; - Martin Luther King, Jr. &quot;From a practical standpoint, in all but the smallest towns, this would be a non-issue. If the pharmacist at XYZ Drugs won&#039;t dispense birth control pills, all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>My Right To Slack</strong><br />
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King, Jr. "From a practical standpoint, in all but the smallest towns, this would be a non-issue. If the pharmacist at XYZ Drugs won't dispense birth control pills, all...</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/anger_at_bushes_over_schiavo/comment-page-1/#comment-40590</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope these people represent the &quot;lunatic fringe.&quot;  They&#039;re already representing the outer fringe of common sense.  Asking a Bush to &quot;be a man,&quot; and to, &quot;put politics aside?&quot;  What are they thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's hope these people represent the "lunatic fringe."  They're already representing the outer fringe of common sense.  Asking a Bush to "be a man," and to, "put politics aside?"  What are they thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Titus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert Titus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is well within the scope of Governor Bush&#039;s authority to act to save Terri. http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_4.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is well within the scope of Governor Bush's authority to act to save Terri. <a href="http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_4.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shot In The Dark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shot In The Dark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How Many Times...&lt;/strong&gt;
...has the left declared, in a welter of news stories, that a GOP stand on a social issue was going to splinter the party and kill us at the polls? Abortion. Gay Marriage. Social Security. Tax Cuts. Schiavo. And on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How Many Times...</strong><br />
...has the left declared, in a welter of news stories, that a GOP stand on a social issue was going to splinter the party and kill us at the polls? Abortion. Gay Marriage. Social Security. Tax Cuts. Schiavo. And on...</p>
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