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		<title>By: PG</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/another_nifong/comment-page-1/#comment-139082</link>
		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video proves the statutory rape charge, because it depicts someone who was under the age of consent performing a sexual act on another person. However, the reason the prosecutor is distributing the video is to stir up animus toward Wilson for the charge that failed, i.e. the one of sexual assault on the 17 year old. Because all of the participants were minors, all of the tape constitutes child pornography. Had Wilson been in possession of the tape and charged with child porn possession (as some of the child participants in child porn have been charged), the Walsh Act would require the prosecution to confiscate the tape and not allow the defense to have a copy, not even to have an expert witness assess it. Apparently a Georgia prosecutor could distribute the tape to everyone *except* the defense, however.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogdenovo.org/archives/001747.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Walsh Act really does get applied.&lt;/a&gt; I was sitting in a Southern District of New York courtroom recently and watched the lawyer for a defendant who has been sitting in jail for seven months point out that he still has not seen the evidence against his client -- i.e., the child porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video proves the statutory rape charge, because it depicts someone who was under the age of consent performing a sexual act on another person. However, the reason the prosecutor is distributing the video is to stir up animus toward Wilson for the charge that failed, i.e. the one of sexual assault on the 17 year old. Because all of the participants were minors, all of the tape constitutes child pornography. Had Wilson been in possession of the tape and charged with child porn possession (as some of the child participants in child porn have been charged), the Walsh Act would require the prosecution to confiscate the tape and not allow the defense to have a copy, not even to have an expert witness assess it. Apparently a Georgia prosecutor could distribute the tape to everyone *except* the defense, however.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blogdenovo.org/archives/001747.html" rel="nofollow">The Walsh Act really does get applied.</a> I was sitting in a Southern District of New York courtroom recently and watched the lawyer for a defendant who has been sitting in jail for seven months point out that he still has not seen the evidence against his client -- i.e., the child porn.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bullwinkle Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knucklehead of the Day award</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bullwinkle Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knucklehead of the Day award</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as a child pornographer. Has American Justice gotten that warped and sick? Steve Verdon at OTB writes in a post titled Another Nifong?- I have to admit there is something particularly disturbing when a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knucklehead of the Day award</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knucklehead of the Day award</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as a child pornographer. Has American Justice gotten that warped and sick? Steve Verdon at OTB writes in a post titled Another Nifong?- I have to admit there is something particularly disturbing when a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/another_nifong/comment-page-1/#comment-138517</link>
		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Knucklehead of the Day award...&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s winner is Douglas County(Georgia) DA David McDade....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Knucklehead of the Day award...</strong></p>
<p>Today's winner is Douglas County(Georgia) DA David McDade....</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/another_nifong/comment-page-1/#comment-138443</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This may come down to how the state law is written. But if I recall correctly, in most states (Certainly here in the Vampire State) fifteen is below the age of consent. Therefore, any sexual contact between any individual and at least the fifteen year old, ad possibly the 17 year old, is by definition, rape, since consent could not be given for the contact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s not exactly right; it would be &lt;i&gt;statutory rape&lt;/i&gt;, which in many states goes by other names (&quot;child molestation;&quot; &quot;sexual battery of a minor;&quot; etc).  Rape is a different crime with different penalties, and involves intent and lack of consent, neither of which is required for statutory rape.  Under most if not all the statutory rape laws, liability is strict on the part of the defendant - if a man has sex with a minor, his intent/knowledge to do so and her consent are irrelevant, rendering the question of whether a minor can properly consent a non-issue (and contrary to popular belief, minors of a certain age can consent in many situations).  

Statutory rape is highly dependent on the age of consent in the forum state, which generally ranges from 16-18, though some states have &quot;close in age&quot; exceptions for defendants (e.g., under 21 if &quot;victim&quot; is at least 14; no more than 3 years separating the parties).  On the other end of the spectrum, some states make no exception for children of the &lt;i&gt;same&lt;/i&gt; age, and both are considered to statutorily rape each other (though courts have nonsensically upheld convictions where the prosecution chooses only to prosecute the male).  

Georgia&#039;s age of consent appears to be 16, with reduction from felony to misdemeanor for Defendants who are 18 or younger if the &quot;victim&quot; is no more than four years younger than the Defendant.  I believe the law was actually changed in this manner as a response to Mr. Wilson&#039;s unjustifiably harsh sentence, though it was not done so retroactively so that he would be aided by the recognition of inequity in his case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This may come down to how the state law is written. But if I recall correctly, in most states (Certainly here in the Vampire State) fifteen is below the age of consent. Therefore, any sexual contact between any individual and at least the fifteen year old, ad possibly the 17 year old, is by definition, rape, since consent could not be given for the contact.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's not exactly right; it would be <i>statutory rape</i>, which in many states goes by other names ("child molestation;" "sexual battery of a minor;" etc).  Rape is a different crime with different penalties, and involves intent and lack of consent, neither of which is required for statutory rape.  Under most if not all the statutory rape laws, liability is strict on the part of the defendant - if a man has sex with a minor, his intent/knowledge to do so and her consent are irrelevant, rendering the question of whether a minor can properly consent a non-issue (and contrary to popular belief, minors of a certain age can consent in many situations).  </p>
<p>Statutory rape is highly dependent on the age of consent in the forum state, which generally ranges from 16-18, though some states have "close in age" exceptions for defendants (e.g., under 21 if "victim" is at least 14; no more than 3 years separating the parties).  On the other end of the spectrum, some states make no exception for children of the <i>same</i> age, and both are considered to statutorily rape each other (though courts have nonsensically upheld convictions where the prosecution chooses only to prosecute the male).  </p>
<p>Georgia's age of consent appears to be 16, with reduction from felony to misdemeanor for Defendants who are 18 or younger if the "victim" is no more than four years younger than the Defendant.  I believe the law was actually changed in this manner as a response to Mr. Wilson's unjustifiably harsh sentence, though it was not done so retroactively so that he would be aided by the recognition of inequity in his case.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gollum,

And distributing, as the DA has apparently done, is also highly illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gollum,</p>
<p>And distributing, as the DA has apparently done, is also highly illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Gollum</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/another_nifong/comment-page-1/#comment-138425</link>
		<dc:creator>Gollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The age of consent in GA is apparently 16, but the sex with the 17-year old was charged as rape b/c she was too drunk to consent.

Curiously, had Wilson had full intercourse w/ the 15 year old the most he could have received in prison time was 12 months, but the oral sex made it &quot;aggravated&quot; which merited the longer term.

Also a curiousity, federal law defines child porn as a video of sex between individuals under age 18 - - so even though sex between two 17-year olds would not constitute a crime under GA law, filming it results in creating of kiddie porn under federal law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The age of consent in GA is apparently 16, but the sex with the 17-year old was charged as rape b/c she was too drunk to consent.</p>
<p>Curiously, had Wilson had full intercourse w/ the 15 year old the most he could have received in prison time was 12 months, but the oral sex made it "aggravated" which merited the longer term.</p>
<p>Also a curiousity, federal law defines child porn as a video of sex between individuals under age 18 - - so even though sex between two 17-year olds would not constitute a crime under GA law, filming it results in creating of kiddie porn under federal law.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may come down to how the state law is written.  But if I recall correctly, in most states (Certainly here in the Vampire State) fifteen is below the age of consent.  Therefore, any sexual contact between any individual and at least the fifteen year old, ad possibly the 17 year old, is by definition, rape, since consent could not be given for the contact.

I say again, I&#039;m amazed that they didn&#039;t manage to get a conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may come down to how the state law is written.  But if I recall correctly, in most states (Certainly here in the Vampire State) fifteen is below the age of consent.  Therefore, any sexual contact between any individual and at least the fifteen year old, ad possibly the 17 year old, is by definition, rape, since consent could not be given for the contact.</p>
<p>I say again, I'm amazed that they didn't manage to get a conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Gollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- - oops.  This is worth clarifying.  The tape shows two acts, one of Wilson (then 17) having sex with another 17-year old, and one of Wilson getting oral sex from a 15-year old.  The incident with the 17-year old was originally charged as a rape, and that was what the jury acquitted him of.  The incident with the 15-year old was charged as aggravated child molestation, and Wilson was convicted for that (and remains in jail).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- - oops.  This is worth clarifying.  The tape shows two acts, one of Wilson (then 17) having sex with another 17-year old, and one of Wilson getting oral sex from a 15-year old.  The incident with the 17-year old was originally charged as a rape, and that was what the jury acquitted him of.  The incident with the 15-year old was charged as aggravated child molestation, and Wilson was convicted for that (and remains in jail).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gollum,

Thanks, I keep forgetting that, which makes even the fellation from the 15 year old hard to believe...especially a 10 year conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gollum,</p>
<p>Thanks, I keep forgetting that, which makes even the fellation from the 15 year old hard to believe...especially a 10 year conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Gollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; . . . a video tape to potential supporters that depicts sex and where one of the individuals is only 17 years of age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, they were &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; underage.  Wilson was 17 at the time of the &quot;offense,&quot; the &quot;victim&quot; was 15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> . . . a video tape to potential supporters that depicts sex and where one of the individuals is only 17 years of age.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, they were <em>both</em> underage.  Wilson was 17 at the time of the "offense," the "victim" was 15.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For all that the DA, is out of line, one does wonder, how is that if they have videotape of the crime taking place, they don&#039;t have the conviction?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not sure what you are suggesting.  One conclusion might be that there was no crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For all that the DA, is out of line, one does wonder, how is that if they have videotape of the crime taking place, they don't have the conviction?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure what you are suggesting.  One conclusion might be that there was no crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all that the DA, is out of line, one does wonder, how is that if they have videotape of the crime taking place, they don&#039;t have the &lt;em&gt;conviction&lt;/em&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all that the DA, is out of line, one does wonder, how is that if they have videotape of the crime taking place, they don't have the <em>conviction</em>?</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite amazing that these prosecutors have been able to bring even more disrepute to the practice of law.  I read that McDade claimed the distribution was legal but then promptly advised all those in possession of a copy of this child pornography to destroy it.  Now if only it was discovered that he shipped it across state lines or through the mail, then dealing with this wouldn&#039;t be up to the Georgia good ole boys.

Note to the Georgia politicals who received this tape, the FBI did the Tennessee Waltz, best you be careful you don&#039;t end up doing the Georgia Crawl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite amazing that these prosecutors have been able to bring even more disrepute to the practice of law.  I read that McDade claimed the distribution was legal but then promptly advised all those in possession of a copy of this child pornography to destroy it.  Now if only it was discovered that he shipped it across state lines or through the mail, then dealing with this wouldn't be up to the Georgia good ole boys.</p>
<p>Note to the Georgia politicals who received this tape, the FBI did the Tennessee Waltz, best you be careful you don't end up doing the Georgia Crawl.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the very, very least, this is actionable invasion of privacy, not only of Wilson, but of his &quot;victim.&quot;  If it&#039;s done by accusing Wilson of Rape (for which he has been acquitted), it&#039;s likely defamation as well.

Criminal charges also seem appropriate if the &quot;victim&quot; is indeed 17.

Any one of these things are grounds for sanction, including disbarment, by the bar association.  Let&#039;s hope Georgia has something of a sense of fairness and can follow North Carolina&#039;s lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the very, very least, this is actionable invasion of privacy, not only of Wilson, but of his "victim."  If it's done by accusing Wilson of Rape (for which he has been acquitted), it's likely defamation as well.</p>
<p>Criminal charges also seem appropriate if the "victim" is indeed 17.</p>
<p>Any one of these things are grounds for sanction, including disbarment, by the bar association.  Let's hope Georgia has something of a sense of fairness and can follow North Carolina's lead.</p>
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