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	<title>Comments on: AP and Bloggers Face Off on Flaming Sunnis</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ap_and_bloggers_face_off_on_flaming_sunnis/comment-page-1/#comment-105800</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madmatt,

I would suggest reading Tom Zeller&#039;s report in the NY Times.  There is controversy surrounding this report and asking questions would be good thing.  The AP&#039;s response to those questioners is suspicious in itself.

So the Iraqi military says it can&#039;t be confirmed, the US military says it can&#039;t be confirmed, the leading Sunni clerics are not speaking of the incident, and the AP has reports from a few Sunni locals who have already buried the bodies before they could be examined.

So we still don&#039;t know what happened.

As for the chubby white guy in the basement, who cares.  If I use my noggin I can see where this story is incomplete at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madmatt,</p>
<p>I would suggest reading Tom Zeller's report in the NY Times.  There is controversy surrounding this report and asking questions would be good thing.  The AP's response to those questioners is suspicious in itself.</p>
<p>So the Iraqi military says it can't be confirmed, the US military says it can't be confirmed, the leading Sunni clerics are not speaking of the incident, and the AP has reports from a few Sunni locals who have already buried the bodies before they could be examined.</p>
<p>So we still don't know what happened.</p>
<p>As for the chubby white guy in the basement, who cares.  If I use my noggin I can see where this story is incomplete at best.</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey steve, the ap seems to have several follow up witnesses as well as the original source...whose word are you taking that it didn&#039;t happen...some chubby white guy in his basement in des moines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey steve, the ap seems to have several follow up witnesses as well as the original source...whose word are you taking that it didn't happen...some chubby white guy in his basement in des moines?</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ap_and_bloggers_face_off_on_flaming_sunnis/comment-page-1/#comment-105784</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Circle The Wagons...&lt;/strong&gt;

    	 	  
Well, it really isn&#039;t surprising, but the New York Times has a substantially different take on the Associated Press and their continued quoting of an apparently fictional police captain. Jules Crittenden at the Boston Herald slammed the A...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Circle The Wagons...</strong></p>
<p>Well, it really isn&#39;t surprising, but the New York Times has a substantially different take on the Associated Press and their continued quoting of an apparently fictional police captain. Jules Crittenden at the Boston Herald slammed the A...</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America&#62;Media Lies</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ap_and_bloggers_face_off_on_flaming_sunnis/comment-page-1/#comment-105783</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America&#62;Media Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Supporting Enemy Propaganda--NYT...&lt;/strong&gt;

Please notice that the NYT piece and the page that has the email from Wong are BOTH from Tom Zeller. So it cannot be claimed that Zeller wasn&#039;t aware of this email, he deliberately left it out of the article in question!!!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Supporting Enemy Propaganda--NYT...</strong></p>
<p>Please notice that the NYT piece and the page that has the email from Wong are BOTH from Tom Zeller. So it cannot be claimed that Zeller wasn't aware of this email, he deliberately left it out of the article in question!!!...</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ap_and_bloggers_face_off_on_flaming_sunnis/comment-page-1/#comment-105777</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madmatt should look into this story a little more.  It&#039;s not so much AP&#039;s relying on one source but the fact that they really came down on those who would even dare to question the reliability of the source and question AP&#039;s judgement on running the story.

Facts are needed and facts are not being provided.  Can&#039;t hardly cover for the administration with no facts available.  And how would asking for facts be covering them anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madmatt should look into this story a little more.  It's not so much AP's relying on one source but the fact that they really came down on those who would even dare to question the reliability of the source and question AP's judgement on running the story.</p>
<p>Facts are needed and facts are not being provided.  Can't hardly cover for the administration with no facts available.  And how would asking for facts be covering them anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so why is that so many right wing blogs excoriate the iraqis as little more than barbarians are suddenly so willing to dismiss all there previous allegations and blame the ap?  More covering for the administration who won&#039;t even abide by the dictionary definition of civil war?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so why is that so many right wing blogs excoriate the iraqis as little more than barbarians are suddenly so willing to dismiss all there previous allegations and blame the ap?  More covering for the administration who won't even abide by the dictionary definition of civil war?</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Responding To The New York Times...&lt;/strong&gt;

The New York Times has a new article out tomorrow in which they skewer blogs for having the audacity to question them: For bloggers who believe that the media has been drawing false pictures of mayhem in Iraq, the insistence......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Responding To The New York Times...</strong></p>
<p>The New York Times has a new article out tomorrow in which they skewer blogs for having the audacity to question them: For bloggers who believe that the media has been drawing false pictures of mayhem in Iraq, the insistence......</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find troubling is that the blogosphere (and CENTCOM) is taking as fact and hanging their reputation on, solely the word of the Iraqi Govt. spokesman.

With the fine example of &#039;Baghdad Bob&#039; as a precedent and the multiple reports of Ministry of the Interior death squads, is there any reason to believe that the MOI spokesman&#039;s denials of the incident and the existance of the AP&#039;s source is credible? Or at least more credible than the AP&#039;s reports?

I&#039;m not ready to take a side on this without more evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find troubling is that the blogosphere (and CENTCOM) is taking as fact and hanging their reputation on, solely the word of the Iraqi Govt. spokesman.</p>
<p>With the fine example of 'Baghdad Bob' as a precedent and the multiple reports of Ministry of the Interior death squads, is there any reason to believe that the MOI spokesman's denials of the incident and the existance of the AP's source is credible? Or at least more credible than the AP's reports?</p>
<p>I'm not ready to take a side on this without more evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Quote of The Day: Mary Katharine Ham on Why &#8216;Police Captain&#8217; Jamil Hussein Matters (Plus Other Updates)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Quote of The Day: Mary Katharine Ham on Why &#8216;Police Captain&#8217; Jamil Hussein Matters (Plus Other Updates)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin &#8212; &#8220;&#8230;.. lack of transparency, disclosure, reliability, and credibility is at the heart of the war coverage controversy the MSM doesn&#8217;t want to confront.&#8221; Outside the Beltway &#8212; &#8220;Given that AP has had numerous problems with international stringers in recent months, one would think they would turn over ever stone to answer these questions. Plenty of once-venerable, once-trusted institutions have lost their credibility with repeated violations of their trust.&#8221; _____________________________________ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin &#8212; &#8220;&#8230;.. lack of transparency, disclosure, reliability, and credibility is at the heart of the war coverage controversy the MSM doesn&#8217;t want to confront.&#8221; Outside the Beltway &#8212; &#8220;Given that AP has had numerous problems with international stringers in recent months, one would think they would turn over ever stone to answer these questions. Plenty of once-venerable, once-trusted institutions have lost their credibility with repeated violations of their trust.&#8221; _____________________________________ [...]</p>
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