Comments on: Are Conservatives Being Left Out of Web 2.0?

By: Code Monkey Ramblings

Code Monkey Ramblings — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:05:30 +0000

How conservatives and libertarians aren't quite losing the net... James Joyner does a decent job with the issue of conservatives being "left out" with many of the new Web 2.0 services, but I don't think the situation is as dire as he (or especially Michelle Malkin) think that it......

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:25:18 +0000

Legion, It is possible, but one example of the "inappropriate" is the 'Zucker' commercial. So while I'm not in a position to know all the posts in question (I don't go to Malkin's site often), there is at least one example that took the "conservative" position, gored the "liberal" ox and was banned, though it was appropriate by youtube standards otherwise. So while I am open to the possibility that this isn't political at its heart (and I suspect youtube viewers not youtube per se based on what I know), I don't think that is the likely case.

By: legion

legion — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:56:36 +0000

YAJ, You assume that only 'liberals' would object to Malkin's content. Or that only 'conservatives' would object to whatever you put up. I can't even get to Youtube from work to evaluate, but isn't it possilbe that what she had up was simply inappropriate?

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:30:18 +0000

It would be interesting to understand the reason behind the decision to stop the hosting. My understanding is that youtube is essentially community enforced standards, so it takes people objecting to a video to get it banned and enough bans on a single user to get them booted. If so, what we are seeing here is liberals trying to shut down speech they don't like. Conservatives can violate their principles by likewise shutting down liberal speech at youtube, which would create a no man zone. As long as both sides "patrolled" the no man zone, no political speech would be made.

The test to me would be to create an account with some liberal video material. Then invite people to object and see if youtube shuts it down.

By: legion

legion — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:51:30 +0000

Charles,
For a surprising (and disturbing) number of people, the answer would be yes. There is a distinct 'pack mentality' undercurrent to human social interaction...

By: charles austin

charles austin — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:34:46 +0000

Someone wise once said that freedom of the press only applies to those who own printing presses. What I find more troubling is the seeming desire to create an echo chamber where only like minded voices can be heard. Is that the world they really want?

By: madmatt

madmatt — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:32:42 +0000

gosh that would be similar to right wing radio...hate drowns out all reasonable conversations...or like countless right wing websites that filter comments for opinion not profanity!

Plus if republicans are smarter why do libs invent all the cool stuff?

By: Anon

Anon — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:05:56 +0000

If Malkin's goal was to get her video seen by people visiting the YouTube site, then it is true that YouTube's refusal might hurt her. However, I suspect that in Michelle's case, most people see her videos through her site or other blogs. In that case, it really doesn't matter where it is hosted. (Except for the hosting costs, which don't seem to be the concern here.)

By: the david all group :: websites, online marketing, political strategy, republican

Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000

t I also assume they are working with them to improve their SEO, direct traffic to their videos, etc.? That’s just commonsense. UPDATE 3:49 PM: For further reading, check out James Joyner’s thoughtful post on whether “Conservatives are being left out of Web 2.0.”

By: Olbermann Watch - MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann

Olbermann Watch - MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000

movement's failure to sufficiently become involved in creating the next generation of the internet" The National Review calls it a "must read" too. Hmmm. Then you had BETTER read it! 186K is not so sure about my the premise for the piece. Outside the Beltway says " I don’t see how it much matters who invents certain technologies." The Real Ugly American says "I don't know if his fears are well founded or not but it certainly bares (sic) more attention."