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	<title>Comments on: Army Linguists Net $150,000 Bonus</title>
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		<title>By: US Army Pays Arab, Farsi Linguists $150,000 Bonus &#171; The Pentagon Brief</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/army_linguists_net_150000_bonus/comment-page-1/#comment-492878</link>
		<dc:creator>US Army Pays Arab, Farsi Linguists $150,000 Bonus &#171; The Pentagon Brief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the full story of how the Army is trying to meet the demand for Middle Eastern language specialists to cope with operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/army_linguists_net_150000_bonus/comment-page-1/#comment-490671</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The obvious downside of the bonus approach, aside from it being expensive, is that it could radically skew the pay structure of the force. Depending on how many years the bonus is spread out over, you could have private E-1s making more money than bird colonels.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In private industry and as a mid-level manager for one of those contractors receiving an, ahem, princely wage (even though it never did allow me to be able to afford to buy a house in NOVA), albeit not as a linguist, I would just note that I always had people working for me that made more than I did, as did the folks I reported to.  You pay for talent, and not all talent has an interest in moving up the ladder, being responsible for other people, or doing the business development tasks necessary to be a manager in that industry.  If this is a problem with the force pay structure, maybe it is the apparent requirements of a strictly hierarchical force pay structure that is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The obvious downside of the bonus approach, aside from it being expensive, is that it could radically skew the pay structure of the force. Depending on how many years the bonus is spread out over, you could have private E-1s making more money than bird colonels.</p></blockquote>
<p>In private industry and as a mid-level manager for one of those contractors receiving an, ahem, princely wage (even though it never did allow me to be able to afford to buy a house in NOVA), albeit not as a linguist, I would just note that I always had people working for me that made more than I did, as did the folks I reported to.  You pay for talent, and not all talent has an interest in moving up the ladder, being responsible for other people, or doing the business development tasks necessary to be a manager in that industry.  If this is a problem with the force pay structure, maybe it is the apparent requirements of a strictly hierarchical force pay structure that is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Stand-To!- Army-Air Force Unmanned Aircraft SystemÃÔ (UAS) Concept of Operations (CONOPS)- Aug. 6, 2008 - Freemason Hirams Travels Masonic Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stand-To!- Army-Air Force Unmanned Aircraft SystemÃÔ (UAS) Concept of Operations (CONOPS)- Aug. 6, 2008 - Freemason Hirams Travels Masonic Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Army linguists net $150,000 bonus (OTB) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: test</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/army_linguists_net_150000_bonus/comment-page-1/#comment-490264</link>
		<dc:creator>test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:  Good point. We have more &quot;native&quot; speakers of foreign languages than any other country on the planet.   It does sound, though, as if the Army is recruiting foreign nationals with expedited citizenship as a perk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:  Good point. We have more "native" speakers of foreign languages than any other country on the planet.   It does sound, though, as if the Army is recruiting foreign nationals with expedited citizenship as a perk.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clever.

(Hey.... Someone hadda say it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever.</p>
<p>(Hey.... Someone hadda say it)</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: I think you&#039;re unintentionally excluding some people in your calculation.

An instance is my nephew-by-marriage (i.e., the son of my brother&#039;s wife, through her first marriage). The young man, now in the US Army in Iraq, holds both American and Moroccan citizenship. He was raised in Morocco and is very much a native speaker of Arabic.

I&#039;m sure both he and his parents and step-father are delighted that this little windfall is heading in his direction. I suspect his sister may be rethinking her career choices about now, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: I think you're unintentionally excluding some people in your calculation.</p>
<p>An instance is my nephew-by-marriage (i.e., the son of my brother's wife, through her first marriage). The young man, now in the US Army in Iraq, holds both American and Moroccan citizenship. He was raised in Morocco and is very much a native speaker of Arabic.</p>
<p>I'm sure both he and his parents and step-father are delighted that this little windfall is heading in his direction. I suspect his sister may be rethinking her career choices about now, too!</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, I think, although a change from previous policy.  It used to be thought, not totally irrationally, that having non-citizens handling these sensitive matters brought with it certain security concerns.  It appears, though, that operational necessity has trumped that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's right, I think, although a change from previous policy.  It used to be thought, not totally irrationally, that having non-citizens handling these sensitive matters brought with it certain security concerns.  It appears, though, that operational necessity has trumped that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this program is largely to the good but note that it emphasizes a point I&#039;ve made before:  they&#039;re paying the bonuses to &lt;b&gt;native speakers&lt;/b&gt;.  You can&#039;t study to learn to be a native speaker; you either are or you aren&#039;t.

American employers, generally, not just the military prefer native speakers of their target languages even if their command of English is less over native speakers of English who&#039;ve studied the target language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this program is largely to the good but note that it emphasizes a point I've made before:  they're paying the bonuses to <b>native speakers</b>.  You can't study to learn to be a native speaker; you either are or you aren't.</p>
<p>American employers, generally, not just the military prefer native speakers of their target languages even if their command of English is less over native speakers of English who've studied the target language.</p>
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