2. BEING A 2 TOUR MARINE VETERAN, (O2.26.2004-09.29.2004 & 09.09.2005-03.17.2006), I NEVER TURNED MY BACK ON ANY OF MY MARINES. NO MATTER THIS JR. Officers STANCE, HE TURNED HIS BACK ON HIS SOLDIERS.

3. LAST TIME I CHECKED, OBAMA DIDN’T START THIS WAR, NOR CAN HE JUST PULL THE U.S. MILITARY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST IN 3 MONTHS. THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS REASONS BROUGHT UP WHY WE ARE AT WAR IN IRAQ, BUT NEITHER STOPPED US FROM GOING OVER THERE.

4. IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY ONLY NATURAL BORN CITIZENS OF AMERICA CAN BE PRESIDENT, THEN WE HAVE NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT, EVER. THE ONLY NATURAL BORN CITIZENS ARE NATIVE AMERICANS. THE REST OF US ARE MERELY OFFSPRING OF IMMIGRANTS. SO NOW IT’S EASIER TO SAY THAT WE WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY OTHER RACE TO BECOME PRESIDENT, NO MATTER HOW GREAT THEIR IDEAS ARE OR MAY SEEM. NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY, THIS SHIT IS JUST A COVER UP & POLITICALLY CORRECT WAY OF SAYING “I AM NOT GOING TO DEFEND MY COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT.”

THANK YOU & HAVE A NICE DAY.

At the end of the day, as an officer he can resign his commission at any time if he feels that someone in his chain of command is an impostor. He needn't go around unnecessarily subjecting himself to a court-martial for Art 88 or Art 90.

I agree this soldier is out of line but disagree that it is not his position to interpret the constitution. Anyone doing so should understand that their interpretation isn’t necessary accurate which opens a whole can a worm. Similar to what constitutes a lawful order, it is usually best to give the benefit of doubt to higher or you can and often do find yourself in a world of hurt.

It is like following laws. I for the most purposes follow the laws and follow orders. However I do recognize there is a point where I would not. One scenario would be if the Democratic control congress and Obama double the size of the Supreme Court and stack it with ultra liberals then pass laws against owning guns which is held up by that Ultra liberal Supreme Court. Then Obama orders the military to go around and take everyone’s guns. At that point not only would I not follow his orders but I would openly revolt and know many in the combat arms that would do so also.

That is one scenario that I would revolt. What scenario would any of you revolt or would you follow orders regardless?

Actually, those are facts that can be demonstrated by the official record, i.e., that the election was certified and Obama was sworn in as President and therefore by the Constitution is the Commander in Chief.

Yeah, right. There are no "facts"--the LT is a postmodernist.

888. ART. 88. CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

UCMJ, Art. 88

That is only your interpretation.

Actually, those are facts that can be demonstrated by the official record, i.e., that the election was certified and Obama was sworn in as President and therefore by the Constitution is the Commander in Chief.

The LT is hardly upholding his oath to the Constitution by refusing to accept the acts of those constitutionally empowered to oversee the election and swearing in of the President. Perhaps there was an error in eligibility but until the Senate or the Supreme Court say otherwise, the election of Obama is constitutionally valid.

The president of the United States, as chosen by the Electoral College, ratified by the United States Senate, and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, is his commander in chief.

That is only your interpretation.

Most Americans--who haven't been hypnotized by the liberal media--recognize that Hussein was born in Indonesia and that he is an illegal immigrant.

Do we really want, for example, 2LTs going around asking for validation papers of everyone issuing them orders? "I'm sorry colonel, but how do I know you really graduated from West Point and were commissioned?"

It'd be kind of interesting if that began happening. I suspect there were at least a few soldiers who would have been happy to doubt Bush's constitutional right to be President and thus send them to Iraq in the first place(based of course on their own interpretation). Its the kind of tool that can be used against anyone once its made available.

I would disagree with your premise that a 2lt isn't supposed to interpret the constitution. He is not supposed to follow illegal orders nor to follow legal orders by those not empowered to give them.

Illegal orders are those to do something illegal. The president of the United States, as chosen by the Electoral College, ratified by the United States Senate, and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, is his commander in chief.

Do we really want, for example, 2LTs going around asking for validation papers of everyone issuing them orders? "I'm sorry colonel, but how do I know you really graduated from West Point and were commissioned?"

Our job and oath is so very simple

But first. Hold on. I want to explain something that people can't see or care about. And that is the fact that everyone does not join for *rank* purposes. So the poster remarks quoted stating this is *way outside of this LT's lane*......

Is absolutely correct. Because it was in YOUR LANE but you couldn't do your jobs because of the fear of being labeled in the MSM as racist. So don't attack him for what the people didnt do. Sit and lie to yourselves you want but history will reflect the truth. I never thought I would see the day, the blogs and MSM side with detainees with false claims of *torture*. But are quick to go on attack against us. I have listened to the most anti-military remarks on blogs and the media this last year.

No one stood up for us. No one did anything. Because you have no heart. No backbone. No will.AND No spine. I believe with everything in me the laws that govern our land. But they would have to put me beyond the walls of Gitmo locked up before I ever see any democrat or republican attempt to strip away the core values and foundation in which this country was built.

If we can die for the constitution. Then our elected officials damn better govern by it. There are no compromises when it comes to justice. Because the day we disregard are own country, our own principles our own guidelines and our own laws. Will be the day this country will cease to exist with attempting to have any world standing.

The blood of millions spilled for it. I Because so many make the ultimate sacrifice just to uhold what some view as just another document created by those who dont look the same way they do.

I have read more positive stories and support about detainees than the ones that have your back. So continue to bash us and continue to ridicule and demean and toss out UCMJ quotes by all means. This is not about our president. But the constitution. It will be upheld if it is being violated. Before the day I ever fail my country by disregarding the oath I took stating I will defend the Constitution in March of 1998. Will be the day I am no longer worthy to wear this uniform. Because I will never and I mean ever compromise my integrity or moral compass. I will always do what is right. Because we are just as much as the part of the link that binds this country together.

Continue to put down this Lieutenant. Because every damn blow they make as they attempt to drown him out when the left begins the attack. It will be one more person who will willing to defend him. We may not always agree. But one thing I do know is that you will not find anyone willing to sit and watch the fringe become unhinged. Because whether or not it's fact or fiction. We will never evah leave a goddamn comrade behind. I may not agree with him. But I damn sure will stand behind him AND his family. When the left becomes unhinged and go on attack.