Comments on: Army’s New Interrogation Rules May Anger McCain

By: Hard Astarboard

Hard Astarboard — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:44:01 +0000

Stealing McCain's Thunder

James Joyner, at Outside The Beltway has posted on the new, classified policies for interrogation being set up by the U.S. Army, which the New York Times speculates will anger U.S. Senator John McCain(R, Arizona) as he is presently negotiating...

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:30:44 +0000

Hm, I was mad when I wrote that comment ... of course the judge has to see the info, but why are federal judges now untrustworthy?

Besides which, looking at Holsinger, he makes no sense that I can discern. I, Abdul al-Anderson, allege that I have been tortured. Having found a naive but sincere lawyer (in the 9th Circuit), I file a sec. 1983 suit, alleging that I was tortured, etc.

How does "the info learned from interrogating" me have anything to do with my claims?

By: The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » Catching my eye: morning A through Z

Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:26:37 +0000

[...] Commenter Thomas Holsinger’s guest post on Winds of Change on the legal problems that may be caused by the McCain Amendment is definitely worth reading. More on the subject from James Joyner of Outside the Beltway. [...]

By: Conservative Outpost

Conservative Outpost — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:36 +0000

Go Army!

In the midst of all the artificial "look at me" hubbub created by John McCain on the issue of torture, The Army has taken it upon itself to issue a new classified addendum to its field manual on the subject...detailing...

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:36:03 +0000

Anderson: I don't fully understand the law in this area but my understanding is that, even if the information is "under seal" it has to be revealed to the judge who then determines whether it's relevant to the case. If it is, then the evidence can be used with restrictions--in camera and so forth. Given that sources and methods are often compromised in so doing, intelligence agencies will usually prefer to lose the case than release the information. I'm not sure how to handle this and think the rights of the individual need to be given highest priority in these cases. But it is further evidence that law enforcement, intelligence, and warfighting operate on different planes and by different rules.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:12:47 +0000

Thomas Holsinger is a very stupid or very dishonest person. Has he never heard of courts' keeping information under seal?

I am so very tired of so-called Americans who would prefer to live under some authoritarian regime without our court system. If they have such a problem with America, the borders are open for Mr. Holsinger and his ilk.

By: DL

DL — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:26:40 +0000

McCain is not God! I wish we would stop treating him as such.

Perhaps those regs are deliberately vague.