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	<title>Comments on: Assault in Falluja Is Likely, U.S. Officers Say</title>
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		<title>By: subsunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>subsunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

The Islamists have been moving into Ramadi over the last several months and have reached a mass sufficient to intimidate all the Iraqi government forces stationed in Ramadi.  Only about 300 soldiers from the Iraqi Intervention Force are trustworthy and able to work.  They are not from Ramadi.

But the Marines are increasingly needing larger force protection measures to traverse Ramadi.  I look for two or three &quot;regiments&quot; or Brigade combat teams  to take Ramadi, and one brigade/regiment to take Fallujah.  I think there will be a decisive end to this in two weeks from the word go.  The unrest will increase around Latifiya  once the assault begins because the Brits are new to that area, and the terrorists have kicked out the Shiites from that area (they were only 20% there) and so there is no one to provide good intel against the terrorists.  This may be the major problem.

Sadr City will be relatively quiet because 1st Cav is ready to destroy any Sadrists and just wants an excuse to do so.  The rest of Iraq will be quiet, because the Marines killed so many Sadrists in August.  My best guess with little actual input from the theater.  So what do I know.

I hope they have good hunting.

Subsunk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>The Islamists have been moving into Ramadi over the last several months and have reached a mass sufficient to intimidate all the Iraqi government forces stationed in Ramadi.  Only about 300 soldiers from the Iraqi Intervention Force are trustworthy and able to work.  They are not from Ramadi.</p>
<p>But the Marines are increasingly needing larger force protection measures to traverse Ramadi.  I look for two or three "regiments" or Brigade combat teams  to take Ramadi, and one brigade/regiment to take Fallujah.  I think there will be a decisive end to this in two weeks from the word go.  The unrest will increase around Latifiya  once the assault begins because the Brits are new to that area, and the terrorists have kicked out the Shiites from that area (they were only 20% there) and so there is no one to provide good intel against the terrorists.  This may be the major problem.</p>
<p>Sadr City will be relatively quiet because 1st Cav is ready to destroy any Sadrists and just wants an excuse to do so.  The rest of Iraq will be quiet, because the Marines killed so many Sadrists in August.  My best guess with little actual input from the theater.  So what do I know.</p>
<p>I hope they have good hunting.</p>
<p>Subsunk</p>
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		<title>By: leaddog2</title>
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		<dc:creator>leaddog2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

There is NO &quot;loss&quot; of Ramadi. Marines are still there, but Islamist homicidial maniacs will need to be eliminated there also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>There is NO "loss" of Ramadi. Marines are still there, but Islamist homicidial maniacs will need to be eliminated there also.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A stable Iraq, if it can ever exist, can come about only after the armed militants are defeated. That&#039;s not going to happen through negotiations, gun buybacks, or other passive strategies. &quot;

And after thirty five years in occupation of the west bank, Isreal has proved it&#039;s not going to happen by any means at all. It seems the natives of the region would rather make their own history than have outsiders make it for them, no matter how long it takes or what price they have to pay. 

Just a reality based observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"A stable Iraq, if it can ever exist, can come about only after the armed militants are defeated. That's not going to happen through negotiations, gun buybacks, or other passive strategies. "</p>
<p>And after thirty five years in occupation of the west bank, Isreal has proved it's not going to happen by any means at all. It seems the natives of the region would rather make their own history than have outsiders make it for them, no matter how long it takes or what price they have to pay. </p>
<p>Just a reality based observation.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was Ramadi lost to the insurgents that it now has to be taken back? I know US forces never held Falluja, but when did they lose Ramadi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was Ramadi lost to the insurgents that it now has to be taken back? I know US forces never held Falluja, but when did they lose Ramadi?</p>
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		<title>By: INDC Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>INDC Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British troops from the Black Watch are already moving north to take up positions vacated by US troops. They are expected to be fully in place within days, so US action must be imminent.

It&#039;ll be interesting (from a morbid perspective) to see what the exact timing of the assault will be - just before or after the election.  I find it hard to believe that the timing of the attack will be *purely* based on operational considerations.  Before the election is risky because of the risk of casualties, but if it pays off it will show George Bush as a decisive leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>British troops from the Black Watch are already moving north to take up positions vacated by US troops. They are expected to be fully in place within days, so US action must be imminent.</p>
<p>It'll be interesting (from a morbid perspective) to see what the exact timing of the assault will be - just before or after the election.  I find it hard to believe that the timing of the attack will be *purely* based on operational considerations.  Before the election is risky because of the risk of casualties, but if it pays off it will show George Bush as a decisive leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know that such can be done, however, as I sense most of the insurgents are from other Islamic countries. I suppose a full-front attack would only drive them back to the countries to regroup, rearm, and get reinforcements. As I have said all along -- whether you believe this particular war is justified or not, has it not served to bring the War on Terrorism to or close to the source of the enemy support which, in my opinion, is so much better than fighting it on our homeground? Iraq, by its very position is right in the midst of Al-Queda&#039;s backyard and with a swift movement through Kuwait, we could easily take the battle into the very front yard of the people whom I believe &lt;i&gt;most responsible&lt;/i&gt; for supporting and protecting all the terrorist actions against the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know that such can be done, however, as I sense most of the insurgents are from other Islamic countries. I suppose a full-front attack would only drive them back to the countries to regroup, rearm, and get reinforcements. As I have said all along -- whether you believe this particular war is justified or not, has it not served to bring the War on Terrorism to or close to the source of the enemy support which, in my opinion, is so much better than fighting it on our homeground? Iraq, by its very position is right in the midst of Al-Queda's backyard and with a swift movement through Kuwait, we could easily take the battle into the very front yard of the people whom I believe <i>most responsible</i> for supporting and protecting all the terrorist actions against the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Backcountry Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backcountry Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thursday Morning Briefing&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner has posts of note on Arafat&#039;s health, a possible assault to retake Falluja and a court ruling on an Ohio election suit by the GOP. Tucker Eskew reminisces about when cut-and-paste literally meant cutting with scissors and pasting...</description>
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James Joyner has posts of note on Arafat's health, a possible assault to retake Falluja and a court ruling on an Ohio election suit by the GOP. Tucker Eskew reminisces about when cut-and-paste literally meant cutting with scissors and pasting...</p>
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