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		<title>By: BlogRunner: Poll majority: Gays' orientation can't change</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/attitudes_on_homosexuality_changing/comment-page-1/#comment-136369</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogRunner: Poll majority: Gays' orientation can't change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] now think that homosexuals cannot change their sexual orientation; this did not used to be the case.Attitudes on Homosexuality Changing James&#160;Joyner Outside&#160;the&#160;Beltway  elap(&#039;1183031053&#039;);A majority of Americans now [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] now think that homosexuals cannot change their sexual orientation; this did not used to be the case.Attitudes on Homosexuality Changing James Joyner Outside the Beltway  elap('1183031053');A majority of Americans now [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/attitudes_on_homosexuality_changing/comment-page-1/#comment-135804</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It shouldn&#039;t matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can&#039;t help ourselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the people involved in it should be accepted and loved and then helped if they are willing.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is an inherent trait&lt;/blockquote&gt;

we all are all born with sin. 

The ignorance and bigotry on each side of this dilemma seems to me to be no more the both sides failure to realize their use of another sin.

Example:I say to you that you are doing something that is wrong and will harm you, you say to me, who are to Judge my actions?. 

But in doing so are you not also judging me?

And then again hateful fools will mostly be on ether side of any type of conflict.

Just a couple of thoughts on this matter that I hope that Will help in some way, and because in my old Job I had met and came love many homosexual coworkers who are not around any more and from what I fear was a byproduct of their Lifestyle, and in a time that I had nether the insight or information to try or care to help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It shouldn't matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can't help ourselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the people involved in it should be accepted and loved and then helped if they are willing.</p>
<blockquote><p>Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is an inherent trait</p></blockquote>
<p>we all are all born with sin. </p>
<p>The ignorance and bigotry on each side of this dilemma seems to me to be no more the both sides failure to realize their use of another sin.</p>
<p>Example:I say to you that you are doing something that is wrong and will harm you, you say to me, who are to Judge my actions?. </p>
<p>But in doing so are you not also judging me?</p>
<p>And then again hateful fools will mostly be on ether side of any type of conflict.</p>
<p>Just a couple of thoughts on this matter that I hope that Will help in some way, and because in my old Job I had met and came love many homosexual coworkers who are not around any more and from what I fear was a byproduct of their Lifestyle, and in a time that I had nether the insight or information to try or care to help them.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/attitudes_on_homosexuality_changing/comment-page-1/#comment-135793</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salesmanship, not truth, directs public opinion.
 When critical mass is reached on an issue, the truth is first ostracized, then made irrelevant.
 Whether it is Germany in the thirties,WWII in the U.S.,global warming or homosexuality in modern America, ANY opposing view gets shouted down as the propaganda machine builds with a&quot;lynch mob&quot; mentality.

As always, it is very important to know the author&#039;s agenda before judging the authority of his work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salesmanship, not truth, directs public opinion.<br />
 When critical mass is reached on an issue, the truth is first ostracized, then made irrelevant.<br />
 Whether it is Germany in the thirties,WWII in the U.S.,global warming or homosexuality in modern America, ANY opposing view gets shouted down as the propaganda machine builds with a"lynch mob" mentality.</p>
<p>As always, it is very important to know the author's agenda before judging the authority of his work.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/attitudes_on_homosexuality_changing/comment-page-1/#comment-135774</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Problem is that you haven&#039;t gotten true tolerance then, just an excuse. . . . Someday the discussion needs to move beyond &#039;well I agree that homosexuality is wrong in theory, but I can&#039;t help myself&#039; to &#039;homosexual is okay in and of itself&#039;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suspect that it will once more people actually know openly gay people.  In the meantime, I&#039;d think that tolerance gained from a one-off rationalization is far better than the status quo ante. 

Crawl, walk, run and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Problem is that you haven't gotten true tolerance then, just an excuse. . . . Someday the discussion needs to move beyond 'well I agree that homosexuality is wrong in theory, but I can't help myself' to 'homosexual is okay in and of itself'.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect that it will once more people actually know openly gay people.  In the meantime, I'd think that tolerance gained from a one-off rationalization is far better than the status quo ante. </p>
<p>Crawl, walk, run and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/attitudes_on_homosexuality_changing/comment-page-1/#comment-135773</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is
&gt;an inherent trait, however, comparisons to
&gt;racial discrimination and other more familiar
&gt;lessons are harder to ignore.

Problem is that you haven&#039;t gotten true tolerance then, just an excuse.  And an excuse you could lose at any momment.  If it turns out it&#039;s not actually inherent you&#039;re back to square one.  And if it is inherent, you&#039;re now a problem that needs to be fixed.

Someday the discussion needs to move beyond &#039;well I agree that homosexuality is wrong in theory, but I can&#039;t help myself&#039; to &#039;homosexual is okay in and of itself&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is<br />
&gt;an inherent trait, however, comparisons to<br />
&gt;racial discrimination and other more familiar<br />
&gt;lessons are harder to ignore.</p>
<p>Problem is that you haven't gotten true tolerance then, just an excuse.  And an excuse you could lose at any momment.  If it turns out it's not actually inherent you're back to square one.  And if it is inherent, you're now a problem that needs to be fixed.</p>
<p>Someday the discussion needs to move beyond 'well I agree that homosexuality is wrong in theory, but I can't help myself' to 'homosexual is okay in and of itself'.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It shouldn&#039;t matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can&#039;t help ourselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Homosexuality goes against the basic instincts on most of us and is swimming against the tide of cultural norms and especially religious morality.  To the extent, then, that it&#039;s viewed as &quot;a lifestyle choice,&quot; inertia is on the side of intolerance.

Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is an inherent trait, however, comparisons to racial discrimination and other more familiar lessons are harder to ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It shouldn't matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can't help ourselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Homosexuality goes against the basic instincts on most of us and is swimming against the tide of cultural norms and especially religious morality.  To the extent, then, that it's viewed as "a lifestyle choice," inertia is on the side of intolerance.</p>
<p>Once it becomes understood that homosexuality is an inherent trait, however, comparisons to racial discrimination and other more familiar lessons are harder to ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It shouldn&#039;t matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can&#039;t help ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shouldn't matter whether being homosexual is involuntary or not; it should be accepted out of a belief in personal autonomy and not simply because people believe we can't help ourselves.</p>
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