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	<title>Comments on: Autopsy: Rapper O.D.B. Had Drug Overdose</title>
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		<title>By: Rodney Dill</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29753</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never wrestle with a pig,
you just get dirty and the pig likes it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never wrestle with a pig,<br />
you just get dirty and the pig likes it.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29750</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

For one thing, you have no data, so there is really nothing to acknowlege.  Where was your outrage when rich white athletes like Ken Cameniti, John Matuzak &amp; Lyle Alzedo (to say nothing of a host of wrestlers, remember the Von Erich brothers?) died prematurly from steroid/drug use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>For one thing, you have no data, so there is really nothing to acknowlege.  Where was your outrage when rich white athletes like Ken Cameniti, John Matuzak &#038; Lyle Alzedo (to say nothing of a host of wrestlers, remember the Von Erich brothers?) died prematurly from steroid/drug use?</p>
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		<title>By: Attila Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29748</link>
		<dc:creator>Attila Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe society has been any less judgmental when stars from other genres have died of drug overdoses, particularly those in the music industry. Joplin, Hendrix, Moon--it&#039;s just that it&#039;s been a long time, and the chorus of &quot;what a shame&quot; has died out by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't believe society has been any less judgmental when stars from other genres have died of drug overdoses, particularly those in the music industry. Joplin, Hendrix, Moon--it's just that it's been a long time, and the chorus of "what a shame" has died out by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29747</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The subject is entertainers dying of drug overdosesâ¦ are you seriously having a hard time finding white entertainers who were lost this way?&lt;/i&gt;

All part and parcel of the same thing.. that is to say it&#039;s all driven by the culture. Now, once again, let&#039;s try and get you to acknowlege that ona  per group basis, Rappers are comparatively dropping like flies, being far more self-destructive than any other group on the planet, save Islamo-faccists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The subject is entertainers dying of drug overdosesâ¦ are you seriously having a hard time finding white entertainers who were lost this way?</i></p>
<p>All part and parcel of the same thing.. that is to say it's all driven by the culture. Now, once again, let's try and get you to acknowlege that ona  per group basis, Rappers are comparatively dropping like flies, being far more self-destructive than any other group on the planet, save Islamo-faccists.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29730</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry McGehee, one needs very little in the way of brainpower to be a Rumsfeld apologist. In fact a dash of density is a prerequsite..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry McGehee, one needs very little in the way of brainpower to be a Rumsfeld apologist. In fact a dash of density is a prerequsite..</p>
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		<title>By: 42nd SSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>42nd SSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We attribute too many things to &quot;accidents&quot;, auto accidents in particular.  But this wasn&#039;t even close... more like a long, drawn-out and rather complex suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We attribute too many things to "accidents", auto accidents in particular.  But this wasn't even close... more like a long, drawn-out and rather complex suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

The subject is entertainers dying of drug overdoses... are you seriously having a hard time finding white entertainers who were lost this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>The subject is entertainers dying of drug overdoses... are you seriously having a hard time finding white entertainers who were lost this way?</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29723</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Having another slow day in the olâ cerebral cortex?&lt;/i&gt;

You do seem to have that effect. Maybe your density is contagious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Having another slow day in the olâ cerebral cortex?</i></p>
<p>You do seem to have that effect. Maybe your density is contagious.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not &lt;strong&gt;really &lt;/strong&gt;going to argue that this is not happening in disproportionate numbers among young blacks, are you now?

(sigh) Well, now, let&#039;s see.

Can you point to a longish line of dead metal heads? Can you tell me the last time a metal star was killed by another? No?  

Don&#039;t feel bad...Neither can I. 

And I tend to doubt this difference is due to the press sheilding them. Rather, that it ocurrs less per capita inside the respective group, than it does in the group under discussion.

I wrote right after the knife fight at the &#039;Vibe&quot; awards:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Can anyone come up with big name Jazz acts having this kind of reputation? Bigtime Rock acts? When&#039;s the last time we heard of a knife fight at the Philharmonic? I don&#039;t recall anything like this at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville in all the years that&#039;s been running, do you? I&#039;ve been unable to find records of anything of the like happening down at the theatre district in Branson, MO. I haven&#039;t seen anything like this on the Gospel Music circuits, or the Modern Christian music circles, either. Ya know, at some point, someone&#039;s going to figure out that there&#039;s a rather well-established pattern, here. And no, this is not a &#039;racial profiling&#039; thing. This is a &#039;rap profile&#039; thing, and it&#039;s getting as predictable as the outcome of tossing a can of gasoline on a campfire. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;This was reinforced in Detroit a few weeks ago, in that NBA incident with Rapper/Basketball Poser David Artest;
   
&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Think; what is Hip-Hop about? Unabashed anger. Ever see any pictures of rappers smiling? Neither have I. That culture, and those results, last Friday, are directly connected. It&#039;s time now for the NBA to start reckoning with that simple fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're not <strong>really </strong>going to argue that this is not happening in disproportionate numbers among young blacks, are you now?</p>
<p>(sigh) Well, now, let's see.</p>
<p>Can you point to a longish line of dead metal heads? Can you tell me the last time a metal star was killed by another? No?  </p>
<p>Don't feel bad...Neither can I. </p>
<p>And I tend to doubt this difference is due to the press sheilding them. Rather, that it ocurrs less per capita inside the respective group, than it does in the group under discussion.</p>
<p>I wrote right after the knife fight at the 'Vibe" awards:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Can anyone come up with big name Jazz acts having this kind of reputation? Bigtime Rock acts? When's the last time we heard of a knife fight at the Philharmonic? I don't recall anything like this at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville in all the years that's been running, do you? I've been unable to find records of anything of the like happening down at the theatre district in Branson, MO. I haven't seen anything like this on the Gospel Music circuits, or the Modern Christian music circles, either. Ya know, at some point, someone's going to figure out that there's a rather well-established pattern, here. And no, this is not a 'racial profiling' thing. This is a 'rap profile' thing, and it's getting as predictable as the outcome of tossing a can of gasoline on a campfire. </p></blockquote>
<p></em>This was reinforced in Detroit a few weeks ago, in that NBA incident with Rapper/Basketball Poser David Artest;</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Think; what is Hip-Hop about? Unabashed anger. Ever see any pictures of rappers smiling? Neither have I. That culture, and those results, last Friday, are directly connected. It's time now for the NBA to start reckoning with that simple fact.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29712</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGehee,

Having another slow day in the ol&#039; cerebral cortex?

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGehee,</p>
<p>Having another slow day in the ol' cerebral cortex?</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m lost. Anjin-san, how is this Rumsfeld&#039;s fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm lost. Anjin-san, how is this Rumsfeld's fault?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/autopsy_rapper_odb_had_drug_overdose/comment-page-1/#comment-29709</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead

&gt;Then again, the problem is one of percentages.
Perhaps theyâre getting more pres because it HAPPENS more.

Are you saying there are more dead rappers then sucessful black doctors? Please clarify...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead</p>
<p>>Then again, the problem is one of percentages.<br />
Perhaps theyâre getting more pres because it HAPPENS more.</p>
<p>Are you saying there are more dead rappers then sucessful black doctors? Please clarify...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

Please refer to the comments on the thread regarding the tragic death of Darrell Abbott. Do you see even one post that mentions the extreamly violent nature of metal?  

Any comments about how listening to music that glorifies violence &amp; destruction might be bad for someone who is allready unbalanced?

When Jim Morrison drank &amp; drugged himself to death he became a tragic figure. When a rapper does it, its more like, what can you expect from them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>Please refer to the comments on the thread regarding the tragic death of Darrell Abbott. Do you see even one post that mentions the extreamly violent nature of metal?  </p>
<p>Any comments about how listening to music that glorifies violence &#038; destruction might be bad for someone who is allready unbalanced?</p>
<p>When Jim Morrison drank &#038; drugged himself to death he became a tragic figure. When a rapper does it, its more like, what can you expect from them...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;All I am saying is that we should all be aware of our feelings on this issue. In my class in high school one black kid grew up to be an astronaut, another is one of the most prominient physicians in Northern California. I wish they got as much press as a rapper who died of an overdoseâ¦&lt;/i&gt;

So do I.
Then again, the problem is one of percentages.
Perhaps they&#039;re getting more pres because it HAPPENS more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All I am saying is that we should all be aware of our feelings on this issue. In my class in high school one black kid grew up to be an astronaut, another is one of the most prominient physicians in Northern California. I wish they got as much press as a rapper who died of an overdoseâ¦</i></p>
<p>So do I.<br />
Then again, the problem is one of percentages.<br />
Perhaps they're getting more pres because it HAPPENS more.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

My point is that drug addiction is no respecter of race (or anything else, for that matter), and that the lifestyle led by professional entertainers of any race has a very high attrition rate. When a young white man like Kurt Cobain blew his head off with a shotgun, I can recall no general outcry against grunge music. It was more like &quot;what a shame such a gifted guy was so confused&quot;.  

I am not pointing the finger at you specifically.  My oldest friend is black, we have been hanging out for more then 40 years. Yet when I see a group of young black men coming my way, I give them a harder look then I would a similar group of young white men. Why?  I have gotten about a billion messages via the media that young black men are scary.  

All I am saying is that we should all be aware of our feelings on this issue.  In my class in high school one black kid grew up to be an astronaut, another is one of the most prominient physicians in Northern California. I wish they got as much press as a rapper who died of an overdose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>My point is that drug addiction is no respecter of race (or anything else, for that matter), and that the lifestyle led by professional entertainers of any race has a very high attrition rate. When a young white man like Kurt Cobain blew his head off with a shotgun, I can recall no general outcry against grunge music. It was more like "what a shame such a gifted guy was so confused".  </p>
<p>I am not pointing the finger at you specifically.  My oldest friend is black, we have been hanging out for more then 40 years. Yet when I see a group of young black men coming my way, I give them a harder look then I would a similar group of young white men. Why?  I have gotten about a billion messages via the media that young black men are scary.  </p>
<p>All I am saying is that we should all be aware of our feelings on this issue.  In my class in high school one black kid grew up to be an astronaut, another is one of the most prominient physicians in Northern California. I wish they got as much press as a rapper who died of an overdose...</p>
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