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	<title>Comments on: Terry Schiavo Case Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2005 06:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea im doing a college report on this case, there are many conflicting reportings posted all over the internet and even on here. I was just wondering the fact that people say she is not in a coma or persistent vegetative state then what is she in??? Has anyone else ever been diagnosed like she has been?? If so did these people come out of what ever they were in?? If anyone could answer i&#039;d appreciate it very much...       thanks mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea im doing a college report on this case, there are many conflicting reportings posted all over the internet and even on here. I was just wondering the fact that people say she is not in a coma or persistent vegetative state then what is she in??? Has anyone else ever been diagnosed like she has been?? If so did these people come out of what ever they were in?? If anyone could answer i'd appreciate it very much...       thanks mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Ally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These conflicting statements regarding Ms. Schiavo&#039;s condition, causes me to ponder like a few others that her husband had something to do with her injury.  Especially when she was healthy initially... Sounds like it has always been about the money.  Perhaps this woman might say what really happened one day, and the husband&#039;s effort will be for naught. 
Finally, he should divorce the woman and move with the girlfriend and their children.  He got paid!!  Can he obtain more money from this?  Only in America... It&#039;s a shame the guy is doing this.  Pay back is a bitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These conflicting statements regarding Ms. Schiavo's condition, causes me to ponder like a few others that her husband had something to do with her injury.  Especially when she was healthy initially... Sounds like it has always been about the money.  Perhaps this woman might say what really happened one day, and the husband's effort will be for naught.<br />
Finally, he should divorce the woman and move with the girlfriend and their children.  He got paid!!  Can he obtain more money from this?  Only in America... It's a shame the guy is doing this.  Pay back is a bitch!</p>
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		<title>By: Blonddbythelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blonddbythelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2005 00:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having had a beautiful 6 year old nephew go through a court battle to keep his so called &quot;doctors&quot; from pulling his breathing vent, I can&#039;t even imagine what Terri&#039;s Parents are going through. How dare that ass Michael presume to tell us what &quot;Terri said&quot; about living in a vegetative state. We are supposed to believe him that she wants to die? How convenient for Michael to tell us what Terri wants. AFTER the check was cut for her care. lol Why not get her some rehabilitation so she can tell us herself? Or is he afraid of what Terri would tell us...And you arm chair quarterbacks (You know who you are) have no right to talk...Until you go through a situation like this you have no right to advocate death. Terri shows fear when she hears that someone wants to take her tube out, we would give more compassion to a dog, also the ASPCA would help a dog. Who&#039;s there to help Terri?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had a beautiful 6 year old nephew go through a court battle to keep his so called "doctors" from pulling his breathing vent, I can't even imagine what Terri's Parents are going through. How dare that ass Michael presume to tell us what "Terri said" about living in a vegetative state. We are supposed to believe him that she wants to die? How convenient for Michael to tell us what Terri wants. AFTER the check was cut for her care. lol Why not get her some rehabilitation so she can tell us herself? Or is he afraid of what Terri would tell us...And you arm chair quarterbacks (You know who you are) have no right to talk...Until you go through a situation like this you have no right to advocate death. Terri shows fear when she hears that someone wants to take her tube out, we would give more compassion to a dog, also the ASPCA would help a dog. Who's there to help Terri?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all of this the only thing I am sure of is that everybody needs to drop what they are doing and make a Living Will out today.  I myself will put that no heroic measures should be taken to save my life and in the case of a vegatative state, I want to die (and I don&#039;t care how they do it).  Even if I woke up 15 years later, I would rather be dead than suffer through all the mental anguish of what happened while I was in a coma and then comes the physical rehabilitation which is torture in and of itself.  I wonder how many of those same people fighting for Terry&#039;s &quot;right to live&quot; would make the same choice on their own Living Will?  Funny that we can put our beloved pets to sleep and everybody says &quot;it is the right thing to do&quot; when the animal is in pain or has no quality of life left but we can&#039;t do the same for our own loved ones.  And yes, I am comparing her life to that of a dog (I know somebody is going to say it) because all that really matters here is our LOVE for another living being whether it be human or animal and our hope that he/she/it not suffer any more than he/she/it has to.  Everybody has a right to their own opinion but I say put your opinions in the form of a Living Will today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all of this the only thing I am sure of is that everybody needs to drop what they are doing and make a Living Will out today.  I myself will put that no heroic measures should be taken to save my life and in the case of a vegatative state, I want to die (and I don't care how they do it).  Even if I woke up 15 years later, I would rather be dead than suffer through all the mental anguish of what happened while I was in a coma and then comes the physical rehabilitation which is torture in and of itself.  I wonder how many of those same people fighting for Terry's "right to live" would make the same choice on their own Living Will?  Funny that we can put our beloved pets to sleep and everybody says "it is the right thing to do" when the animal is in pain or has no quality of life left but we can't do the same for our own loved ones.  And yes, I am comparing her life to that of a dog (I know somebody is going to say it) because all that really matters here is our LOVE for another living being whether it be human or animal and our hope that he/she/it not suffer any more than he/she/it has to.  Everybody has a right to their own opinion but I say put your opinions in the form of a Living Will today.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin do your homework - it wasn&#039;t potassium imbalance - it was ruled out as the cause - nor was it the &quot;suspected&quot; heart attack either that the press wants to push.  People do your homework before you come on here posting things.  There is no &quot;plug&quot; to pull.  The feeding tube is in her stomach not mouth.  Right to die?  They pulled the plug twice before, once for 6 days - she didn&#039;t die.  Some strange plug being pulled there - wouldn&#039;t you say?  Parents haven&#039;t accepted the inevitable?  Get real.  They are the ones facing REALITY and dealing with it, not trying to run from it.  Why do you think a govenor of the state intervenes?  Cuz there&#039;s a simple plug to pull?  I don&#039;t think so.  There is more to this than we all know.  But I suspect the abuse will come out now that the protective agencies have stepped in for official investigation.  Why do you think the nurses logged suspicious drop in blood sugar after micheal left... too much suspicious things.  He knowing CPR didn&#039;t try to help her... hmmm  How old is the &quot;girlfriends&quot; children?  Terri told friends she was thinking of divoricing him.... wonder why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin do your homework - it wasn't potassium imbalance - it was ruled out as the cause - nor was it the "suspected" heart attack either that the press wants to push.  People do your homework before you come on here posting things.  There is no "plug" to pull.  The feeding tube is in her stomach not mouth.  Right to die?  They pulled the plug twice before, once for 6 days - she didn't die.  Some strange plug being pulled there - wouldn't you say?  Parents haven't accepted the inevitable?  Get real.  They are the ones facing REALITY and dealing with it, not trying to run from it.  Why do you think a govenor of the state intervenes?  Cuz there's a simple plug to pull?  I don't think so.  There is more to this than we all know.  But I suspect the abuse will come out now that the protective agencies have stepped in for official investigation.  Why do you think the nurses logged suspicious drop in blood sugar after micheal left... too much suspicious things.  He knowing CPR didn't try to help her... hmmm  How old is the "girlfriends" children?  Terri told friends she was thinking of divoricing him.... wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: LANIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>LANIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DENNIS....HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS PRAYING FOR TERRI AND FOR YOU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DENNIS....HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS PRAYING FOR TERRI AND FOR YOU?</p>
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		<title>By: terri cellin@ao</title>
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		<dc:creator>terri cellin@ao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is everyone fooling themselves with this case. Terri is alive and it sure looks like she can comminicate. There is no living will she what the husband said. I have no understanding for this kind of cruelty is obvious this man just thinks of his wife as a burden. He has gone on with his life,let her go on with her life. Terri has a life her parents friends the world that cares about her. I would say she has more love and support then he we ever know. Go on with your life and let terri have hers. Wake up people who has a right to say what kind of life you have. This is so insane that a judge that we look up to for help is willing to let them pull her feeding tube. Starving a person to death thats reality is cruel painful and barbaric. This husband has NOT done everything possible for his wife. He has made it so that she is isolated from the world so she will die of loniness. He wants to kill her one way or other. Kill thats what he will be doing lets not sugarcoat this with some medical term. Judges will also be guilty of her death. We need to speak up for terri till she can. If you read this please call your state the state of florida we need to help save her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is everyone fooling themselves with this case. Terri is alive and it sure looks like she can comminicate. There is no living will she what the husband said. I have no understanding for this kind of cruelty is obvious this man just thinks of his wife as a burden. He has gone on with his life,let her go on with her life. Terri has a life her parents friends the world that cares about her. I would say she has more love and support then he we ever know. Go on with your life and let terri have hers. Wake up people who has a right to say what kind of life you have. This is so insane that a judge that we look up to for help is willing to let them pull her feeding tube. Starving a person to death thats reality is cruel painful and barbaric. This husband has NOT done everything possible for his wife. He has made it so that she is isolated from the world so she will die of loniness. He wants to kill her one way or other. Kill thats what he will be doing lets not sugarcoat this with some medical term. Judges will also be guilty of her death. We need to speak up for terri till she can. If you read this please call your state the state of florida we need to help save her.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Michael afraid of?  Afraid Terri will get better and spill the beans of what really happened.  Sounds like the fight they had is still lingering on.  Who knows.  Maybe he was having an affair with his current mistress and that&#039;s what the fight was about.  Maybe he pushed her and now look where&#039;s she&#039;s at.  Just a speculation.  If he wants a divorce then give it to him.  Just keep &quot;her&quot; money in the hands of her family.  I mean if that&#039;s all he supposedly wants is to be able to marry someone else, then fine but then the money shouldn&#039;t be his anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What's Michael afraid of?  Afraid Terri will get better and spill the beans of what really happened.  Sounds like the fight they had is still lingering on.  Who knows.  Maybe he was having an affair with his current mistress and that's what the fight was about.  Maybe he pushed her and now look where's she's at.  Just a speculation.  If he wants a divorce then give it to him.  Just keep "her" money in the hands of her family.  I mean if that's all he supposedly wants is to be able to marry someone else, then fine but then the money shouldn't be his anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye carumba! Note to self: make a living will so that I am not subjected to 15+ years of hospital beds, legal battles and unfathomable pain.

Also: Potassium imbalance is the official cause of her heart attack. Any rumour of another cause is unsubstatiated and seems designed to curry favour for the parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye carumba! Note to self: make a living will so that I am not subjected to 15+ years of hospital beds, legal battles and unfathomable pain.</p>
<p>Also: Potassium imbalance is the official cause of her heart attack. Any rumour of another cause is unsubstatiated and seems designed to curry favour for the parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, it sounds to me like the only reason you support Terri being killed is because &quot;right to lifers who misread the bible&quot; support her right to live.  

Guess what, there are a LOT MORE people who aren&#039;t in the convenient little box you&#039;ve put them in who fervently believe Terri Schiavo ought to be given the chance at rehabilitation and life.  (I don&#039;t even claim a denomination other than general non-evangelical Christian.) 

It&#039;s disgusting how the ANTI-LIFE people have politicized the issue.  She&#039;s a human being, not a political poster child.  But you can be sure she will be one, if she is &quot;put down&quot; like a dog.  And mark my words, the pro-life movement will get even stronger, as you will undoubtedly regret, if that happens.

The &quot;cruelty&quot; she suffers is at the hands of those who DENY HER any rehabilitation--that being her so-called husband.  

You&#039;d look like less of an ass if you&#039;d just take some time and look at the other side of the story, as millions of others have (and changed their opinions) instead of basing your opinion on knee-jerk political reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, it sounds to me like the only reason you support Terri being killed is because "right to lifers who misread the bible" support her right to live.  </p>
<p>Guess what, there are a LOT MORE people who aren't in the convenient little box you've put them in who fervently believe Terri Schiavo ought to be given the chance at rehabilitation and life.  (I don't even claim a denomination other than general non-evangelical Christian.) </p>
<p>It's disgusting how the ANTI-LIFE people have politicized the issue.  She's a human being, not a political poster child.  But you can be sure she will be one, if she is "put down" like a dog.  And mark my words, the pro-life movement will get even stronger, as you will undoubtedly regret, if that happens.</p>
<p>The "cruelty" she suffers is at the hands of those who DENY HER any rehabilitation--that being her so-called husband.  </p>
<p>You'd look like less of an ass if you'd just take some time and look at the other side of the story, as millions of others have (and changed their opinions) instead of basing your opinion on knee-jerk political reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love that Michael Schiavo logic.  Let&#039;s kill Terri because she&#039;s already dead, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; because she&#039;s alive but suffering.  Rest assured she &lt;i&gt;won&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; suffer from being starved to death, seeing as she&#039;s already dead.

I&#039;m beginning to think that God &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; make a rock so heavy even he can&#039;t lift it.  The only thing the near-omnipotent one cannot do is make an argument so bad no Michael Schiavo apologist will use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love that Michael Schiavo logic.  Let's kill Terri because she's already dead, <i>and</i> because she's alive but suffering.  Rest assured she <i>won't</i> suffer from being starved to death, seeing as she's already dead.</p>
<p>I'm beginning to think that God <i>can</i> make a rock so heavy even he can't lift it.  The only thing the near-omnipotent one cannot do is make an argument so bad no Michael Schiavo apologist will use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Gries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Gries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody ever wondered whether Terri&#039;s grimaces and other actions are PAIN, and that she is undergoing what is called &quot;inhumane pain and suffering,&quot; and this is being lengthened and imposed by her parents.

Of course, her parents have become the dupes or just merely aligned themselves with the right-to-lifers that misread the bible (lower case intended) to find some mystical justification for their mental misfunctions and inability to deal with the actual physical world and others who can think for themselves.

The right-to-lifers conveniently forget to demonstrate against wars inititated by the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice quartet that are driving our society and economy into the pits.

Now, we see some techno-babble and false science expressed above.  The matter is that Terri is being subjected to cruelty, and the only proper natural process is to pull the plug.  If she survives through god, then the bible-bangers will have proved their point. Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody ever wondered whether Terri's grimaces and other actions are PAIN, and that she is undergoing what is called "inhumane pain and suffering," and this is being lengthened and imposed by her parents.</p>
<p>Of course, her parents have become the dupes or just merely aligned themselves with the right-to-lifers that misread the bible (lower case intended) to find some mystical justification for their mental misfunctions and inability to deal with the actual physical world and others who can think for themselves.</p>
<p>The right-to-lifers conveniently forget to demonstrate against wars inititated by the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice quartet that are driving our society and economy into the pits.</p>
<p>Now, we see some techno-babble and false science expressed above.  The matter is that Terri is being subjected to cruelty, and the only proper natural process is to pull the plug.  If she survives through god, then the bible-bangers will have proved their point. Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dortignac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Dortignac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much misinformation is still floating around, causing some to react in a &quot;pro pull the plug&quot; response. For instance, Andrew Sommers in his &#039;Concise Background&quot; states that Terri is a victim of a potassium imbalance which caused a heart attack. This is impossible, since the tests run in the emergency room showed no heart attack. This rumor was floated early on, when the medical records were sealed, but in 2003 the reports surfaced and show the falacy of any heart stoppage actually occuring. 
Secondly, Andrew states that Terri cannnot eat or swallow. If this were true, she would constantly have drool running down her face. Liquid is the hardest thing to swallow correctly and Terri has been swallowing approximately two quarts a day with no problem. Dr. Hammesfahr, a renouned nuerologist who specialises in rehabilitating brain damage victims and who conducted a two day examination of Terry said that the feeding tube is merely a convenience.

Terri has been classified as being in a PVS. 

You may find it interesting to know that the two doctors who came to this conclusion, did so based on ten minute examinations, (which could very well have occured while Terri was drugged), since the examinations were ordered by those who have consistently desired her death, (Michael Schiavo, Greer and Felos), and who had the control to arrange such &quot;medical treatment&quot; prior to exam time. Furthermore, as has been cited in more than one comment above, numerous medical professionals have a different opinion, which, by the way, has never been entertained by the court.

If you really want to understand this case, their is plenty of documentation available. I would recommend &quot;The Empire Journal&quot;   www.empirejournal.com as good place to start. Hyscience is an excellent resource as well. But if you just want to rant about this &quot;vegetable&quot;, and say she&#039;s already dead, go ahead, those of us who have looked into it will pity your ignorance though, and misinformation like that could have a profound impact on your own end of life decision some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much misinformation is still floating around, causing some to react in a "pro pull the plug" response. For instance, Andrew Sommers in his 'Concise Background" states that Terri is a victim of a potassium imbalance which caused a heart attack. This is impossible, since the tests run in the emergency room showed no heart attack. This rumor was floated early on, when the medical records were sealed, but in 2003 the reports surfaced and show the falacy of any heart stoppage actually occuring.<br />
Secondly, Andrew states that Terri cannnot eat or swallow. If this were true, she would constantly have drool running down her face. Liquid is the hardest thing to swallow correctly and Terri has been swallowing approximately two quarts a day with no problem. Dr. Hammesfahr, a renouned nuerologist who specialises in rehabilitating brain damage victims and who conducted a two day examination of Terry said that the feeding tube is merely a convenience.</p>
<p>Terri has been classified as being in a PVS. </p>
<p>You may find it interesting to know that the two doctors who came to this conclusion, did so based on ten minute examinations, (which could very well have occured while Terri was drugged), since the examinations were ordered by those who have consistently desired her death, (Michael Schiavo, Greer and Felos), and who had the control to arrange such "medical treatment" prior to exam time. Furthermore, as has been cited in more than one comment above, numerous medical professionals have a different opinion, which, by the way, has never been entertained by the court.</p>
<p>If you really want to understand this case, their is plenty of documentation available. I would recommend "The Empire Journal"   <a href="http://www.empirejournal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.empirejournal.com</a> as good place to start. Hyscience is an excellent resource as well. But if you just want to rant about this "vegetable", and say she's already dead, go ahead, those of us who have looked into it will pity your ignorance though, and misinformation like that could have a profound impact on your own end of life decision some day.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Outraged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negative, Joanne -- when the &quot;we say&quot; points are actually refuted by the &quot;they say&quot; points, and not merely argued to stalemate, then there is no stalemate, and &quot;they&quot; win the argument.  I came across &quot;their&quot; opinions time and again, and dismissed them too, but no longer.

She may or may not have responded *initially*, but the fact is that she&#039;s responding *now*.  So what if it took her brain a while to start regenerating?  Does that mean the husband can decide to kill her NOW?

On the money: first, he&#039;s spent $500,000 of the $1.7 million settlement on lawyers trying to cruise her along toward starvation, part of it on him and his new girlfriend, and a fraction of whatever&#039;s left on a token effort at Terri&#039;s rehab.  And sure, by now the money may be &quot;running out&quot;, but is money a standard we use to determine when someone needs to live or die?  Is it time to starve them when the &quot;cash runs out?&quot; By that logic, you can speed anyone along to death just by spending their money on dubious items without their consent. (&quot;Sorry honey, these right-to-die legal fees and expenses on the new girlfriend are eating me alive.  No more food for you.&quot;)

The &quot;legal standing&quot; argument is a canard that ignores the husband&#039;s demonstrated patterns of abusive behavior and inherent conflicts of interest, as well as the parents&#039; willingness to take on the burden of care for their child.  His legal standing is based on a hearsay claim that materialized *after* he got the $1.7 mil.  At this point, the Terri Schiavo case is a case for CSI Tampa, not euthanasia court.  (This is where the press has been weak IMHO.)

Lastly, under the old line of B.S., some of us &quot;evildoers&quot; would have been okay with letting the husband pull the plug on her  assuming (1) there was a plug to pull and (2) she was never coming out of her coma (or inhumane suffering of an obvious kind).

Apparently there&#039;s no plug, and there&#039;s no coma either, nor any inhumane suffering (except what the husband is about to put her through).  Please forgive us.  We were lied to.

Now that the husband&#039;s little boondoggle has been exposed as a fraud, what&#039;s going to happen to him?  And what&#039;s going to happen to Terri?  I think the public will be on her side if the word gets out.  But it&#039;d better happen QUICKLY if her execution is going to be stayed/re-evaluated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negative, Joanne -- when the "we say" points are actually refuted by the "they say" points, and not merely argued to stalemate, then there is no stalemate, and "they" win the argument.  I came across "their" opinions time and again, and dismissed them too, but no longer.</p>
<p>She may or may not have responded *initially*, but the fact is that she's responding *now*.  So what if it took her brain a while to start regenerating?  Does that mean the husband can decide to kill her NOW?</p>
<p>On the money: first, he's spent $500,000 of the $1.7 million settlement on lawyers trying to cruise her along toward starvation, part of it on him and his new girlfriend, and a fraction of whatever's left on a token effort at Terri's rehab.  And sure, by now the money may be "running out", but is money a standard we use to determine when someone needs to live or die?  Is it time to starve them when the "cash runs out?" By that logic, you can speed anyone along to death just by spending their money on dubious items without their consent. ("Sorry honey, these right-to-die legal fees and expenses on the new girlfriend are eating me alive.  No more food for you.")</p>
<p>The "legal standing" argument is a canard that ignores the husband's demonstrated patterns of abusive behavior and inherent conflicts of interest, as well as the parents' willingness to take on the burden of care for their child.  His legal standing is based on a hearsay claim that materialized *after* he got the $1.7 mil.  At this point, the Terri Schiavo case is a case for CSI Tampa, not euthanasia court.  (This is where the press has been weak IMHO.)</p>
<p>Lastly, under the old line of B.S., some of us "evildoers" would have been okay with letting the husband pull the plug on her  assuming (1) there was a plug to pull and (2) she was never coming out of her coma (or inhumane suffering of an obvious kind).</p>
<p>Apparently there's no plug, and there's no coma either, nor any inhumane suffering (except what the husband is about to put her through).  Please forgive us.  We were lied to.</p>
<p>Now that the husband's little boondoggle has been exposed as a fraud, what's going to happen to him?  And what's going to happen to Terri?  I think the public will be on her side if the word gets out.  But it'd better happen QUICKLY if her execution is going to be stayed/re-evaluated.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;ve read extensively the information put out over the net re: the Terry Schiavo controversery, I have just come across some opinions on a different side of this sad case.

. husband real victim
- wife died 15 years ago
- husband cast as villain for wanting to pull the 
  plug and get on with his life
- Schindlers have no legal standing
- many forms of rehabilitation were attempted in 
  first yrs. of condition; she did not respond or
  recover
- nearly all the settlement has now been spent on
  rehabilitation attempts and continual care

Where&#039;s the truth?  Sounds like a &quot;we say, they say&quot; situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I've read extensively the information put out over the net re: the Terry Schiavo controversery, I have just come across some opinions on a different side of this sad case.</p>
<p>. husband real victim<br />
- wife died 15 years ago<br />
- husband cast as villain for wanting to pull the<br />
  plug and get on with his life<br />
- Schindlers have no legal standing<br />
- many forms of rehabilitation were attempted in<br />
  first yrs. of condition; she did not respond or<br />
  recover<br />
- nearly all the settlement has now been spent on<br />
  rehabilitation attempts and continual care</p>
<p>Where's the truth?  Sounds like a "we say, they say" situation.</p>
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