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	<title>Comments on: Basra Tactics, Strategy, and Theory in Conflict</title>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/basra_tactics_strategy_and_theory_in_conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-314177</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What was that slogan all the Bush ass kissers were so fond of a while back… “When they stand up, we’ll stand down”. Great, now our fate is out of our hands.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It always was, following the attack... because anything less gives us the less than happy alternatives of the Islamic extremists winning power, or  of directly dictating the happenings.
Not everything can be accomplished by government fiat.

And in case nobody has noticed, Sadr has once again withdrawn. Tell me again, please, who is losing in Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What was that slogan all the Bush ass kissers were so fond of a while back… “When they stand up, we&rsquo;ll stand down”. Great, now our fate is out of our hands.</p></blockquote>
<p>It always was, following the attack... because anything less gives us the less than happy alternatives of the Islamic extremists winning power, or  of directly dictating the happenings.<br />
Not everything can be accomplished by government fiat.</p>
<p>And in case nobody has noticed, Sadr has once again withdrawn. Tell me again, please, who is losing in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is the explanation — however, the stupid party here is Bush. Because of Bush’s idiotic decision to invade Iraq, it is perfectly rational for Maliki to act on the offensive against his adversaries&quot; ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"This is the explanation — however, the stupid party here is Bush. Because of Bush&rsquo;s idiotic decision to invade Iraq, it is perfectly rational for Maliki to act on the offensive against his adversaries" ????</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s the elected government, folks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So I guess when the elected government of Iraq says its time for our boys to go fight and die, off they go.

What was that slogan all the Bush ass kissers were so fond of a while back... &quot;When they stand up, we&#039;ll stand down&quot;. Great, now our fate is out of our hands.

Guess what, these guys are not going to stand up, at least in the way we define it. Not next week, not next month, not next year. How many of our troops have to die while we wait for an event that will never happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That&rsquo;s the elected government, folks.</p></blockquote>
<p>So I guess when the elected government of Iraq says its time for our boys to go fight and die, off they go.</p>
<p>What was that slogan all the Bush ass kissers were so fond of a while back... "When they stand up, we'll stand down". Great, now our fate is out of our hands.</p>
<p>Guess what, these guys are not going to stand up, at least in the way we define it. Not next week, not next month, not next year. How many of our troops have to die while we wait for an event that will never happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quagmire???  Saddam ousted, al Qaeda defeated, or nearly so.  Light casualties considering how long the conflict.  Quadmire was Anzio.  Idiots quit before the fight is won.  Seems there are folks here who are not willing to fight except with their mouths who oppose any action by the United States with concern to world problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quagmire???  Saddam ousted, al Qaeda defeated, or nearly so.  Light casualties considering how long the conflict.  Quadmire was Anzio.  Idiots quit before the fight is won.  Seems there are folks here who are not willing to fight except with their mouths who oppose any action by the United States with concern to world problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ultimately, “It’s a way of life for the Iraqi government. They do stupid things that put our troops at risk for their own political benefit because they know that American troops will step into the breech and cover their asses. ”

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the explanation--however, the stupid party here is  Bush.  Because of Bush&#039;s idiotic decision to invade Iraq, it is perfectly rational for Maliki to act on the offensive against his adversaries.  

Maliki can engage in a gambit to weaken his adversaries precisely because he knows that Bush HAS to act.  

Because Bush is so consumed with his own ego and legacy and an inability to come to terms with his  failure in decisionmaking, he is the stupid one. 

Although, Im less inclined to think Bush is stupid--rather he just can&#039;t see beyond his failings and since he bears no costs for reckless decisions, he doesn&#039;t care that US troops will be sacrificed as we get  more bogged down in a quagmire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ultimately, “It&rsquo;s a way of life for the Iraqi government. They do stupid things that put our troops at risk for their own political benefit because they know that American troops will step into the breech and cover their asses. ”</p>
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<p>This is the explanation--however, the stupid party here is  Bush.  Because of Bush's idiotic decision to invade Iraq, it is perfectly rational for Maliki to act on the offensive against his adversaries.  </p>
<p>Maliki can engage in a gambit to weaken his adversaries precisely because he knows that Bush HAS to act.  </p>
<p>Because Bush is so consumed with his own ego and legacy and an inability to come to terms with his  failure in decisionmaking, he is the stupid one. </p>
<p>Although, Im less inclined to think Bush is stupid--rather he just can't see beyond his failings and since he bears no costs for reckless decisions, he doesn't care that US troops will be sacrificed as we get  more bogged down in a quagmire.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so wonderful to see all the highly esteemed arm chair generals tell those on-site how to do their job.

Next thing you know they will decide that the sun should come up in the west.

Just shut the hell up and stop being a part of the problem!  None of you have managed to do anything that is either constructive or part of any solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so wonderful to see all the highly esteemed arm chair generals tell those on-site how to do their job.</p>
<p>Next thing you know they will decide that the sun should come up in the west.</p>
<p>Just shut the hell up and stop being a part of the problem!  None of you have managed to do anything that is either constructive or part of any solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Moomaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Moomaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maliki: &quot;OK, then I dare ya to step across THAT line!&quot;: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89176773&amp;ft=1&amp;f=1001 .  Well, given the quality of our current leadership, I suppose it was about time for this war to start openly mimicking Warner Brothers cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maliki: "OK, then I dare ya to step across THAT line!": <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89176773&amp;ft=1&amp;f=1001" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89176773&amp;ft=1&amp;f=1001</a> .  Well, given the quality of our current leadership, I suppose it was about time for this war to start openly mimicking Warner Brothers cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin, would the removal of Saddam qualify?  Or do you still support the dictator?  Did you sell him the wood chippers he used to dispose of his enemies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin, would the removal of Saddam qualify?  Or do you still support the dictator?  Did you sell him the wood chippers he used to dispose of his enemies?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;for all the United States has invested in Iraq — and in propping up Maliki — we’ve gotten very little in return in this particular episode&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could you share with us any &quot;episode&quot; in Iraq that has given us a decent return for our investment in blood and national treasure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>for all the United States has invested in Iraq — and in propping up Maliki — we&rsquo;ve gotten very little in return in this particular episode</p></blockquote>
<p>Could you share with us any "episode" in Iraq that has given us a decent return for our investment in blood and national treasure?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In fact he is merely acting on behalf of an emerging alignment of pro-Iranian forces in Iraq that have successfully pulled the wool over American eyes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the elected government, folks.
What would the reaction be if Bush played it otherwise, do you suppose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fact he is merely acting on behalf of an emerging alignment of pro-Iranian forces in Iraq that have successfully pulled the wool over American eyes.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's the elected government, folks.<br />
What would the reaction be if Bush played it otherwise, do you suppose?</p>
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		<title>By: WR</title>
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		<dc:creator>WR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t know what Maliki&#039;s objectives are -- but we&#039;re killing the people who oppose him and any bystanders who get in the way.

That pretty much sums up the Bush doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't know what Maliki's objectives are -- but we're killing the people who oppose him and any bystanders who get in the way.</p>
<p>That pretty much sums up the Bush doctrine.</p>
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