Sort of like the oil industry...

Are you being deliberately mendacious? No, not at all like the oil industry. Yes the oil industry receives very nice subsidies, but nobody would believe you if you were to assert that the oil industry wouldn't still be huge without them. Solar, wind, etc. wouldn't exist in their current state without various mandates and subsidies.

So no, not at all like the oil industry. Even trying to assert that makes you look like a foolish liar. So don't do it.

In what other area has dissent been more ruthlessly squashe

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Well bit you are still unable to come up with a single instance of the ruthless suppression you have been carrying on about.

Guess its one more thing that exists only in your imagination.

Guys used to say that kind of thing when I was a teenager

Of that I have little doubt. They're still saying it. Perhaps it's soemthing you never grew out of.

I am

making fun of you because your arguments are a joke.

Well, it'd help if I didn't need to translate it to what little vocab you will understand. It's my experience also, that anything outside your narrow worldview, you think a joke.

You really seem to enjoy bandying "nazi" around. I ask you to consider the sacrifices made by those who fought the actual nazis, and treat the subject with a bit more respect

I am in fact treating the subject with the utmost in respoct. I'm tryig to make sure we don't end up having to go throuhg such again. The Nazi movement was a leftist movement, you see.

Consider your own response to me.

I am making fun of you because your arguments are a joke. If that makes me a nazi in your eyes, so be it. If you want people to take you seriously, present intelligent arguments and back them up, dont spout dogma.

Seriously Bit, stuff like:

Actually, it's more I don't have the amount of headache meds needed to explain the obvious to you.

Guys used to say that kind of thing when I was a teenager. But not all that often, because it was deemed weak even when we were kids.

You really seem to enjoy bandying "nazi" around. I ask you to consider the sacrifices made by those who fought the actual nazis, and treat the subject with a bit more respect. Remember what day it is.

Consider your own response to me.

Do you really consider that Nazi tactics are limited to violence?

Still waiting for even a single example of the nazi-esque suppression of dissent you were raving about. Really dude, just one... Something tells me you can't produce one.

You bandy "nazi" around, then you cannot produce an iota of substance to back up your claim. Where I come from we call that "punking out" Are you a punk, Bit?

As for headache meds, clearly you are only dancing so fast because you cannot back up you arguments. Run awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Yea, Exxon and Chevron are only making the greatest profits in the history of capitalism. Clearly they have no power.

Thanks for the holiday comic relief.

Sort of a typical, lame ass, I don't have an answer answer.

Actually, it's more I don't have the amount of headache meds needed to explain the obvious to you."

The oil companies have vast power and influence in this country

Again, Exxon/Mobil made $40b in 2007. THe taxes paid were over $100b. I'd say offhand, that any org that records profits of only 40% of what they're being taxed, clearly isn't very powerful.

Grewgills is quite correct. This type of hysterical use of "nazi" does a great disservice to the memory of actual nazi victims. It is an obstacle to rational political discourse, and an insult to the actual study of history.

And of course if you following in their footsteps you don't wanna here that term used ether.

Let us also not forget that solar is also heavily subsidized

Sort of like the oil industry...

They work well and they more than pay for themselves over time. Of course I live in California, where we have plenty of sunshine,....

Let us also not forget that solar is also heavily subsidized in California.

No wonder you are in the camp you are in, you refuse to read.

Got any more strawmen you want to put down while you ignore the subsistence of what I said and completely ignore my comments about being in the free lunch economics school.

In what other area has dissent been more ruthlessly squashed?

Please provide even a single example of this ruthless squashing of dissent - even one...

Clearly, you would do well to study your history a bit more completely than your government school can have afforded you.

Sort of a typical, lame ass, I don't have an answer answer. I read Churchill's "The Second World War" (yes all 6 volumes), The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich, "Inside the Third Reich" and so on before I was 15. Please Bit, try to come up with responses that are at least semi-intelligent.

The oil companies have vast power and influence in this country. To say that they and their supporters are not free to present arguments in favor of domestic drilling is beyond idiotic. Have you not been doing so in this very thread? Have the brown shirts kicked your door in and dragged you off?

While we are on the subject, what is the deal your nazi fetish?

How many semis loads can fit into a flat car or boxcar?

You're forgetting the issues of profit and man hours. How many dollars does it take to transfer freight from trucks to boxcars? More than it costs to run the truck directly in.

Nazi shut down discussion by force of arms

Not always, and particularly, not on the leading edge of the movement.

What does an argument "designed to shut down all discussion" have to do with nazis?

Clearly, you would do well to study your history a bit more completely than your government school can have afforded you.