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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_conference_call_with_peter_robertson/comment-page-1/#comment-373265</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Start with the things that will yield immediate results and work our way out from there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only conservation can produce immediate results, everything else requires the establishment of new infrastructures and processes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Our strategy has to be both long term and short term in nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree, and we need multiple levels of each.  Shortest term we need conservation, near term we need more efficient fossil fuel production, long term we need renewable sources, longest term we need nuclear, especially fusion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Throw out the climate change nonsense and get serious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only if it isn&#039;t nonsense, then it is a very real concern that needs to be dealt with when discussing the cost of our energy sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Start with the things that will yield immediate results and work our way out from there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only conservation can produce immediate results, everything else requires the establishment of new infrastructures and processes.</p>
<blockquote><p>Our strategy has to be both long term and short term in nature.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, and we need multiple levels of each.  Shortest term we need conservation, near term we need more efficient fossil fuel production, long term we need renewable sources, longest term we need nuclear, especially fusion.</p>
<blockquote><p>Throw out the climate change nonsense and get serious.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only if it isn't nonsense, then it is a very real concern that needs to be dealt with when discussing the cost of our energy sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_conference_call_with_peter_robertson/comment-page-1/#comment-373229</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You talk about serious money being invested in these alternatives, yet you don&#039;t mention what governmental retribution will cost them if they don&#039;t. They&#039;re simply taking the cheaper route.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Market forces at work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You talk about serious money being invested in these alternatives, yet you don't mention what governmental retribution will cost them if they don't. They're simply taking the cheaper route.</p></blockquote>
<p>Market forces at work :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_conference_call_with_peter_robertson/comment-page-1/#comment-373190</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But the government they can do something about, oil will pretty much remain the same.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How? Buying them off?
Or simply placating them, as I suspect they are now?

You talk about serious money being invested in these alternatives, yet you don&#039;t mention what governmental retribution will cost them if they don&#039;t. They&#039;re simply taking the cheaper route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But the government they can do something about, oil will pretty much remain the same.</p></blockquote>
<p>How? Buying them off?<br />
Or simply placating them, as I suspect they are now?</p>
<p>You talk about serious money being invested in these alternatives, yet you don't mention what governmental retribution will cost them if they don't. They're simply taking the cheaper route.</p>
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		<title>By: steveplunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveplunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a hundred 1% solutions, not a single silver bullet that will save us.  Drilling, more refineries, alternative liquid fuels, nuclear, wind, solar, conservation, new technologies, things we can&#039;t even imagine yet.

Start with the things that will yield immediate results and work our way out from there.  Our strategy has to be both long term and short term in nature.  Throw out the climate change nonsense and get serious.

What frustrates me more than anything is the total lack of attention (other than made for TV hearings) from congress and, yes, the President.  Nobody inside that damn beltway seems to give a crap about what this is doing to our economy and the American people.

For gosh sakes I&#039;m not that smart but I could do better than all the brainiacs on the hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a hundred 1% solutions, not a single silver bullet that will save us.  Drilling, more refineries, alternative liquid fuels, nuclear, wind, solar, conservation, new technologies, things we can't even imagine yet.</p>
<p>Start with the things that will yield immediate results and work our way out from there.  Our strategy has to be both long term and short term in nature.  Throw out the climate change nonsense and get serious.</p>
<p>What frustrates me more than anything is the total lack of attention (other than made for TV hearings) from congress and, yes, the President.  Nobody inside that damn beltway seems to give a crap about what this is doing to our economy and the American people.</p>
<p>For gosh sakes I'm not that smart but I could do better than all the brainiacs on the hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of the two, particularly given what taxes are taken from oil, government seems even to this outsider, the bigger threat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But the government they can do something about, oil will pretty much remain the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of the two, particularly given what taxes are taken from oil, government seems even to this outsider, the bigger threat.</p></blockquote>
<p>But the government they can do something about, oil will pretty much remain the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They didn&#039;t make $72 billion by being short-sighted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Indeed, And about that, thee oil companies seem under two nthreats... the realities of oil and the reality of government.

Of the two, particularly given what taxes are taken from oil, government seems even to this outsider, the bigger threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They didn't make $72 billion by being short-sighted.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, And about that, thee oil companies seem under two nthreats... the realities of oil and the reality of government.</p>
<p>Of the two, particularly given what taxes are taken from oil, government seems even to this outsider, the bigger threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One wonders if he&#039;s not mouthing this beacuse of the regulatory realities, both current and near future, given the prospects of the democrats in the next cycle. If he&#039;s not making noises about conservation, after all, he and his company will be roasted at congressional hearings,a nd subject to yet further regulation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;They&#039;re putting real money behind those initiatives, so I think it&#039;s more than just talk.  These guys don&#039;t want to be in the horse and buggy industry, so when they see the market shifting from fossil fuels to a mixture of renewables, they&#039;re going to make sure they&#039;re positioned to make money in that market.  They didn&#039;t make $72 billion by being short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One wonders if he's not mouthing this beacuse of the regulatory realities, both current and near future, given the prospects of the democrats in the next cycle. If he's not making noises about conservation, after all, he and his company will be roasted at congressional hearings,a nd subject to yet further regulation.</p></blockquote>
<p>They're putting real money behind those initiatives, so I think it's more than just talk.  These guys don't want to be in the horse and buggy industry, so when they see the market shifting from fossil fuels to a mixture of renewables, they're going to make sure they're positioned to make money in that market.  They didn't make $72 billion by being short-sighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oil consumption in the US is actually going down&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which would be consistant with the on-hand reserves... both crude and distalates, being higher than they&#039;ve been in the last 15 years... a point I spent some time with here a couple weeks ago. On it&#039;s face, supply and demand would seem to suggest that a lowering of prices is in order. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;Much of that $73 billion was spent outside the U. S. and the reason that more wasn’t spent in the U. S. was what he referred to as “barriers to investment”—mostly government regulation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which would seem on it&#039;s face to match rather well with the quote I posted.
Hmmmm....


As for;

&lt;blockquote&gt;A propos of the discussion going on here if a top oil company executive tells me that efficiency and conservation are as or more important for reducing oil prices than developing new sources of oil (and more important in the near term), who am I to disagree?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One wonders if he&#039;s not mouthing this beacuse of the regulatory realities, both current and near future, given the prospects of the democrats in the next cycle. If he&#039;s not making noises about conservation, after all, he and his company will be roasted at congressional hearings,a nd subject to yet further regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oil consumption in the US is actually going down</p></blockquote>
<p>Which would be consistant with the on-hand reserves... both crude and distalates, being higher than they've been in the last 15 years... a point I spent some time with here a couple weeks ago. On it's face, supply and demand would seem to suggest that a lowering of prices is in order. </p>
<blockquote><p>Much of that $73 billion was spent outside the U. S. and the reason that more wasn&rsquo;t spent in the U. S. was what he referred to as “barriers to investment”—mostly government regulation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which would seem on it's face to match rather well with the quote I posted.<br />
Hmmmm....</p>
<p>As for;</p>
<blockquote><p>A propos of the discussion going on here if a top oil company executive tells me that efficiency and conservation are as or more important for reducing oil prices than developing new sources of oil (and more important in the near term), who am I to disagree?</p></blockquote>
<p>One wonders if he's not mouthing this beacuse of the regulatory realities, both current and near future, given the prospects of the democrats in the next cycle. If he's not making noises about conservation, after all, he and his company will be roasted at congressional hearings,a nd subject to yet further regulation.</p>
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