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		<title>By: jpe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141291</link>
		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amused anyone thought that this wasn&#039;t anything but a guild of sorts.  Presumably, they&#039;d band together to pool risk for insurance and negotiate group advertising rates.  Makes sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm amused anyone thought that this wasn't anything but a guild of sorts.  Presumably, they'd band together to pool risk for insurance and negotiate group advertising rates.  Makes sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141257</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think this story illustrates one of the more annoying aspects of so many blogs and their &quot;reporting&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fair to an extent, although most of us don&#039;t claim to be reporters.  This is, after all, based on a story by the vaunted Associated Press, so it presuming that it was basically accurate is a reasonable starting point.

Unlike most of the MSM, once information comes to light that the basis of our commentary is faulty, most of us will at least quickly and prominently note and cite the contrary evidence, rather than launching a long &quot;investigation&quot; with results waiting until long after the damage is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think this story illustrates one of the more annoying aspects of so many blogs and their "reporting".</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair to an extent, although most of us don't claim to be reporters.  This is, after all, based on a story by the vaunted Associated Press, so it presuming that it was basically accurate is a reasonable starting point.</p>
<p>Unlike most of the MSM, once information comes to light that the basis of our commentary is faulty, most of us will at least quickly and prominently note and cite the contrary evidence, rather than launching a long "investigation" with results waiting until long after the damage is done.</p>
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		<title>By: And You Thought Herding Cats Was Tough &#187; The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141255</link>
		<dc:creator>And You Thought Herding Cats Was Tough &#187; The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unions&#8220;    Save and Share: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141254</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well actually Steve Verdon, Alex Knapp, Chris Lawrence, Dodd Harris, Robert Prather, Stephen Bainbridge, John Burgess, Richard Gardner, Kate McMillan, Greg Tinti, meself and a few others could possibly form a union.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True!  There&#039;d be some serious corporate downsizing were that to occur, however, owing to the paperwork problems having you go from &quot;independent contractors&quot; to &quot;employees&quot; would cause OTB Media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well actually Steve Verdon, Alex Knapp, Chris Lawrence, Dodd Harris, Robert Prather, Stephen Bainbridge, John Burgess, Richard Gardner, Kate McMillan, Greg Tinti, meself and a few others could possibly form a union.</p></blockquote>
<p>True!  There'd be some serious corporate downsizing were that to occur, however, owing to the paperwork problems having you go from "independent contractors" to "employees" would cause OTB Media.</p>
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		<title>By: rodney dill</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141253</link>
		<dc:creator>rodney dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well actually Steve Verdon, Alex Knapp, Chris Lawrence, Dodd Harris, Robert Prather, Stephen Bainbridge, John Burgess, Richard Gardner, Kate McMillan, Greg Tinti, meself and a few others could possibly form a union.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well actually Steve Verdon, Alex Knapp, Chris Lawrence, Dodd Harris, Robert Prather, Stephen Bainbridge, John Burgess, Richard Gardner, Kate McMillan, Greg Tinti, meself and a few others could possibly form a union.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141252</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this story illustrates one of the more annoying aspects of so many blogs and their &quot;reporting&quot;.

We get news of something that doesnt seem to make much sense. So what happens? Is there any effort made to actually figure out what this is all about before passing on the story? Or does the initial head-scratch become the story itself - opening the way for all the knees to jerk with snarky commentary on a subject that the commenter knows nothing about.

The latter of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this story illustrates one of the more annoying aspects of so many blogs and their "reporting".</p>
<p>We get news of something that doesnt seem to make much sense. So what happens? Is there any effort made to actually figure out what this is all about before passing on the story? Or does the initial head-scratch become the story itself - opening the way for all the knees to jerk with snarky commentary on a subject that the commenter knows nothing about.</p>
<p>The latter of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141251</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;UPDATE: Via Triumph (again) &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Screw a bloggers union--I am starting the Blog Commenters Local 1!

Its time to battle the oppression we endure from the evil bloggers!

Commenters Unite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>UPDATE: Via Triumph (again) </p></blockquote>
<p>Screw a bloggers union--I am starting the Blog Commenters Local 1!</p>
<p>Its time to battle the oppression we endure from the evil bloggers!</p>
<p>Commenters Unite!</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141249</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We’re working, too, to figure out a way to get group rates on insurance (right now we’re focusing on liability insurance to protect against libel and copyright violation suits but health insurance isn’t out of the realm of possibility).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that is what they were talking about at the Kos convention.  The AP reporter seemed to not quite get the point.

Suzie Madrak explains it at her site: http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/06/12/31/bloggity-blog/


This is one of those cases of a lazy reporter who doesn&#039;t understand the blogosphere trying to make a news story out of nothing.  

Because they are leftists, they use the &quot;union&quot; terminology, but the goals are identical to what you describe, James, about the Media Bloggers Association.  

Given that many bloggers are self-employed, it is useful to form organizations that can help them network and get decent rates on insurance, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We&rsquo;re working, too, to figure out a way to get group rates on insurance (right now we&rsquo;re focusing on liability insurance to protect against libel and copyright violation suits but health insurance isn&rsquo;t out of the realm of possibility).</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that is what they were talking about at the Kos convention.  The AP reporter seemed to not quite get the point.</p>
<p>Suzie Madrak explains it at her site: <a href="http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/06/12/31/bloggity-blog/" rel="nofollow">http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/06/12/31/bloggity-blog/</a></p>
<p>This is one of those cases of a lazy reporter who doesn't understand the blogosphere trying to make a news story out of nothing.  </p>
<p>Because they are leftists, they use the "union" terminology, but the goals are identical to what you describe, James, about the Media Bloggers Association.  </p>
<p>Given that many bloggers are self-employed, it is useful to form organizations that can help them network and get decent rates on insurance, etc...</p>
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		<title>By: M. Murcek</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141247</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Murcek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the potential union members are looking forward to calling non-union bloggers scabs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the potential union members are looking forward to calling non-union bloggers scabs...</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141243</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
What are they going to do… go on strike?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
One can only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
What are they going to do… go on strike?
</p></blockquote>
<p>One can only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Murcek</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141239</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Murcek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They (the bloggers&#039; union advocates) aren&#039;t looking for a good rate on insurance, they are looking for someone to provide it to them at no cost.  Being leftists, it&#039;s reasonable to assume that they have identified that someone as the taxpayer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They (the bloggers' union advocates) aren't looking for a good rate on insurance, they are looking for someone to provide it to them at no cost.  Being leftists, it's reasonable to assume that they have identified that someone as the taxpayer...</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/blogger_unions/comment-page-1/#comment-141234</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, you guys are a bunch of airheads alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, you guys are a bunch of airheads alright.</p>
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