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		<title>By: Liveblogging from Netroots Nation 2008 &#124; Make Something Happen</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-468202</link>
		<dc:creator>Liveblogging from Netroots Nation 2008 &#124; Make Something Happen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coverage of the decline in blogger profanity panel and thoughts on said coverage. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: $#!&#38; &#171; The Moor Next Door</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-465515</link>
		<dc:creator>$#!&#38; &#171; The Moor Next Door</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] July, 2008 by Nouri    Apparently, the &#8220;Netroots&#8221; crowd has some kind of historical problem managing its authors&#8217; collective [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-465229</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Bit managed to work Clinton into the rant too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Bit managed to work Clinton into the rant too...</p>
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		<title>By: Snark of the Day: Rasmussen &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-465114</link>
		<dc:creator>Snark of the Day: Rasmussen &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-465059</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That was the subject of the post, and as such my comment was directly responsive. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You attempted to shift a conversation about rough language on blogs into the left is childish and potty-mouthed.  The Cheney comment was in direct response to that.  As others and later you correctly note this is not a left-right issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That was the subject of the post, and as such my comment was directly responsive. </p></blockquote>
<p>You attempted to shift a conversation about rough language on blogs into the left is childish and potty-mouthed.  The Cheney comment was in direct response to that.  As others and later you correctly note this is not a left-right issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-464823</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You were actually the first one to try and make this a partisan thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope. Nice try, but who were we initially talking about? A group of leftie bloggers, remember?  That was the subject of the post, and as such my comment was directly responsive. 

Which, by the way is why I questioned bringing Cheney into it; It sounded... and still sounds... remarkably like Clinton&#039;s &quot;They all do it&quot; defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You were actually the first one to try and make this a partisan thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope. Nice try, but who were we initially talking about? A group of leftie bloggers, remember?  That was the subject of the post, and as such my comment was directly responsive. </p>
<p>Which, by the way is why I questioned bringing Cheney into it; It sounded... and still sounds... remarkably like Clinton's "They all do it" defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What&#039;s going on here, is the far left is figuring out that being childish doesn&#039;t sell...There are a larger portion of people in that grouping than in the general populace, who will not WANT to grow up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Clearly, it&#039;s not a left vs right thing, yet Cheney was the first thing that gets brought up. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You were actually the first one to try and make this a partisan thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What's going on here, is the far left is figuring out that being childish doesn't sell...There are a larger portion of people in that grouping than in the general populace, who will not WANT to grow up.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Clearly, it's not a left vs right thing, yet Cheney was the first thing that gets brought up. </p></blockquote>
<p>You were actually the first one to try and make this a partisan thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response was focused on the specific line in question. Clearly, it&#039;s not a left vs right thing, yet Cheney was the first thing that gets brought up. Why ya &#039;spose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response was focused on the specific line in question. Clearly, it's not a left vs right thing, yet Cheney was the first thing that gets brought up. Why ya 'spose?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite agree. It isn&#039;t left/right at all. Except lefties tend to be hypersensitive to any language that might be deemed somehow offensive to women or minorities, and righties tend to be hypersensitive to any good old Anglo Saxon word meaning &quot;to pierce&quot; or &quot;excrement&quot; or that refers to the genitals by a non-Latin name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite agree. It isn't left/right at all. Except lefties tend to be hypersensitive to any language that might be deemed somehow offensive to women or minorities, and righties tend to be hypersensitive to any good old Anglo Saxon word meaning "to pierce" or "excrement" or that refers to the genitals by a non-Latin name.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to make this into a left/right issues is laughable. The language on Kos is often embarrassing. Richard Nixon cursed like a sailor in the oval office. Nothing to see here folks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to make this into a left/right issues is laughable. The language on Kos is often embarrassing. Richard Nixon cursed like a sailor in the oval office. Nothing to see here folks...</p>
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		<title>By: Leisureguy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-463563</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisureguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;Washington Post&lt;/em&gt; story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; on the Cheney incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html" rel="nofollow">Here's the <em>Washington Post</em> story</a></strong> on the Cheney incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bloggers_not_swearing_so_bleeping_much/comment-page-1/#comment-463555</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Senator accused him of doing something unethical, if I remember right.

Personally, I&#039;m with Dr. Joyner on this one: I enjoy swearing, and I enjoy reading people who do it well. I have a real problem with bluenoses who haughtily and airily tell those of us who use the full expressiveness of the English language, with all its many words (including such rich and unobjectionable words as &quot;fuck&quot; and &quot;shit&quot;) that we are doing something wrong. I find people who use rich language to generally be as bright or brighter than people with sticks up their asses who sneer at anyone who dares use words they don&#039;t approve of.

That said, I don&#039;t allow swearing on my front page. I do allow it in the comments, but not on the front page. Why? Because certain bluenose-run companies block sites which contain the full richness of the English language from company web surfers, and I don&#039;t want readers of my blog to be blocked from reading it while on break or lunch at work because yet another snooty dorkwad decided they shouldn&#039;t be allowed to see the word &quot;fuck&quot; in print while they&#039;re at work.

A pox upon the bluenoses. But what can we do? We are so often at their mercy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Senator accused him of doing something unethical, if I remember right.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm with Dr. Joyner on this one: I enjoy swearing, and I enjoy reading people who do it well. I have a real problem with bluenoses who haughtily and airily tell those of us who use the full expressiveness of the English language, with all its many words (including such rich and unobjectionable words as "fuck" and "shit") that we are doing something wrong. I find people who use rich language to generally be as bright or brighter than people with sticks up their asses who sneer at anyone who dares use words they don't approve of.</p>
<p>That said, I don't allow swearing on my front page. I do allow it in the comments, but not on the front page. Why? Because certain bluenose-run companies block sites which contain the full richness of the English language from company web surfers, and I don't want readers of my blog to be blocked from reading it while on break or lunch at work because yet another snooty dorkwad decided they shouldn't be allowed to see the word "fuck" in print while they're at work.</p>
<p>A pox upon the bluenoses. But what can we do? We are so often at their mercy.</p>
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		<title>By: Swearing So F***ing Much &#8212; Dean&#8217;s World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swearing So F***ing Much &#8212; Dean&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner looks at the trend of salty-languaged bloggers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we seem focused on trying to turn this around into an attack on Republicans...(Apparently the only defense available fr the left anymore)...  and since context is so vital... what WAS the context of Cheney&#039;s remark? Anyone remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we seem focused on trying to turn this around into an attack on Republicans...(Apparently the only defense available fr the left anymore)...  and since context is so vital... what WAS the context of Cheney's remark? Anyone remember?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the liberal use of profanity is crass and often rude.

I don&#039;t run away screaming when I hear it used, but I do find that I avoid blogs where there is a lot of profanity.  

I think occassional swearing where the word is there specifically to make a point and is used rarely by the speaker isn&#039;t as troublesome, but writings or speech liberally peppered with cursing just makes me think the person needs to find a dictionary and a thesaurus and expand their vocabularies.

I think the problem with Cheney&#039;s use was the context-I can understand the frustration and anger that may have lead to the swear, but he also should have known better.  

I also find it hard to respect or see a person as a professional, when they are constantly swearing.  We were watching something on TV one time, and somebody in the course of the profession was talking to the customer and almost every other word was a swear word.  I remember thinking-I don&#039;t care how good they are at their job, I don&#039;t think I could go back to somebody who couldn&#039;t control their tongue.

So maybe I am a prude, but it doesn&#039;t bother me much on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the liberal use of profanity is crass and often rude.</p>
<p>I don't run away screaming when I hear it used, but I do find that I avoid blogs where there is a lot of profanity.  </p>
<p>I think occassional swearing where the word is there specifically to make a point and is used rarely by the speaker isn't as troublesome, but writings or speech liberally peppered with cursing just makes me think the person needs to find a dictionary and a thesaurus and expand their vocabularies.</p>
<p>I think the problem with Cheney's use was the context-I can understand the frustration and anger that may have lead to the swear, but he also should have known better.  </p>
<p>I also find it hard to respect or see a person as a professional, when they are constantly swearing.  We were watching something on TV one time, and somebody in the course of the profession was talking to the customer and almost every other word was a swear word.  I remember thinking-I don't care how good they are at their job, I don't think I could go back to somebody who couldn't control their tongue.</p>
<p>So maybe I am a prude, but it doesn't bother me much on this topic.</p>
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