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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the behavior of the Lacrosse players isn&#039;t all that different from what a lot of college students do and are capable of.

Most of what the players did, while not commendable, really isn&#039;t that far outside of the norm for many young men in the late teens, early twenties.  Drinking and sex are pretty standard for that age group, and I hiring strippers isn&#039;t illegal and I can easily see college age men hiring one.

Underage drinking was the only thing illegal that apparently happened that night, and the DA didn&#039;t even bother investigating or charging anyone for that, and that is a crime that goes on all the time at colleges everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the behavior of the Lacrosse players isn't all that different from what a lot of college students do and are capable of.</p>
<p>Most of what the players did, while not commendable, really isn't that far outside of the norm for many young men in the late teens, early twenties.  Drinking and sex are pretty standard for that age group, and I hiring strippers isn't illegal and I can easily see college age men hiring one.</p>
<p>Underage drinking was the only thing illegal that apparently happened that night, and the DA didn't even bother investigating or charging anyone for that, and that is a crime that goes on all the time at colleges everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the allegations were false.  But that doesn&#039;t excuse Yaeger for spending over 300 pages without once mentioning anything about the Finnerty assault allegations*--even as evidence in favor of the thesis that Nifong was fishing for suspects and Finnerty was thus an easy target.  The closest he comes is quoting someone else talking about &quot;Georgetown,&quot; which makes no sense unless you know the context.

Nor, come to think of it, does Yaeger go into Nifong&#039;s efforts to intimidate cabbie Moez Mustafa into changing his story about Reade Seligmann&#039;s alibi.  It&#039;s just bad reporting all around, in my opinion.

* After checking again, he does mention this in the timeline at the back of the book, but I don&#039;t remember anything about it in the body of the text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the allegations were false.  But that doesn't excuse Yaeger for spending over 300 pages without once mentioning anything about the Finnerty assault allegations*--even as evidence in favor of the thesis that Nifong was fishing for suspects and Finnerty was thus an easy target.  The closest he comes is quoting someone else talking about "Georgetown," which makes no sense unless you know the context.</p>
<p>Nor, come to think of it, does Yaeger go into Nifong's efforts to intimidate cabbie Moez Mustafa into changing his story about Reade Seligmann's alibi.  It's just bad reporting all around, in my opinion.</p>
<p>* After checking again, he does mention this in the timeline at the back of the book, but I don't remember anything about it in the body of the text.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One notable example: the allegations of assault and battery in Washington D.C. involving Collin Finnerty...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How is that relevant? How does the one incident play any sort of role the other? Or is it a case of showing what he&#039;s capable of, and so he must have done wrong in the present matter. When did being involved in an assault make one guilty of rape?

I know, that&#039;s not what you said. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not what you intended to imply. But, that&#039;s how i read it. A man capable of assaulting another man is capable of raping a woman, and therefor...

All an accusation means is that someone is thought to have done something. It is up to the justice system to determine if he has or not. An accusation is not a conviction. The three were found &lt;i&gt;innocent&lt;/i&gt; (my emphasis). Not only were they not responsible for any crime, there was no crime in the first place. Nothing happened, and the defendents were not responsible for what did not happen.

The accusations were false and it is time for you to acknowledge that fact and get on with your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One notable example: the allegations of assault and battery in Washington D.C. involving Collin Finnerty...</p></blockquote>
<p>How is that relevant? How does the one incident play any sort of role the other? Or is it a case of showing what he's capable of, and so he must have done wrong in the present matter. When did being involved in an assault make one guilty of rape?</p>
<p>I know, that's not what you said. I'm sure it's not what you intended to imply. But, that's how i read it. A man capable of assaulting another man is capable of raping a woman, and therefor...</p>
<p>All an accusation means is that someone is thought to have done something. It is up to the justice system to determine if he has or not. An accusation is not a conviction. The three were found <i>innocent</i> (my emphasis). Not only were they not responsible for any crime, there was no crime in the first place. Nothing happened, and the defendents were not responsible for what did not happen.</p>
<p>The accusations were false and it is time for you to acknowledge that fact and get on with your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;where for me its somewhere in the middle. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Expand on that.  Certainly hiring strippers for a party doesn&#039;t violate any laws, and they were completey exonerated of what they were charged with.

In my view, once it was clear these guys were being railroaded by Nifong it would be imprudent &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to become advocates on their behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>where for me its somewhere in the middle. </p></blockquote>
<p>Expand on that.  Certainly hiring strippers for a party doesn't violate any laws, and they were completey exonerated of what they were charged with.</p>
<p>In my view, once it was clear these guys were being railroaded by Nifong it would be imprudent <em>not</em> to become advocates on their behalf.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

If you are looking for an honest account of this case, I have serious doubts that KC will be the person to provide it.  I think that some of his reporting and investigating should be commended, but he has obviously become an advocate for the Lacrosse teams.  It seems that most people either believe that they did it or that they were some choir boys railroaded by the system, where for me its somewhere in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>If you are looking for an honest account of this case, I have serious doubts that KC will be the person to provide it.  I think that some of his reporting and investigating should be commended, but he has obviously become an advocate for the Lacrosse teams.  It seems that most people either believe that they did it or that they were some choir boys railroaded by the system, where for me its somewhere in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Signifying Nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signifying Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Duke lacrosse book review...&lt;/strong&gt;

As promised, the review is up at OTB. I wasn’t terribly impressed with the book, although I’d imagine that those less familiar with the case would think it was better....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Duke lacrosse book review...</strong></p>
<p>As promised, the review is up at OTB. I wasn&rsquo;t terribly impressed with the book, although I&rsquo;d imagine that those less familiar with the case would think it was better....</p>
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