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	<title>Comments on: Border Fence Will be Built by Defense Contractors</title>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/border_fence_will_be_built_by_defense_contractors/comment-page-1/#comment-83201</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 23:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was that&quot;defense contractors&quot; or &quot;de-fence contractors&quot;? will they hire illegal aliens to cut costs,especially since this sounds like &quot;the kind of job americans just won&#039;t do&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was that"defense contractors" or "de-fence contractors"? will they hire illegal aliens to cut costs,especially since this sounds like "the kind of job americans just won't do"?</p>
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		<title>By: GoHskrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoHskrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defense contractors can -- and do -- have their contracts terminated for non-performance.

Defense employees, not so much.  They often get promoted (and thus paid more) for non-performance.

There are taxpayer ripoffs going on, all right, but to blame only contractors misses the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defense contractors can -- and do -- have their contracts terminated for non-performance.</p>
<p>Defense employees, not so much.  They often get promoted (and thus paid more) for non-performance.</p>
<p>There are taxpayer ripoffs going on, all right, but to blame only contractors misses the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Ontario Emperor</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/border_fence_will_be_built_by_defense_contractors/comment-page-1/#comment-83170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ontario Emperor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not necessarily convinced that the use of contractors is a bad thing. One advantage can already be seen from the article above - the contractors have done some of this work before for other government agencies. What if each agency had to re-invent the wheel every time the same project had to be performed again?

Another benefit is that contracting this work minimizes disruptions to the government labor pool. If the governments were responsible for staffing these big projects themselves while continuing their regular work, then they&#039;d either have massive scheduling issues (to get that fence built, send the secretaries down to Yuma PRONTO!), or they&#039;d have to hire temporary government workers to do the job (and then it would be the GOVERNMENT who&#039;d be hiring the illegal aliens - the military does it &lt;a href=&quot;http://whatbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/felons-in-uniform.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all the time&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not necessarily convinced that the use of contractors is a bad thing. One advantage can already be seen from the article above - the contractors have done some of this work before for other government agencies. What if each agency had to re-invent the wheel every time the same project had to be performed again?</p>
<p>Another benefit is that contracting this work minimizes disruptions to the government labor pool. If the governments were responsible for staffing these big projects themselves while continuing their regular work, then they'd either have massive scheduling issues (to get that fence built, send the secretaries down to Yuma PRONTO!), or they'd have to hire temporary government workers to do the job (and then it would be the GOVERNMENT who'd be hiring the illegal aliens - the military does it <a href="http://whatbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/felons-in-uniform.html" rel="nofollow">all the time</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: leelu</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/border_fence_will_be_built_by_defense_contractors/comment-page-1/#comment-83139</link>
		<dc:creator>leelu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing will be brought to a screeching halt by the Sierra Club suit to protect the endangered Southwest Sand Gnat.

Wait for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing will be brought to a screeching halt by the Sierra Club suit to protect the endangered Southwest Sand Gnat.</p>
<p>Wait for it...</p>
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		<title>By: Eric J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pick June, 2007 for the first &quot;Border Fence Contractors Employ Illegal Immigrants&quot; headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pick June, 2007 for the first "Border Fence Contractors Employ Illegal Immigrants" headline.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>State&#039;s are the same.  Our state DOT is staffed primarily with engineers but almost all engineering work is contracted out.  To make it worse the outside contractors are usually ex-DOT people.

Until some sort of accountability is installed the taxpayers will continue to get ripped off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State's are the same.  Our state DOT is staffed primarily with engineers but almost all engineering work is contracted out.  To make it worse the outside contractors are usually ex-DOT people.</p>
<p>Until some sort of accountability is installed the taxpayers will continue to get ripped off.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindy R. Dole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindy R. Dole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haliburton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haliburton?</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should check with some former East German specialists in fortified borders for this project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should check with some former East German specialists in fortified borders for this project.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Senate Votes For 370-Mile Border Fence...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Senate voted to build 370 miles of triple-layered fencing along the Mexican border and clashed o...</description>
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<p>The Senate voted to build 370 miles of triple-layered fencing along the Mexican border and clashed o...</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/border_fence_will_be_built_by_defense_contractors/comment-page-1/#comment-83121</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been watching this fiscal charade and musical chair game being foisted on us by Congress and the Executive Branch for the past 15 years, starting with Algore&#039;s &quot;Reinventing the Government.&quot;  Now the federal government is expecting to lose more than 40% of its workforce in the next decade due to baby boomer retirement, and substituting them with wet behind the ears new college grads. Expect more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been watching this fiscal charade and musical chair game being foisted on us by Congress and the Executive Branch for the past 15 years, starting with Algore's "Reinventing the Government."  Now the federal government is expecting to lose more than 40% of its workforce in the next decade due to baby boomer retirement, and substituting them with wet behind the ears new college grads. Expect more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole government does that. NASA has few government scientists and engineers now, just about everything is done by contractors.

Amongst other things, it&#039;s way for politicians to show that they&#039;ve &quot;shrunk the size of government&quot; by transferring jobs to contractors. Of course the tax payer doesn&#039;t save anything. The job still has to be done, and IMO some of the big contractors are becoming arms of the government.

Of course the government needs industry to build weapons, vehicles and equipment, but when it turns to contractors to do administrative jobs and other jobs internal to government agencies, things have gone too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole government does that. NASA has few government scientists and engineers now, just about everything is done by contractors.</p>
<p>Amongst other things, it's way for politicians to show that they've "shrunk the size of government" by transferring jobs to contractors. Of course the tax payer doesn't save anything. The job still has to be done, and IMO some of the big contractors are becoming arms of the government.</p>
<p>Of course the government needs industry to build weapons, vehicles and equipment, but when it turns to contractors to do administrative jobs and other jobs internal to government agencies, things have gone too far.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Spam filtering help</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Spam filterning 101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spam filterning 101</dc:creator>
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