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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/boxer_to_general_senator_not_maam/comment-page-1/#comment-1067654</link>
		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: floyd June 18, 2009 20:27

So you&#039;ve joined Eric&#039;s stereotyping party, eh?  That will give you less integrity to whine about the practice when it is aimed at groups you are more favorable towards...also, nice try at twisting why I typed, but Eric&#039;s (and now your) stereotyping is what is pathetically typical... 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Look, guys, the bottom line here such stereotypes exist because they are so often and so blatantly true... as in this case. I dind&#039;t create the stereotype. I merely observe it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let us all remember this statement the next time anyone decides to unfairly paint all conservatives as narrow-minded neanderthals who are scared of every dark-skinned person who crosses their path and says, &quot;Boo!&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: floyd June 18, 2009 20:27</p>
<p>So you've joined Eric's stereotyping party, eh?  That will give you less integrity to whine about the practice when it is aimed at groups you are more favorable towards...also, nice try at twisting why I typed, but Eric's (and now your) stereotyping is what is pathetically typical... </p>
<blockquote><p>Look, guys, the bottom line here such stereotypes exist because they are so often and so blatantly true... as in this case. I dind't create the stereotype. I merely observe it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let us all remember this statement the next time anyone decides to unfairly paint all conservatives as narrow-minded neanderthals who are scared of every dark-skinned person who crosses their path and says, "Boo!"...</p>
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		<title>By: Shubham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shubham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part is, she will still win election next time. Who actually votes for her or Pelosi? 

What an arrogant personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is, she will still win election next time. Who actually votes for her or Pelosi? </p>
<p>What an arrogant personality.</p>
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		<title>By: Nightly Ramble: The Camper Edition &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/boxer_to_general_senator_not_maam/comment-page-1/#comment-1067328</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightly Ramble: The Camper Edition &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] saw the bit with  Babs &#8220;da Bitch&#8221; Boxer&#8230; And I use her title since she worked so hard to get it.  I figure the military has never been popular with the left anyway, so it it wasn&#8217;t a lack of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] saw the bit with  Babs &#8220;da Bitch&#8221; Boxer&#8230; And I use her title since she worked so hard to get it.  I figure the military has never been popular with the left anyway, so it it wasn&#8217;t a lack of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Without stereotypes, bits view of the world would simply cease to exist...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

heh. So, you&#039;re not trying to stereotype ME? 

Look, guys, the bottom line here such stereotypes exist because they are so often and so blatantly true... as in this case. I dind&#039;t create the stereotype. I merely observe it. If you can&#039;t handle that, maybe a word or two with Boxer to get her to stop being such a stereotypical bitch would be in order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Without stereotypes, bits view of the world would simply cease to exist...</p></blockquote>
<p>heh. So, you're not trying to stereotype ME? </p>
<p>Look, guys, the bottom line here such stereotypes exist because they are so often and so blatantly true... as in this case. I dind't create the stereotype. I merely observe it. If you can't handle that, maybe a word or two with Boxer to get her to stop being such a stereotypical bitch would be in order?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that how she was addressed was more important to Boxer than the information she was receiving.

If I were the General, I would, in the future, refrain from calling anyone Senator, or sir, or ma&#039;am.  The worthless should all remain &quot;title-less.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that how she was addressed was more important to Boxer than the information she was receiving.</p>
<p>If I were the General, I would, in the future, refrain from calling anyone Senator, or sir, or ma'am.  The worthless should all remain "title-less."</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Boxer certainly has worked hard to gain the title Senator, however another title comes to mind. A name she richly deserves in my estimation. She earned the title easily and long ago. Starts with a B. and ends with a H. I&#039;ll bet money the General thinks so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, all high-achieving women are bitches.  We get it, Zelsdorf - she should be back in the kitchen.

Look, she was being a bit obnoxious whether she was a man or woman.  There&#039;s no need to call people names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Boxer certainly has worked hard to gain the title Senator, however another title comes to mind. A name she richly deserves in my estimation. She earned the title easily and long ago. Starts with a B. and ends with a H. I'll bet money the General thinks so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, all high-achieving women are bitches.  We get it, Zelsdorf - she should be back in the kitchen.</p>
<p>Look, she was being a bit obnoxious whether she was a man or woman.  There's no need to call people names.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Look, the military has never been popular with the left anyway&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yea bit, and no one has noticed your attacks on serving members of the military and vets when you don&#039;t approve of their politics or sexual orientation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Look, the military has never been popular with the left anyway</p></blockquote>
<p>Yea bit, and no one has noticed your attacks on serving members of the military and vets when you don't approve of their politics or sexual orientation...</p>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Was the General referring to the men on the committee as Senator, or sir?&quot;

Partial transcript has the General addressing a male Senator as &quot;sir.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Was the General referring to the men on the committee as Senator, or sir?"</p>
<p>Partial transcript has the General addressing a male Senator as "sir."</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the General referring to the men on the committee as Senator, or sir?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the General referring to the men on the committee as Senator, or sir?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the general was using the term ma&#039;am, it was totally a term of respect, and given Senator Boxer&#039;s attitude, it not a term to which she is entitled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the general was using the term ma'am, it was totally a term of respect, and given Senator Boxer's attitude, it not a term to which she is entitled.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aip;
It&#039;s not stereotyping, it&#039;s simply the recognition of the obvious political automatism on the part of the left.
 There is,after all,a difference between being an automaton and being autonomous, just as there is a difference between being a liberal and supporting liberty.
You are right, though, Boxer&#039;s behavior was &quot;pathetically typical&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aip;<br />
It's not stereotyping, it's simply the recognition of the obvious political automatism on the part of the left.<br />
 There is,after all,a difference between being an automaton and being autonomous, just as there is a difference between being a liberal and supporting liberty.<br />
You are right, though, Boxer's behavior was "pathetically typical".</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Do me a favor,” she said. “Could say senator instead of Ma’am It’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it, thank you.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m certain the General would have addressed Senator Boxer in whatever manner she requested now or in the future, had she asked him respectfully in private.  He will undoubtedly do so now as well.  Making her request so publicly in this manner was political theater, nothing more and nothing less.  You can decide who the intended audience was.

Oh, and as for working hard, so what?  I remember one of my early performance reviews where I mentioned working hard and my supervisor said rather blankly that was nice, but that wasn&#039;t what I would be graded or paid for. I would be judged and paid based upon the results I achieved, nothing more and nothing less.  Or to draw another analogy, if they would have allowed me to do so, I would have worked as hard as any major league baseball player for a spot on a roster.  Heck, I&#039;d have even given the proverbial left testicle for the privilege.  But the fact of the matter is, no matter how hard I worked for it, it wouldn&#039;t have mattered. I was never going to be a professional baseball player.

I respect Senator Boxer&#039;s office.  Barbara Boxer, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Do me a favor,” she said. “Could say senator instead of Ma&rsquo;am It&rsquo;s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I&rsquo;d appreciate it, thank you.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm certain the General would have addressed Senator Boxer in whatever manner she requested now or in the future, had she asked him respectfully in private.  He will undoubtedly do so now as well.  Making her request so publicly in this manner was political theater, nothing more and nothing less.  You can decide who the intended audience was.</p>
<p>Oh, and as for working hard, so what?  I remember one of my early performance reviews where I mentioned working hard and my supervisor said rather blankly that was nice, but that wasn't what I would be graded or paid for. I would be judged and paid based upon the results I achieved, nothing more and nothing less.  Or to draw another analogy, if they would have allowed me to do so, I would have worked as hard as any major league baseball player for a spot on a roster.  Heck, I'd have even given the proverbial left testicle for the privilege.  But the fact of the matter is, no matter how hard I worked for it, it wouldn't have mattered. I was never going to be a professional baseball player.</p>
<p>I respect Senator Boxer's office.  Barbara Boxer, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week, I have briefed a 2-star Admiral and at least 6 Navy Captains. I used both &quot;Sir and &quot;Captain&quot;/&quot;Admiral&quot; interchangeably without any hint of having been disrespectful.   

Sorry, but while Colonel Jessop, er, Senator Boxer is, in fact, entitled to be addressed as Senator, no disrespect was given or intended by the General. She was being deliberately petty and hers was an act of forced subordination.  

No way that any of those down-pressin&#039; military types are going to patronize Senator Barbara Boxer and get away with it. She earned it, dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, I have briefed a 2-star Admiral and at least 6 Navy Captains. I used both "Sir and "Captain"/"Admiral" interchangeably without any hint of having been disrespectful.   </p>
<p>Sorry, but while Colonel Jessop, er, Senator Boxer is, in fact, entitled to be addressed as Senator, no disrespect was given or intended by the General. She was being deliberately petty and hers was an act of forced subordination.  </p>
<p>No way that any of those down-pressin' military types are going to patronize Senator Barbara Boxer and get away with it. She earned it, dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What country does she think she lives in?
Ill call her a public servant without the public..... ******* **** ****!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What country does she think she lives in?<br />
Ill call her a public servant without the public..... ******* **** ****!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I would have to hear the inflection in her voice when she said it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The video is linked directly above the text.  It struck me as pretty snippy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I would have to hear the inflection in her voice when she said it. </p></blockquote>
<p>The video is linked directly above the text.  It struck me as pretty snippy.</p>
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