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	<title>Comments on: BRAC Commission Saves Groton Naval Submarine Base</title>
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		<title>By: R Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/brac_commission_saves_groton_naval_submarine_base/comment-page-1/#comment-55753</link>
		<dc:creator>R Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also noticed the commission decided to fully close another New England facility, New Brunswick Naval Air Station, Maine. It was initially selected for realignment, with 80% of its function (the P-3 ocean surveillance/ASW aircraft) being transferred to Florida.

Additionally, the Naval Shipyard at Portsmouth, NH/Kittery, MA was likewise spared.

However, I can&#039;t believe the commentary I&#039;ve heard on the news today (NPR, NBC) saying the Commission  didn&#039;t want to leave New England unprotected in the GWOT.  Unprotected from what?  The shipyard is a depot maintenance facility, and the subs in Groton are of little use protecting &quot;New England&quot; from terrorists (yes, they can launch cruise missiles (range ~1200 nm), but they can do that based anywhere (unless the enemy is Canada, eh?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also noticed the commission decided to fully close another New England facility, New Brunswick Naval Air Station, Maine. It was initially selected for realignment, with 80% of its function (the P-3 ocean surveillance/ASW aircraft) being transferred to Florida.</p>
<p>Additionally, the Naval Shipyard at Portsmouth, NH/Kittery, MA was likewise spared.</p>
<p>However, I can't believe the commentary I've heard on the news today (NPR, NBC) saying the Commission  didn't want to leave New England unprotected in the GWOT.  Unprotected from what?  The shipyard is a depot maintenance facility, and the subs in Groton are of little use protecting "New England" from terrorists (yes, they can launch cruise missiles (range ~1200 nm), but they can do that based anywhere (unless the enemy is Canada, eh?).</p>
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		<title>By: David Anfinrud</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Anfinrud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I worked at that subbase for over 10 years during my 20 year navy career. I know the base very well. I was there when they got rid of most of the shipyard workers. I was there when the got rid of the Boomer&#039;s(Nuclear missile Submarines) each time the economy tanked in the area. A major depression even in the job growth 90&#039;s because they could not replace the jobs that were lost.
  But I am of two minds on this base closure issue. It is an old base that needs a lot of work to keep running properly. That is very expensive to maintain. The state grabs as much money as it can from the military to maintain them there. So economically it should be closed. 
   Yet it is good to have submarines in several locations. One missile will not put all our submarines out of commission. Groton Subase is in a bad location that you blow up the Interstate bridge you stop all submarines from going to see for a couple of days. (Another negative). 
   This base has served a lot of good purposes but with the EB shipyard just about closed down. It seems a waste of money to maintain it. When the shipyard was working full blast making submarines it was good to have a base to house all the sailors and their families. Things were going well. Now Because of politicians it is maintained. It is a drain on defense spending just like all the other bases that politicians get to save from the cutting block. 
  Overall I wish the base would close because it has served it purpose with Honor and Dignity. It is time that the Military makes determination of what bases it needs or doesnt need. Politicians should have no say. If they have a way to save money in the long run then let them do it. Because it means we get more for our money. But then Politicians dont care about money they just care about votes. And a base closing means a lose of a lot of votes. BOth from the community and saliors wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I worked at that subbase for over 10 years during my 20 year navy career. I know the base very well. I was there when they got rid of most of the shipyard workers. I was there when the got rid of the Boomer's(Nuclear missile Submarines) each time the economy tanked in the area. A major depression even in the job growth 90's because they could not replace the jobs that were lost.<br />
  But I am of two minds on this base closure issue. It is an old base that needs a lot of work to keep running properly. That is very expensive to maintain. The state grabs as much money as it can from the military to maintain them there. So economically it should be closed.<br />
   Yet it is good to have submarines in several locations. One missile will not put all our submarines out of commission. Groton Subase is in a bad location that you blow up the Interstate bridge you stop all submarines from going to see for a couple of days. (Another negative).<br />
   This base has served a lot of good purposes but with the EB shipyard just about closed down. It seems a waste of money to maintain it. When the shipyard was working full blast making submarines it was good to have a base to house all the sailors and their families. Things were going well. Now Because of politicians it is maintained. It is a drain on defense spending just like all the other bases that politicians get to save from the cutting block.<br />
  Overall I wish the base would close because it has served it purpose with Honor and Dignity. It is time that the Military makes determination of what bases it needs or doesnt need. Politicians should have no say. If they have a way to save money in the long run then let them do it. Because it means we get more for our money. But then Politicians dont care about money they just care about votes. And a base closing means a lose of a lot of votes. BOth from the community and saliors wives.</p>
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		<title>By: SoloD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/brac_commission_saves_groton_naval_submarine_base/comment-page-1/#comment-55712</link>
		<dc:creator>SoloD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally &quot;Joe-mentum&quot; has kicked into high gear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally "Joe-mentum" has kicked into high gear!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like the audio of Senator Lieberman&#039;s &quot;Yahoo!&quot;  I think it may rank right up there with a certain &quot;YEEEEARGH!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like the audio of Senator Lieberman's "Yahoo!"  I think it may rank right up there with a certain "YEEEEARGH!"</p>
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