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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-980425</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Heh. I&#039;ll only post on public policy aspects of the issue, I promise.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm. I don&#039;t mean to jump on your reply, james, but let&#039;s just call it using it as a springboard.

Public policy issues? Are we conflating public policy issues with health issues? I would think, absent government exerting it&#039;s power into the realm of healthcare, that public policy issues as related to breast feeding would be limited to breast feeding in public, wherever that conversation would lead. But is the choice to breast feed or not, rightly labeled a public (Government) policy issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heh. I'll only post on public policy aspects of the issue, I promise.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm. I don't mean to jump on your reply, james, but let's just call it using it as a springboard.</p>
<p>Public policy issues? Are we conflating public policy issues with health issues? I would think, absent government exerting it's power into the realm of healthcare, that public policy issues as related to breast feeding would be limited to breast feeding in public, wherever that conversation would lead. But is the choice to breast feed or not, rightly labeled a public (Government) policy issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-980403</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, James. 

Glad to hear Kim is willing and able. You&#039;ll all sleep soon enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, James. </p>
<p>Glad to hear Kim is willing and able. You'll all sleep soon enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Skinnyde</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-980157</link>
		<dc:creator>Skinnyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. This is my photo of Samuel being bottle feed, and for the record I have no problem with you using it :)

Samuel, the baby in the photo, never really took to breast feeding. He was a small baby and found it difficult to latch on. This caused stress to him and his mother. From day one my wife wanted to breastfeed, we went to several breastfeeding clinics to try to resolve the problems. Occasionally he would latch on, but it was a long drawn out process. In the end my wife resulted in using a pump, I remember after Samuel&#039;s night-feed my wife would get the pump out whilst the rest of the family was sleeping. She would use the pump several times a day, it was a long drawn out process but she was determined to give Samuel breast milk for as long as she could. She managed until just past the recommended six months.

In conclusion, I am proud of my wife&#039;s determination to provide Samuel with breast milk by any means for as long as possible. There is a great stress on mothers to provide breast milk for their babies, but alas sometimes life is not that easy. If Samuel had breastfed naturally and easily from day one it would of been so much easier for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. This is my photo of Samuel being bottle feed, and for the record I have no problem with you using it :)</p>
<p>Samuel, the baby in the photo, never really took to breast feeding. He was a small baby and found it difficult to latch on. This caused stress to him and his mother. From day one my wife wanted to breastfeed, we went to several breastfeeding clinics to try to resolve the problems. Occasionally he would latch on, but it was a long drawn out process. In the end my wife resulted in using a pump, I remember after Samuel's night-feed my wife would get the pump out whilst the rest of the family was sleeping. She would use the pump several times a day, it was a long drawn out process but she was determined to give Samuel breast milk for as long as she could. She managed until just past the recommended six months.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I am proud of my wife's determination to provide Samuel with breast milk by any means for as long as possible. There is a great stress on mothers to provide breast milk for their babies, but alas sometimes life is not that easy. If Samuel had breastfed naturally and easily from day one it would of been so much easier for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-980098</link>
		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There&#039;s actual pressure applied to some new mothers these days, by THEIR mothers, to use formula.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What?  I found the pressure on the mrs. to breastfeed simply unbearable.  As did she: it was so stressful she just said the hell with it and went to the bottle. (no, not that bottle)
&lt;blockquote&gt;The dangerous flipside of the constant you&#039;re not a good mother if you don&#039;t breastfeed browbeating&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There's actual pressure applied to some new mothers these days, by THEIR mothers, to use formula.</p></blockquote>
<p>What?  I found the pressure on the mrs. to breastfeed simply unbearable.  As did she: it was so stressful she just said the hell with it and went to the bottle. (no, not that bottle)</p>
<blockquote><p>The dangerous flipside of the constant you're not a good mother if you don't breastfeed browbeating</p></blockquote>
<p>No kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-980018</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 14 week old baby girl and I am breast feeding her.  Having to pump at work is definitely a hassle but the milk is FREE.  My little one is sleeping thru the night now and has been for several weeks, so if you can make it thru the first 8 to 10 weeks of getting up every night (sometimes several times) to feed her - you&#039;ll make it.  You&#039;re almost there.

Oh, and congratulations :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 14 week old baby girl and I am breast feeding her.  Having to pump at work is definitely a hassle but the milk is FREE.  My little one is sleeping thru the night now and has been for several weeks, so if you can make it thru the first 8 to 10 weeks of getting up every night (sometimes several times) to feed her - you'll make it.  You're almost there.</p>
<p>Oh, and congratulations :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian J.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/breast_feeding_conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-979935</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dangerous flipside of the constant &lt;i&gt;you&#039;re not a good mother if you don&#039;t breastfeed&lt;/i&gt; browbeating is that mothers who cannot successfully breastfeed can put their children at risk by trying too long:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7867686.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Breastfed baby risk investigated&lt;/a&gt;.

So it&#039;s not only an aesthetic or a choice of convenience, and portraying the decision only on that spectrum can hurt newborns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dangerous flipside of the constant <i>you're not a good mother if you don't breastfeed</i> browbeating is that mothers who cannot successfully breastfeed can put their children at risk by trying too long:<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7867686.stm" rel="nofollow">Breastfed baby risk investigated</a>.</p>
<p>So it's not only an aesthetic or a choice of convenience, and portraying the decision only on that spectrum can hurt newborns.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People of a certain age still believe the propaganda that the formula companies were putting out 30-40 years ago, which was basically that formula was just as good as breastmilk.

There&#039;s actual pressure applied to some new mothers these days, by THEIR mothers, to use formula.

As James mentions, the convenience of formula is perfectly obvious.  And I have ZERO problem with society applying a bit of pressure to &quot;do the right thing,&quot; in this case, breastfeed.

Note, however, that some women for medical or other reasons CANNOT breastfeed or cannot do so sufficiently, and we should be aware of that before implying that women who feed formula are bad.  Because some women have tried hard, failed, and feel really bad and inadequate because of it.

You want more controversy?  My sister breastfed her kids until they were around 4 years old.  Now it turns out this has been done for millions of years and in many other current cultures, but everytime I mention it, people freak out and say &quot;that&#039;s wrong!&quot;  It isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of a certain age still believe the propaganda that the formula companies were putting out 30-40 years ago, which was basically that formula was just as good as breastmilk.</p>
<p>There's actual pressure applied to some new mothers these days, by THEIR mothers, to use formula.</p>
<p>As James mentions, the convenience of formula is perfectly obvious.  And I have ZERO problem with society applying a bit of pressure to "do the right thing," in this case, breastfeed.</p>
<p>Note, however, that some women for medical or other reasons CANNOT breastfeed or cannot do so sufficiently, and we should be aware of that before implying that women who feed formula are bad.  Because some women have tried hard, failed, and feel really bad and inadequate because of it.</p>
<p>You want more controversy?  My sister breastfed her kids until they were around 4 years old.  Now it turns out this has been done for millions of years and in many other current cultures, but everytime I mention it, people freak out and say "that's wrong!"  It isn't.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was all for, and much convinced of, the convenience of breast feeding... especially at 3 am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was all for, and much convinced of, the convenience of breast feeding... especially at 3 am.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine that in some respects the circle has turned; formula was more common I believe when I was growing up.  So modern.  And I get the author&#039;s point about the one-sidedness of the information, but I think it comes from a certain defensiveness to some of the points she raises:  breast-feeding is like being a dairy cow.  The advocates want to make the mother comfortable with doing it and knowledgeable about how it can be done even if you go back to work.

As a male, I&#039;ll simply say it&#039;s convient not to have to go to the store at 3AM in search of formula or worry that we packed enough in case a simple trip to the store became something more.  Have wife, will travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine that in some respects the circle has turned; formula was more common I believe when I was growing up.  So modern.  And I get the author's point about the one-sidedness of the information, but I think it comes from a certain defensiveness to some of the points she raises:  breast-feeding is like being a dairy cow.  The advocates want to make the mother comfortable with doing it and knowledgeable about how it can be done even if you go back to work.</p>
<p>As a male, I'll simply say it's convient not to have to go to the store at 3AM in search of formula or worry that we packed enough in case a simple trip to the store became something more.  Have wife, will travel.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let&#039;s just say I lost the bet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh. I&#039;ll only post on public policy aspects of the issue, I promise.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think convenience of breastfeeding verses bottle feeding is really a matter of opinion than fact. I&#039;ll take the convenience of breastfeeding any day over that of bottle feeding.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the question is with career moms who leave the kids with a nanny all day and thus have to pump to ensure there&#039;s milk available. Also, as noted in the excerpt, formula-fed kids tend to sleep longer at night since formula is more filling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let's just say I lost the bet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh. I'll only post on public policy aspects of the issue, I promise.</p>
<blockquote><p>I think convenience of breastfeeding verses bottle feeding is really a matter of opinion than fact. I'll take the convenience of breastfeeding any day over that of bottle feeding.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the question is with career moms who leave the kids with a nanny all day and thus have to pump to ensure there's milk available. Also, as noted in the excerpt, formula-fed kids tend to sleep longer at night since formula is more filling.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I breastfed all four of my kids, although I did pump and give bottles.  I found bottles rather inconvienient myself.  With breastfeeding milk was always ready and fully warmed, and there was no mess to clean up.

I think convenience of breastfeeding verses bottle feeding is really a matter of opinion than fact.  I&#039;ll take the convenience of breastfeeding any day over that of bottle feeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I breastfed all four of my kids, although I did pump and give bottles.  I found bottles rather inconvienient myself.  With breastfeeding milk was always ready and fully warmed, and there was no mess to clean up.</p>
<p>I think convenience of breastfeeding verses bottle feeding is really a matter of opinion than fact.  I'll take the convenience of breastfeeding any day over that of bottle feeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;a subject that became of sudden interest to me with the birth of our first child seven weeks ago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Chuckle)

I can remember having a simuilar conversation with my wife on the matter a few years ago. And recently I had showed her the pics you posted and at the time she wondered to me if we&#039;d hear about breastfeeding in the blog.

Let&#039;s just say I lost the bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>a subject that became of sudden interest to me with the birth of our first child seven weeks ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Chuckle)</p>
<p>I can remember having a simuilar conversation with my wife on the matter a few years ago. And recently I had showed her the pics you posted and at the time she wondered to me if we'd hear about breastfeeding in the blog.</p>
<p>Let's just say I lost the bet.</p>
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