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By: NewsTrust - About this Story - Britain to Repeal Magna Carta

NewsTrust - About this Story - Britain to Repeal Magna Carta — Thu, 31 May 2007 02:05:42 +0000

[...] Britain to Repeal Magna Carta - Review this Story Outside the Beltway - By James Joyner - May 27, 2007 (Blog Post) - Full Story Blair has been one of the most eloquent spokesmen for the need to fight back against the Islamist terrorist threat and he has taken reasonable steps to make it harder for them to foment violence in the UK. Giving police virtually unlimited discretion in harassing British nationals, however, takes a giant leap past undermining the very principles which make the U.K. worth saving to begin with. More » [...]

By: Anjin-San

Anjin-San — Mon, 28 May 2007 18:39:25 +0000

bit,

OK,show me on place I have ever said "Its all Bush's fault". Even one.

I mean, is the only way you can debate is to make crap up? Guess so. Actually, if you look at the topic of this thread, it is Blair. And I am saying he handed the bad guys a victory.

Really dude, take that thinking cap out of cold storage.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Mon, 28 May 2007 15:02:56 +0000

And you claim my worldview is simplistic? How much intelligence... how much thought does it take to continually spout "it's all Bush's fault", as you've been doing?

By: Anjin-San

Anjin-San — Mon, 28 May 2007 07:19:21 +0000

Bit,

Not sure what you mean, but Bush's contempt for the constitution and the rule of law certainly seem to know no bounds.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Mon, 28 May 2007 01:04:08 +0000

Bush Derangement Syndrome knows no bounds, does it?

By: Anjin-San

Anjin-San — Sun, 27 May 2007 19:50:23 +0000

If it is true, as Bush says, that Al-Quida "hates freedom", then this is another great victory for them, to go along with the many that Bush has given them.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 27 May 2007 18:24:39 +0000

Their right to traditional civil liberties comes first. I believe this is a dangerous misjudgment.

How many times have we in the US heard this exact same sentiment from the Republican party and supporters? Why is it ok from Bush, but wrong from Blair?

By: M ANDERSON

M ANDERSON — Sun, 27 May 2007 17:34:09 +0000

I would like everyone to know this fact. TONY BLAIR IS SCOTTISH, NOT ENGLISH. Please do not be confused by his accent. My point being that he has no tradition of democracy 'cos he's a damned sweaty sock innit?

By: Britain to Repeal Magna Carta - Cable Forum

Britain to Repeal Magna Carta - Cable Forum — Sun, 27 May 2007 15:46:02 +0000

[...] Britain to Repeal Magna Carta Tony Blair explains in a Sunday Times op-ed why basic liberties Englishmen have considered a birthright since Magna Carta are no longer convenient. I say hang the traitor :-) http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...l_magna_carta/ __________________ Womble till I die - AFC Wimbledon - Say No to franchised football [...]

By: BitsBlog » The sky isn’t falling

BitsBlog » The sky isn’t falling — Sun, 27 May 2007 15:43:03 +0000

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By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 27 May 2007 15:41:16 +0000

I, too, have some problems with all of this. That said, I wonder if James isn't being overly dramatic, here. I'd like to point out that the Magna Carta was written on a few assumptions; One of them being the assumption of a moral people being under it. And by moral, I mean in this case, a people all operating within the same moral sphere. John Adams, famously pointed out about our own constitution:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

This is most certainly a recognition on the part of atoms that our constitution could be used against us by those who were not limited by our morality. I wonder if this situation is simply the result of a recognition that the Magna Carta was similarly restricted. Are we, after all, talking about a set of principles which are ideally to be applied, or are we talking about a suicide pact?