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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GWB vs. LBJ Redux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GWB vs. LBJ Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the political spectrum. In addition to Donklephant, it was also picked up by: Washington Post, James Joyner at Outside The Beltway, Steven Reynolds at the All Spin Zone, 6SpeedTA95 at The Liberty Lounge, The Street.com, Gray [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the political spectrum. In addition to Donklephant, it was also picked up by: Washington Post, James Joyner at Outside The Beltway, Steven Reynolds at the All Spin Zone, 6SpeedTA95 at The Liberty Lounge, The Street.com, Gray [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Divided We Stand United We Fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divided We Stand United We Fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GWB vs. LBJ Redux...&lt;/strong&gt;

The column got a lot of attention in the blogosphere and MSM, including the Washington Post, James Joyner at Outside The Beltway, Justin Gardner at Donklephant, Steven Reynolds at the All Spin Zone, 6SpeedTA95 at The Liberty Lounge, The Street.com, Gra...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GWB vs. LBJ Redux...</strong></p>
<p>The column got a lot of attention in the blogosphere and MSM, including the Washington Post, James Joyner at Outside The Beltway, Justin Gardner at Donklephant, Steven Reynolds at the All Spin Zone, 6SpeedTA95 at The Liberty Lounge, The Street.com, Gra...</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Just that actually doing something about them is expensive.&lt;/em&gt;

Indeed.  And what has accomplished?  Let&#039;s see, we have more terrorist now than we had before 9/11, we have a training ground where they&#039;ve been taking graduate courses in urban warfare.  Afghanistan is precariously sliding &lt;em&gt;back&lt;/em&gt; into the Taliban&#039;s hands.  They&#039;ve had a record crop of Opium, major source of funding for the self same terrorists, not to mention a scourge in and of itself, every year since we&#039;ve &quot;won&quot;.  Bush took his eye off bin Laden and pulled troops out of Afghanistan to focus on Iraq and the dude is still making tapes and laughing at us.

And then there&#039;s the stuff Bush has done inside the US, like apportion security expenditures by state as political payouts rather than by prioritized threat.  There&#039;s the languishing port security which hasn&#039;t been funded.  There&#039;s the fact that our police/fire/etc communications &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; haven&#039;t been fixed.  Oh, and thanks to the Iraq whatever it is you think is happening over there but don&#039;t call it a civil war, our National Guard - primary responders - are out of equipment, out of manpower, etc.

Not to mention the breaking of our millitary in a way that the Republicans believed Clinton did.

Bravo!  

Yes, lot&#039;s of money spent.  Jack sh*t to show for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Just that actually doing something about them is expensive.</em></p>
<p>Indeed.  And what has accomplished?  Let's see, we have more terrorist now than we had before 9/11, we have a training ground where they've been taking graduate courses in urban warfare.  Afghanistan is precariously sliding <em>back</em> into the Taliban's hands.  They've had a record crop of Opium, major source of funding for the self same terrorists, not to mention a scourge in and of itself, every year since we've "won".  Bush took his eye off bin Laden and pulled troops out of Afghanistan to focus on Iraq and the dude is still making tapes and laughing at us.</p>
<p>And then there's the stuff Bush has done inside the US, like apportion security expenditures by state as political payouts rather than by prioritized threat.  There's the languishing port security which hasn't been funded.  There's the fact that our police/fire/etc communications <em>still</em> haven't been fixed.  Oh, and thanks to the Iraq whatever it is you think is happening over there but don't call it a civil war, our National Guard - primary responders - are out of equipment, out of manpower, etc.</p>
<p>Not to mention the breaking of our millitary in a way that the Republicans believed Clinton did.</p>
<p>Bravo!  </p>
<p>Yes, lot's of money spent.  Jack sh*t to show for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey W. Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey W. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody except yourself, James.

James Joyner said: &quot;The latter enjoyed the luxury of a post-Cold War lull while the former had to deal with a major terrorist attack on our soil.&quot;

Clinton had major terrorist attacks on our soil. Clinton dealt with them by convicting more than a dozen terrorists and conspirators.  Some were executed, and some were sentenced to prison terms in excess of 200 years.

Bush, on the other hand, has bungled every terrorism prosecution during his presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody except yourself, James.</p>
<p>James Joyner said: "The latter enjoyed the luxury of a post-Cold War lull while the former had to deal with a major terrorist attack on our soil."</p>
<p>Clinton had major terrorist attacks on our soil. Clinton dealt with them by convicting more than a dozen terrorists and conspirators.  Some were executed, and some were sentenced to prison terms in excess of 200 years.</p>
<p>Bush, on the other hand, has bungled every terrorism prosecution during his presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh heavens, we all know that Bill Clinton faced no domestic terrorist attacks. The &#039;93 WTC bombing was, from what I understand, just a prank, and Oklahoma City was not terrorism because it was perpetrated by a white Christian from Kansas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nobody said there were no terrorist attacks under Clinton.  Just that actually &lt;em&gt;doing something about them&lt;/em&gt; is expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh heavens, we all know that Bill Clinton faced no domestic terrorist attacks. The '93 WTC bombing was, from what I understand, just a prank, and Oklahoma City was not terrorism because it was perpetrated by a white Christian from Kansas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nobody said there were no terrorist attacks under Clinton.  Just that actually <em>doing something about them</em> is expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey W. Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey W. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh heavens, we all know that Bill Clinton faced no domestic terrorist attacks.  The &#039;93 WTC bombing was, from what I understand, just a prank, and Oklahoma City was not terrorism because it was perpetrated by a white Christian from Kansas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh heavens, we all know that Bill Clinton faced no domestic terrorist attacks.  The '93 WTC bombing was, from what I understand, just a prank, and Oklahoma City was not terrorism because it was perpetrated by a white Christian from Kansas.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Slivinski and Lightman are documenting here, is the effect of divided vs. unified government. The two biggest spenders are GWB and LB J. LBJ led a unified Democratic Government. GWB led a unified Republican government. Since GWB faced a divided government this year, &lt;a href=&quot;http://donklephant.com/2007/08/28/chalk-up-another-one-for-divided-government/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spending increases have dropped to around 3%&lt;/a&gt;.   

To my knowledge, William Niskanen, former Reagan Ecomonic Advisor, was the first to document this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;effect&lt;/a&gt;.

Slivinski has made this &lt;a href=&quot;http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2006/05/i-was-wrong-gwb-vs-lbj.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comparison of GWB to LBJ&lt;/a&gt; before. He noted it an analysis last year and in his book &quot;Buck Wild&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Slivinski and Lightman are documenting here, is the effect of divided vs. unified government. The two biggest spenders are GWB and LB J. LBJ led a unified Democratic Government. GWB led a unified Republican government. Since GWB faced a divided government this year, <a href="http://donklephant.com/2007/08/28/chalk-up-another-one-for-divided-government/" rel="nofollow">spending increases have dropped to around 3%</a>.   </p>
<p>To my knowledge, William Niskanen, former Reagan Ecomonic Advisor, was the first to document this <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3088" rel="nofollow">effect</a>.</p>
<p>Slivinski has made this <a href="http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2006/05/i-was-wrong-gwb-vs-lbj.html" rel="nofollow">comparison of GWB to LBJ</a> before. He noted it an analysis last year and in his book "Buck Wild".</p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And don&#039;t think for a minute that Congress doesn&#039;t have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When Congress was lied to about the state of the intelligence (see Bob Graham), I think that, while not blameless, they certainly don&#039;t have an equal share. The executive certainly bears more responsibility here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And don't think for a minute that Congress doesn't have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.</p></blockquote>
<p>When Congress was lied to about the state of the intelligence (see Bob Graham), I think that, while not blameless, they certainly don't have an equal share. The executive certainly bears more responsibility here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Presidents don’t spend money on their own; Congress is a major driver.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;And don&#039;t think for a minute that Congress doesn&#039;t have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Congress deserves just as much blame as Bush, if not more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You guy&#039;s aren&#039;t exactly helping your party out with these comments you know.  It&#039;s not like all the spending increase was in the past year alone.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Because if they were truly worried about the outrageous spending, they would eliminate much of it - by pulling the funding for the war. They refuse to do so, so any complainants from the Dems will sound hollow at best.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I seem to remember the Democrats in congress introducing several bills to wind-down the war, or at least troop levels.  Many didn&#039;t pass an up or down vote, but others were either filibustered* or vetoed, weren&#039;t they?

* By Filibustered I mean there was a rumor of a threat of a possible filibuster and the Dem leadership caved and pulled the bill.  See, we progressive Democrats do hold our party leaders responsible for not reigning in spending, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Presidents don&rsquo;t spend money on their own; Congress is a major driver.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>And don't think for a minute that Congress doesn't have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Congress deserves just as much blame as Bush, if not more.</p></blockquote>
<p>You guy's aren't exactly helping your party out with these comments you know.  It's not like all the spending increase was in the past year alone.</p>
<blockquote><p>Because if they were truly worried about the outrageous spending, they would eliminate much of it - by pulling the funding for the war. They refuse to do so, so any complainants from the Dems will sound hollow at best.</p></blockquote>
<p>I seem to remember the Democrats in congress introducing several bills to wind-down the war, or at least troop levels.  Many didn't pass an up or down vote, but others were either filibustered* or vetoed, weren't they?</p>
<p>* By Filibustered I mean there was a rumor of a threat of a possible filibuster and the Dem leadership caved and pulled the bill.  See, we progressive Democrats do hold our party leaders responsible for not reigning in spending, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Wyatt Earp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wyatt Earp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - Please.  The Congress deserves just as much blame as Bush, if not more.  Why?  Because if they were truly worried about the outrageous spending, they would eliminate much of it - &lt;em&gt;by pulling the funding for the war.&lt;/em&gt;  They refuse to do so, so any complainants from the Dems will sound hollow at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy - Please.  The Congress deserves just as much blame as Bush, if not more.  Why?  Because if they were truly worried about the outrageous spending, they would eliminate much of it - <em>by pulling the funding for the war.</em>  They refuse to do so, so any complainants from the Dems will sound hollow at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, guys, he has been fighting a war on 2 fronts.  Give him a break.  And the entire deficit is made up of the war on terror.  Hardly something to chastise him about, especially democrats since they support ALL of it.  Every bit.  100%.  

Libs are the biggest hypocrites in the history of man.  Way to go!  You guys finally accomplished something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, guys, he has been fighting a war on 2 fronts.  Give him a break.  And the entire deficit is made up of the war on terror.  Hardly something to chastise him about, especially democrats since they support ALL of it.  Every bit.  100%.  </p>
<p>Libs are the biggest hypocrites in the history of man.  Way to go!  You guys finally accomplished something.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they get to pay for his Social Security benefits, so he gets to screw them THREE times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they get to pay for his Social Security benefits, so he gets to screw them THREE times.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, please.

The man never once vetoed a spending bill until the Democrats took congress over, then he discovered the veto pen. He is not interested in controlling spending, just creating the appearance of an irrersponsible congress being reined in by &quot;the good steward of the people money&quot;. 

Pardon me while I puke. Bush was perfectly happy to screw children out of medical coverage for strictly partisan motives. The same kids will be paying off his spending spree decades from now, so Bush gets to screw them twice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, please.</p>
<p>The man never once vetoed a spending bill until the Democrats took congress over, then he discovered the veto pen. He is not interested in controlling spending, just creating the appearance of an irrersponsible congress being reined in by "the good steward of the people money". </p>
<p>Pardon me while I puke. Bush was perfectly happy to screw children out of medical coverage for strictly partisan motives. The same kids will be paying off his spending spree decades from now, so Bush gets to screw them twice...</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that, in and of itself, accounts for the spending.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Except that it doesn&#039;t.  Indeed, you have to go so far as reading the post in question to know that you&#039;re being ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that, in and of itself, accounts for the spending.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except that it doesn't.  Indeed, you have to go so far as reading the post in question to know that you're being ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether it&#039;s the right decision or not, we &lt;strong&gt;are&lt;/strong&gt; in Afghanistan, and we &lt;strong&gt;are&lt;/strong&gt; in Iraq.  that, in and of itself, accounts for the spending.  And don&#039;t think for a minute that Congress doesn&#039;t have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it's the right decision or not, we <strong>are</strong> in Afghanistan, and we <strong>are</strong> in Iraq.  that, in and of itself, accounts for the spending.  And don't think for a minute that Congress doesn't have an equal share of the blame as far as the fiduciary side goes.</p>
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