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		<title>By: Davids Medienkritik</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75549</link>
		<dc:creator>Davids Medienkritik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SPIEGEL ONLINE: Ignoring the Facts Again...&lt;/strong&gt;

(By Ray D.) Here is a small but telling example of how SPIEGEL ONLINE handles news on the United States. The following is a story as featured on SPIEGEL ONLINE&#039;s homepage March 2: And here is the translation:Revealing Video: Threatening...</description>
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<p>(By Ray D.) Here is a small but telling example of how SPIEGEL ONLINE handles news on the United States. The following is a story as featured on SPIEGEL ONLINE's homepage March 2: And here is the translation:Revealing Video: Threatening...</p>
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		<title>By: All Things Beautiful</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75482</link>
		<dc:creator>All Things Beautiful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Governor &#039;Firing Blancos&#039;...&lt;/strong&gt;

The news today comes as no surprise to me, but may indeed burst the bubble of many an aspiring President Bush basher. New tapes have come to light and this is indeed not good news for the left&#039;s angry rants:...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Governor 'Firing Blancos'...</strong></p>
<p>The news today comes as no surprise to me, but may indeed burst the bubble of many an aspiring President Bush basher. New tapes have come to light and this is indeed not good news for the left's angry rants:...</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged.com</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75473</link>
		<dc:creator>RightWinged.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BREAKING: AP Issues Friday Night &quot;Clarification&quot; On Bush/Katrina/Levee Breach Video...&lt;/strong&gt;

h/t Drudge AP FRIDAY NIGHT CLARIFICATION ON BUSH/KATRINA VIDEO Fri Mar 03 2006 19:48:29 ET Clarification: Katrina-Video story ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) _ In a March 1 story, The Associated Press reported that federal disaster officials warned Pr...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BREAKING: AP Issues Friday Night "Clarification" On Bush/Katrina/Levee Breach Video...</strong></p>
<p>h/t Drudge AP FRIDAY NIGHT CLARIFICATION ON BUSH/KATRINA VIDEO Fri Mar 03 2006 19:48:29 ET Clarification: Katrina-Video story ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) _ In a March 1 story, The Associated Press reported that federal disaster officials warned Pr...</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Cobb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75403</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Another Breach in the Levy of Leftist Katrina Coverage...&lt;/strong&gt;

Note to the left: The levee of inaccurate anti-Bush Katrina coverage overtopped a long time ago. But now the levee has breached and the floodwaters are rising. Evacuate! Evacuate! The attack from the left on President Bush over Hurricane Katrina has be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Another Breach in the Levy of Leftist Katrina Coverage...</strong></p>
<p>Note to the left: The levee of inaccurate anti-Bush Katrina coverage overtopped a long time ago. But now the levee has breached and the floodwaters are rising. Evacuate! Evacuate! The attack from the left on President Bush over Hurricane Katrina has be...</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75379</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, an ad hominem attack is generally considered to be one based on facts irrelevant to the current discussion, often involving a personal attack. This discussion is about what the White House was told about the threat from the storms &amp; what was then done to prepare for/respond to the damage. I believe the testimony of Brown &amp; Chertoff give ample evidence that they are both culpable and incompetent. You may disagree with my conclusions, but the attack is quite relevant.

A better example of ad hominem is your bringing up the racial accusations, which have exactly _nothing_ to do with this discussion. The title of the thread is &quot;Bush is Warned on Katrina in Video&quot;. The point is that even after being told (repeatedly, if Brownie is correct) about the potential threat to the entire Guld Coast area (not just NOLA), Bush unashamedly lied to avoid looking like an idiot in the aftermath.

Not to mention the fact that I&#039;m _sure_ civil engineers know the difference between breach and overtop. But Bush is no civil engineer, and my point was that the defense Beverage offered up that Bush might be intimately familiar with those terms simply doesn&#039;t hold water (no pun intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, an ad hominem attack is generally considered to be one based on facts irrelevant to the current discussion, often involving a personal attack. This discussion is about what the White House was told about the threat from the storms &amp; what was then done to prepare for/respond to the damage. I believe the testimony of Brown &amp; Chertoff give ample evidence that they are both culpable and incompetent. You may disagree with my conclusions, but the attack is quite relevant.</p>
<p>A better example of ad hominem is your bringing up the racial accusations, which have exactly _nothing_ to do with this discussion. The title of the thread is "Bush is Warned on Katrina in Video". The point is that even after being told (repeatedly, if Brownie is correct) about the potential threat to the entire Guld Coast area (not just NOLA), Bush unashamedly lied to avoid looking like an idiot in the aftermath.</p>
<p>Not to mention the fact that I'm _sure_ civil engineers know the difference between breach and overtop. But Bush is no civil engineer, and my point was that the defense Beverage offered up that Bush might be intimately familiar with those terms simply doesn't hold water (no pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SMASHED: AP&#039;s New &quot;Bush Lied About Levee Breach Worries&quot; Campaign Destroyed By Bloggers...&lt;/strong&gt;

Alright, I&#039;ve decided to create a new post on this subject in an effort to be more clear and articulate. I understand that in my rush to get the original post out, I wasn&#039;t very clear on some points and......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>SMASHED: AP's New "Bush Lied About Levee Breach Worries" Campaign Destroyed By Bloggers...</strong></p>
<p>Alright, I've decided to create a new post on this subject in an effort to be more clear and articulate. I understand that in my rush to get the original post out, I wasn't very clear on some points and......</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/bush_is_warned_on_katrina_in_video_/comment-page-1/#comment-75348</link>
		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;About The Katrina Teleconferencing Videos...&lt;/strong&gt;

All that video undermines the claim that the Administration didn&#039;t take the hurricane threat seriously. There&#039;s videotape from sessions over the course of six days. Sounds like they took it quite seriously....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>About The Katrina Teleconferencing Videos...</strong></p>
<p>All that video undermines the claim that the Administration didn't take the hurricane threat seriously. There's videotape from sessions over the course of six days. Sounds like they took it quite seriously....</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rhoads (vnjagvet)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Rhoads (vnjagvet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His name is Legion.  His game is angry rhetoric.  His argument is ad hominem.  And all of it shows he is ill informed.  

First, Katrina dealt the Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana coasts a far more devastating blow than New Orleans.  FEMA&#039;s response was generally deemed adequate in those regions.  That was first, because the state and local officials there were more capable and performed better than their New Orleans counterparts, and because the density of the population was for the most part lower in those regions.

Second, the Press concentrated on New Orleans, and made it out to be a racial issue.  It was not, of course, but that is one of the reasons that FEMA&#039;s performance was under a microscope and its failings exaggerated.  That is not to say its failings were not significant, because they were.  But in the face of the largest natural disaster in the nation&#039;s history, it would have been a miracle had significant failings not been exposed under such circumstances.

Third, the difference between what happened (breech of the levees) and what was predicted (topping of the levees) is not simply a difference in figure of speech.  The risks of each of those situations are far different as any civil engineer will tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His name is Legion.  His game is angry rhetoric.  His argument is ad hominem.  And all of it shows he is ill informed.  </p>
<p>First, Katrina dealt the Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana coasts a far more devastating blow than New Orleans.  FEMA's response was generally deemed adequate in those regions.  That was first, because the state and local officials there were more capable and performed better than their New Orleans counterparts, and because the density of the population was for the most part lower in those regions.</p>
<p>Second, the Press concentrated on New Orleans, and made it out to be a racial issue.  It was not, of course, but that is one of the reasons that FEMA's performance was under a microscope and its failings exaggerated.  That is not to say its failings were not significant, because they were.  But in the face of the largest natural disaster in the nation's history, it would have been a miracle had significant failings not been exposed under such circumstances.</p>
<p>Third, the difference between what happened (breech of the levees) and what was predicted (topping of the levees) is not simply a difference in figure of speech.  The risks of each of those situations are far different as any civil engineer will tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point being harped, at least in the areas I&#039;ve seen this reported, is not the level of preparedness of fed/state/local agencies, but rather that Bush (and a lot of other people) knew about significant problems and did exactly nothing to prepare for them. More, that Bush instinctively lied to cover his ass when confronted with the colossal and ongoing failures in responding. Indeed, unless he literally slept through the entire few days leading up to landfall, his &quot;nobody anticipated&quot; statement is even more baldly nonsense.

Beverage and Hinderaker&#039;s comments are particularly idiotic. The idea that Geroge W. Bush, whom even his supporters admit doesn&#039;t do &quot;words&quot; well, was intentionally playing on the subtleties of &#039;breach&#039; vs. &#039;overtopping&#039; is laughable on its face. And Hinderaker tries to dodge the anticipation issue altogether by trying to draw attention to the pointless issue of when completely different quotes were reported.

I&#039;ll grant that the environment at the time was highly chaotic, but good god man! This is FEMA and DHS we&#039;re talking about here - their &lt;em&gt;entire purpose&lt;/em&gt; is to deal with chaotic situations! To even imply that they were overwhelmed by the confusion is a de facto indictment of everyone involved for gross incompetence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point being harped, at least in the areas I've seen this reported, is not the level of preparedness of fed/state/local agencies, but rather that Bush (and a lot of other people) knew about significant problems and did exactly nothing to prepare for them. More, that Bush instinctively lied to cover his ass when confronted with the colossal and ongoing failures in responding. Indeed, unless he literally slept through the entire few days leading up to landfall, his "nobody anticipated" statement is even more baldly nonsense.</p>
<p>Beverage and Hinderaker's comments are particularly idiotic. The idea that Geroge W. Bush, whom even his supporters admit doesn't do "words" well, was intentionally playing on the subtleties of 'breach' vs. 'overtopping' is laughable on its face. And Hinderaker tries to dodge the anticipation issue altogether by trying to draw attention to the pointless issue of when completely different quotes were reported.</p>
<p>I'll grant that the environment at the time was highly chaotic, but good god man! This is FEMA and DHS we're talking about here - their <em>entire purpose</em> is to deal with chaotic situations! To even imply that they were overwhelmed by the confusion is a de facto indictment of everyone involved for gross incompetence!</p>
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		<title>By: sgtfluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgtfluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another drive by reporting...</description>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tape: Bush, Chertoff Warned Before Katrina 
   
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In dramatic and sometimes agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his ...</description>
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<p>In dramatic and sometimes agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his ...</p>
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		<title>By: THE GALVIN OPINION</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE GALVIN OPINION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FEMA MEMO: KATRINA DETERMINED TO STRIKE NEW ORLEAN...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Galvin Opinion has discovered a disturbing fact: The White House already knew hurricanes were dangerous before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast...</description>
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<p>The Galvin Opinion has discovered a disturbing fact: The White House already knew hurricanes were dangerous before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast...</p>
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