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		<title>By: James B. Putney</title>
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		<dc:creator>James B. Putney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a major speech - and I am shocked at the lack of comment nationally.

Consider:

(1) Saddam Hussein was the ultimate secularist Moslem. The guy had statues of himself - utterly against the Quran. We went in to depose him. Why? WMD.

(2) Saddam&#039;s gone and we have a new Yugoslavia. (Oh - no WMD. But I suspect we new that.) Some Shia and many Sunnis oppose us, and we commit hundreds of billions and too many lives trying to create a Western democracy in a country with no historical cohesion. Why? To put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

(3) October 6, 2005: George informs us that it&#039;s no longer WMD, no longer the native insurgents - we are engaged in a global war against radical Islam (not the true, kindly, lovethyneighbor turntheothercheek kind of Islam that will eventually prevail, but the nasty heretical abberant minority murderous kind of Islam), and the radicals are trying to find some country to take over, and guess what - it&#039;s Iraq! And then the other 200-odd nations on earth will fall like dominoes, so by STAYING THE COURSE we are in fact saving world civilization. So we must fight in Iraq forever.

BUT WAIT A MINUTE - IF WE HAD NEVER INVADED IRAQ AND DISMANTLED SADDAM&#039;S GOVERNMENT, THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT THE RADICALS COULD HAVE SAID &quot;BOO&quot; IN IRAQ WITHOUT GETTING STUFFED INTO MEAT GRINDERS.

The fact is that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz&#039;s intellectual neocon fantasies ended at the capture and humiliation of Saddam, and they never gave a moment&#039;s thought to &quot;what next&quot;, even though Bush 41 had written - quite eloquently - on the subject, and even though there were major voices in the CIA and State saying &quot;But what happens after...?&quot;

And the ultimate irony? We are (supposedly) building an army composed of the most fundamentalist group in the country - the group whose strongest ties are to Iran - the Shiites. Have you thought that one through, George?

George blames the radicals for taking over Afghanistan, forgetting that we paid the anti-Soviet rebels $1 billion to lure every fanatical jihadist in the world to come fight the Russians. That&#039;s right. We financed the radical Islamist takeover of Afghanistan. Did we think that one through?

Hell, we financed Saddam in the 80&#039;s against Iran.

See a pattern here? Is this any way for an empire to behave?

Poor George. Rather, poor us, and poor soldiers whose lives have been ended or shattered by the most UNpatriotic kind of mindlessness imaginaeable.

How long until George gives his ratpack the Presidential Medal of Freedom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a major speech - and I am shocked at the lack of comment nationally.</p>
<p>Consider:</p>
<p>(1) Saddam Hussein was the ultimate secularist Moslem. The guy had statues of himself - utterly against the Quran. We went in to depose him. Why? WMD.</p>
<p>(2) Saddam's gone and we have a new Yugoslavia. (Oh - no WMD. But I suspect we new that.) Some Shia and many Sunnis oppose us, and we commit hundreds of billions and too many lives trying to create a Western democracy in a country with no historical cohesion. Why? To put Humpty Dumpty back together again.</p>
<p>(3) October 6, 2005: George informs us that it's no longer WMD, no longer the native insurgents - we are engaged in a global war against radical Islam (not the true, kindly, lovethyneighbor turntheothercheek kind of Islam that will eventually prevail, but the nasty heretical abberant minority murderous kind of Islam), and the radicals are trying to find some country to take over, and guess what - it's Iraq! And then the other 200-odd nations on earth will fall like dominoes, so by STAYING THE COURSE we are in fact saving world civilization. So we must fight in Iraq forever.</p>
<p>BUT WAIT A MINUTE - IF WE HAD NEVER INVADED IRAQ AND DISMANTLED SADDAM'S GOVERNMENT, THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT THE RADICALS COULD HAVE SAID "BOO" IN IRAQ WITHOUT GETTING STUFFED INTO MEAT GRINDERS.</p>
<p>The fact is that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz's intellectual neocon fantasies ended at the capture and humiliation of Saddam, and they never gave a moment's thought to "what next", even though Bush 41 had written - quite eloquently - on the subject, and even though there were major voices in the CIA and State saying "But what happens after...?"</p>
<p>And the ultimate irony? We are (supposedly) building an army composed of the most fundamentalist group in the country - the group whose strongest ties are to Iran - the Shiites. Have you thought that one through, George?</p>
<p>George blames the radicals for taking over Afghanistan, forgetting that we paid the anti-Soviet rebels $1 billion to lure every fanatical jihadist in the world to come fight the Russians. That's right. We financed the radical Islamist takeover of Afghanistan. Did we think that one through?</p>
<p>Hell, we financed Saddam in the 80's against Iran.</p>
<p>See a pattern here? Is this any way for an empire to behave?</p>
<p>Poor George. Rather, poor us, and poor soldiers whose lives have been ended or shattered by the most UNpatriotic kind of mindlessness imaginaeable.</p>
<p>How long until George gives his ratpack the Presidential Medal of Freedom?</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken:

Well Ken, I just love and enjoy the freedoms that this good old USA has and I will not give those freedoms up to a bunch of radical Muslim extremists or guys like you. I don&#039;t enjoy war or violance but, I am and will be always ready and willing to defend our country. Thats a lot more than I can say to the pacifists like you and the likes of you that want to hand this country to those bas....s that want only to make Islamic slaves of every American

Your problem Ken is that you have an idealogy that would love to see this country go down to those who would take your freedom away and either make a slave of you or behead you and every member of your family. Even though Ken, you would sacrifice your freedom, your life and the lives of your loved ones, to these extremists and terrorists, you can be rest assured that I will be to defend you, your family and every American in spite of your misguided thinking. You truly are pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken:</p>
<p>Well Ken, I just love and enjoy the freedoms that this good old USA has and I will not give those freedoms up to a bunch of radical Muslim extremists or guys like you. I don't enjoy war or violance but, I am and will be always ready and willing to defend our country. Thats a lot more than I can say to the pacifists like you and the likes of you that want to hand this country to those bas....s that want only to make Islamic slaves of every American</p>
<p>Your problem Ken is that you have an idealogy that would love to see this country go down to those who would take your freedom away and either make a slave of you or behead you and every member of your family. Even though Ken, you would sacrifice your freedom, your life and the lives of your loved ones, to these extremists and terrorists, you can be rest assured that I will be to defend you, your family and every American in spite of your misguided thinking. You truly are pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Shit Speech&lt;/strong&gt;

(Sorry I&#039;ve been absent for so long, but an explanation is forthcoming shortly.) Bush gave a speech today which sounded like it could have been written by a much-less educated Chris Hitchens - long, involved, and so utterly devoid of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Shit Speech</strong></p>
<p>(Sorry I've been absent for so long, but an explanation is forthcoming shortly.) Bush gave a speech today which sounded like it could have been written by a much-less educated Chris Hitchens - long, involved, and so utterly devoid of...</p>
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		<title>By: The Title of Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Title of Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Identifying The Enemy&lt;/strong&gt;

Finally. In this morning&#039;s Presidential address, I&#039;m pleased to see President Bush get more specific on identifying the enemy in the so-called Global War On Terror (GWOT).And while the killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks serv...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Identifying The Enemy</strong></p>
<p>Finally. In this morning's Presidential address, I'm pleased to see President Bush get more specific on identifying the enemy in the so-called Global War On Terror (GWOT).And while the killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks serv...</p>
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		<title>By: CALIFORNIA  YANKEE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CALIFORNIA  YANKEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Never Back Down, Never Give In&lt;/strong&gt;

President Bush has given another superb speech before the National Endowment for Democracy about the War On Terror. Like the Advance of Freedom speech President Bush gave to the National Endowment for Democracy last nearly two years ago, today&#039;s speech</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Never Back Down, Never Give In</strong></p>
<p>President Bush has given another superb speech before the National Endowment for Democracy about the War On Terror. Like the Advance of Freedom speech President Bush gave to the National Endowment for Democracy last nearly two years ago, today's speech</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Spencer, California Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Spencer, California Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, with all due respect, the President&#039;s speech was another in the series of thought provoking speeches in which the President has set forth an ambitious vision of the post 9-11 world. 

Like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031106-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Advance of Freedom&lt;/a&gt; speech President Bush gave to the National Endowment for Democracy and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031119-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Three Pillars&lt;/a&gt; speech he gave at Whitehall Palace nearly two years ago, today&#039;s speech is another in the series of thought provoking speeches in which the President has set forth an ambitious vision of the post 9-11 world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, with all due respect, the President's speech was another in the series of thought provoking speeches in which the President has set forth an ambitious vision of the post 9-11 world. </p>
<p>Like the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031106-2.html" rel="nofollow">Advance of Freedom</a> speech President Bush gave to the National Endowment for Democracy and the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031119-1.html" rel="nofollow">Three Pillars</a> speech he gave at Whitehall Palace nearly two years ago, today's speech is another in the series of thought provoking speeches in which the President has set forth an ambitious vision of the post 9-11 world.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herbie, you are either as crazy as Bush or as evil as the radical Islamist. 

Or perhaps your just a sick f,er who gets his jollies with death and destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herbie, you are either as crazy as Bush or as evil as the radical Islamist. </p>
<p>Or perhaps your just a sick f,er who gets his jollies with death and destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it went through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it went through.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bush Lashes Out At Militants&lt;/strong&gt;

Defending his Iraq policy in the face of declining public support, President Bush accused Islamic mi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bush Lashes Out At Militants</strong></p>
<p>Defending his Iraq policy in the face of declining public support, President Bush accused Islamic mi</p>
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		<title>By: The Heretik</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Heretik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#$%!  indeed. Don&#039;t know if the track back worked, but I linked you &lt;a href=&quot;http://theheretik.typepad.com/the_heretik/2005/10/bush_puts_terrr.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#$%!  indeed. Don't know if the track back worked, but I linked you <a href="http://theheretik.typepad.com/the_heretik/2005/10/bush_puts_terrr.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Heretik</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Heretik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BUSH PUTS TERRROR CARDS ON TABLE&lt;/strong&gt;

 BUSH PLAYED THE SAME HAND again on the war on terror. [story] This time he played with some specifics, but they were not too specific.We&#039;ve stopped at least five more al Qaeda efforts to case targets in the United</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BUSH PUTS TERRROR CARDS ON TABLE</strong></p>
<p> BUSH PLAYED THE SAME HAND again on the war on terror. [story] This time he played with some specifics, but they were not too specific.We've stopped at least five more al Qaeda efforts to case targets in the United</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken:

Just when are you going to get off your &quot;Hate Bush&quot; kick.

Or,Are you just to stupid to know that these extremist are trying to kill you?

Wow, you are really a broken record coupled with some sort of self righteous philosophy that has turned you into another sore loser that just can&#039;t get over it.

This war is not about religous freedom, it&#039;s about someone who wants to enslave you or just kill you outright. 

If you don&#039;t think so, then that puts you into the &quot;not to intelligent&quot; class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken:</p>
<p>Just when are you going to get off your "Hate Bush" kick.</p>
<p>Or,Are you just to stupid to know that these extremist are trying to kill you?</p>
<p>Wow, you are really a broken record coupled with some sort of self righteous philosophy that has turned you into another sore loser that just can't get over it.</p>
<p>This war is not about religous freedom, it's about someone who wants to enslave you or just kill you outright. </p>
<p>If you don't think so, then that puts you into the "not to intelligent" class.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush is a freakin nut case. He sees enemies under every bed. 

Why should Americans, who beleive in religious freedom, oppose people on the other side of the world from having the kind of government they want? Even if it is based upon religion? 

I know they may be crazy, but it is just as crazy for Bush to kill them over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is a freakin nut case. He sees enemies under every bed. </p>
<p>Why should Americans, who beleive in religious freedom, oppose people on the other side of the world from having the kind of government they want? Even if it is based upon religion? </p>
<p>I know they may be crazy, but it is just as crazy for Bush to kill them over it.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush has made the stunning announcement that Islamic extremists are big rotten meanies.

Uh, Yeah.  Because when Bush said &quot;We are facing a radical ideology with inmeasurable objectives to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world,&quot; half the idiots in this country think he&#039;s referring to the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush has made the stunning announcement that Islamic extremists are big rotten meanies.</p>
<p>Uh, Yeah.  Because when Bush said "We are facing a radical ideology with inmeasurable objectives to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world," half the idiots in this country think he's referring to the U.S.</p>
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