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	<title>Comments on: Can&#8217;t Peddle 55</title>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cant_peddle_55/comment-page-1/#comment-455083</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an occasional bike commuter and I readily admit to rolling through stop signs, sometimes even a red light, etc.  I shouldn&#039;t do it.  Agreed.

But here&#039;s the thing:

In all the time I&#039;ve been commuting, no one has ever had to jump out of the way to keep me from running them down.  Never.  Meanwhile, I have &quot;near misses&quot; on roughly a weekly basis.  Careless drivers, who don&#039;t understand bicycles on the road are a constant menace.  Constantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an occasional bike commuter and I readily admit to rolling through stop signs, sometimes even a red light, etc.  I shouldn't do it.  Agreed.</p>
<p>But here's the thing:</p>
<p>In all the time I've been commuting, no one has ever had to jump out of the way to keep me from running them down.  Never.  Meanwhile, I have "near misses" on roughly a weekly basis.  Careless drivers, who don't understand bicycles on the road are a constant menace.  Constantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cant_peddle_55/comment-page-1/#comment-454797</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norms.  Courtesy.  Common sense.  These are all needed by cyclists if they want a place on the road.

Now I&#039;m a bike rider.  Not a commuter.  A rider who puts on the spandex, helmet, and cool shades.  I get down to business and get my miles in.  I roll through stop signs, run the reds when they won&#039;t turn for me, and take a full lane when safety demands it.  I also respect cars, get out of the way when possible, and mind pedestrians.  I signal my turns, talk to drivers politely, and nod appreciatively.

The fact is there are jerks on bikes and jerks in cars.  Every time you turn around you read about one or the other causing problems.  In Portland the other day it was a cyclist using his bike to bash the motorist&#039;s car.  Nice.  He was also a transportation planner for the city, and drunk.  Most importantly he was a jerk.  Just try being nice and you will see it works pretty well.

Common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norms.  Courtesy.  Common sense.  These are all needed by cyclists if they want a place on the road.</p>
<p>Now I'm a bike rider.  Not a commuter.  A rider who puts on the spandex, helmet, and cool shades.  I get down to business and get my miles in.  I roll through stop signs, run the reds when they won't turn for me, and take a full lane when safety demands it.  I also respect cars, get out of the way when possible, and mind pedestrians.  I signal my turns, talk to drivers politely, and nod appreciatively.</p>
<p>The fact is there are jerks on bikes and jerks in cars.  Every time you turn around you read about one or the other causing problems.  In Portland the other day it was a cyclist using his bike to bash the motorist's car.  Nice.  He was also a transportation planner for the city, and drunk.  Most importantly he was a jerk.  Just try being nice and you will see it works pretty well.</p>
<p>Common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike rides on road.  Car rides on road.  Bike moves in front of car.  Car fails to stop.  Ooops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bike rides on road.  Car rides on road.  Bike moves in front of car.  Car fails to stop.  Ooops.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian J.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cant_peddle_55/comment-page-1/#comment-454562</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hipsters ride bikes; they&#039;re special and deserve special rules.  BECAUSE OF THE COOLNESS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hipsters ride bikes; they're special and deserve special rules.  BECAUSE OF THE COOLNESS!</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cant_peddle_55/comment-page-1/#comment-454554</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;invented lane&#039; is a real problem. It&#039;s not just the middle of the road, of course, but also on the right. I was in a taxi in DC that had pulled up to let me out. It wasn&#039;t on the curb, though, and a bicyclist thought there was enough room to pass on the right, not realizing I was about to get out.

Well, the open door met the bike; bicyclist hit the road; door was seriously sprung. Good thing I wasn&#039;t quicker getting out or I&#039;d have been on my way to the emergency room.

I&#039;m happy to accord bikes all the protection they&#039;re granted by law, even when it means I&#039;m driving at 15 mph down Beach Drive in the wake of a bike or two. But this is predicated on their obeying traffic laws as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 'invented lane' is a real problem. It's not just the middle of the road, of course, but also on the right. I was in a taxi in DC that had pulled up to let me out. It wasn't on the curb, though, and a bicyclist thought there was enough room to pass on the right, not realizing I was about to get out.</p>
<p>Well, the open door met the bike; bicyclist hit the road; door was seriously sprung. Good thing I wasn't quicker getting out or I'd have been on my way to the emergency room.</p>
<p>I'm happy to accord bikes all the protection they're granted by law, even when it means I'm driving at 15 mph down Beach Drive in the wake of a bike or two. But this is predicated on their obeying traffic laws as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Megan McArdle argues that drivers who exceed the speed limit in their cars have no right to get angry at bikers who run stop signs and red lights, weave in and out of traffic, and otherwise ignore traffic laws&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Someone doing 5 or even 10 over isn&#039;t nearly the flow blockage that one bike can be, particularly when they&#039;re behaving in the manner you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Megan McArdle argues that drivers who exceed the speed limit in their cars have no right to get angry at bikers who run stop signs and red lights, weave in and out of traffic, and otherwise ignore traffic laws</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone doing 5 or even 10 over isn't nearly the flow blockage that one bike can be, particularly when they're behaving in the manner you suggest.</p>
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