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	<title>Comments on: Captured British Marines &#8216;Gathered Intelligence&#8217; on Iran</title>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/captured_british_marines_gathered_intelligence_on_iran/comment-page-1/#comment-119268</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re pulling the wool over our eyes, James. You really wanted that 13:37 timestamp so you could be &quot;leet.&quot;

Yeah, that&#039;s the ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you're pulling the wool over our eyes, James. You really wanted that 13:37 timestamp so you could be "leet."</p>
<p>Yeah, that's the ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:  Right you are.  There&#039;s no evidence of which I&#039;m aware, though, that the Brits were in Iranian waters and at least some evidence (albeit supplied by the Brits) that they weren&#039;t.  Logically, too, one presumes the Brits would have at least been a bit more surreptitious were they in Iranian waters or in any doubt.  Say, operating at night or something.

&lt;em&gt;(I wrote that a couple minutes after Jim&#039;s comment.  The combination of the Preview feature and a wonky internet connection made it not go through.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:  Right you are.  There's no evidence of which I'm aware, though, that the Brits were in Iranian waters and at least some evidence (albeit supplied by the Brits) that they weren't.  Logically, too, one presumes the Brits would have at least been a bit more surreptitious were they in Iranian waters or in any doubt.  Say, operating at night or something.</p>
<p><em>(I wrote that a couple minutes after Jim's comment.  The combination of the Preview feature and a wonky internet connection made it not go through.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Okay, but not a conversation he should’ve been having, period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Why not?  As James pointed out, they weren&#039;t covert, they were doing what soldiers do while in a war zone.  The interview sounded like he was describing his daily routine, nothing secretive.  Iran surely knew they were being watched without him having to tell them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Okay, but not a conversation he should&rsquo;ve been having, period.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why not?  As James pointed out, they weren't covert, they were doing what soldiers do while in a war zone.  The interview sounded like he was describing his daily routine, nothing secretive.  Iran surely knew they were being watched without him having to tell them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, but not a conversation he should&#039;ve been having, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, but not a conversation he should've been having, period.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;One would think that the good captain could keep his mouth shut a few days, at least.&lt;/em&gt;

That was my initial reaction as well but, re-reading the piece, it&#039;s clear that the conversation occurred a few days before the capture and the report was embargoed until their safe return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>One would think that the good captain could keep his mouth shut a few days, at least.</em></p>
<p>That was my initial reaction as well but, re-reading the piece, it's clear that the conversation occurred a few days before the capture and the report was embargoed until their safe return.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would think that the good captain could keep his mouth shut a few days, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would think that the good captain could keep his mouth shut a few days, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: shipmate</title>
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		<dc:creator>shipmate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s problematic here is the loose way in which language about intelligence operations is used.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely. As I was taught by the Navy during the Cold War, &quot;Loose lips sink ships&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What&rsquo;s problematic here is the loose way in which language about intelligence operations is used.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. As I was taught by the Navy during the Cold War, "Loose lips sink ships".</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Henley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Uniformed military personnel operating in marked vessels in waters they have every right to be in using the naked eye to observe a hostile power are not, however, in any meaningful sense, “spies.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely!

Unless they were in fact in Iranian waters, though the border is under such dispute that I doubt you can really say some patches are &quot;Iraq&quot; or &quot;Iran&quot; with neutral certainty. Or if someone aboard ship - say, a military intelligence officer or MI6 guy in an ensign costume - was using all those meetings with fishing boats to run agents into Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Uniformed military personnel operating in marked vessels in waters they have every right to be in using the naked eye to observe a hostile power are not, however, in any meaningful sense, “spies.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely!</p>
<p>Unless they were in fact in Iranian waters, though the border is under such dispute that I doubt you can really say some patches are "Iraq" or "Iran" with neutral certainty. Or if someone aboard ship - say, a military intelligence officer or MI6 guy in an ensign costume - was using all those meetings with fishing boats to run agents into Iran.</p>
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