Comments on: Change.gov You Can Believe In

By: Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:51:29 +0000

so?

By: DL

DL — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:13:47 +0000

After thorough study of the facts I've concluded that the domain name was finally awarded pri,marily because the KPS effect was in play.

KPS is the Kathleen Parker Syndrone.

By: Michelle Malkin: Document drop: The story behind Change.gov | Impeach Barack Hussein Obama.US Blogs

Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:35:05 +0000

[...] Change.gov You Can Believe In [...]

By: Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:53:19 +0000

ok, so once again, whats the problem?
You guys were sure not ones for following rules over the past 8 years. Things change quickly, dont they?

By: odograph

odograph — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:00:35 +0000

What was the problem? A government agency had internal bureaucratic rules about how to assign the names they administered. A new President wanted a certain name, and the administration said it violated their rules (not "laws") ... until they realized ... wait a minute he'll be the President, and we are in the Administrative Branch! Doh.

By: Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:48:14 +0000

I dont get it... what is the problem here?

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:26:45 +0000

when I worked for an ISP in the late 90s, we could register a .edu or .org for anybody that wanted one, so this flap about breaking the rules for a .gov makes me laugh.

It shouldn't.
Whereas ICANN is toothless, I think you'll find the federal government isn't.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:36:17 +0000

My understanding of the matter was that ICANN gave the GSA the entire top level, and the GSA deals with it past that.

Right, ICANN only controlled .com, .net, .org, .edu and (I think) .us TLDs. It never even enforced the original restrictions on those, when I worked for an ISP in the late 90s, we could register a .edu or .org for anybody that wanted one, so this flap about breaking the rules for a .gov makes me laugh. Besides, now that they're going to allow generic TLDs, he could register change.newgov or change.wecanbelieveinor or whatever the hell else he wants.

By: steve s

steve s — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:21:27 +0000

I'm an Obama supporter, but I admit he's been a bit presumptuous. A minor sin. Is there an "office of the president elect"? not to my knowledge. That said, I wish the lame-duck period was reduced, and the new pres could take office, say, a month after the election. The nearly 3-month period leads to certain problems. I don't think the previous president should be escorted from the building by security, like I've been at several private-sector jobs, but we need to make the change more efficient.

By: odograph

odograph — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:05:17 +0000

Darn. I Was Wrong.

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:53:11 +0000

We were the most free, richest nation.

Ah yes, the days before Bush...

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:45:28 +0000

(and get this, Bithead) the GSA doesn't own .gov anyway.

Arrrhhhhh Sorry, wrong answer.

Why is .gov not mentioned above? How can I register a .gov domain name?

The .gov registry does not currently have a contract with ICANN. The .gov top-level domain is operated by the United States General Services Administration. For more information on registering names in .gov, see http://www.nic.gov.

By: Bithead

Bithead — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:24:28 +0000

My understanding of the matter was that ICANN gave the GSA the entire top level, and the GSA deals with it past that.

By: odograph

odograph — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:47:15 +0000

BTW James, if you want to do add a little to the name story, explain to me why the GSA felt it was their role. It's still ICANN, right?

"ICANN (pronounced /aɪkæn/, eye-can) is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. Headquartered in Marina Del Rey, California, United States, ICANN is a non-profit corporation that was created on September 18, 1998 in order to oversee a number of Internet-related tasks previously performed directly on behalf of the U.S. government by other organizations, notably the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)."

-- wikipedia Given the global naming responsibility, I can see the ICANN perhaps deletaging *.us.gov to some US governmental organ, but if anything the change.gov is an international question ;-). it supersedes change.uk.gov or change.jp.gov, etc. Anyway, my reading of Malkin's notes says that they went outside the GSA because (and get this, Bithead) the GSA doesn't own .gov anyway. it only owns gsa areas of the .gov domain (for current *.us.gov operations, I'd guess). No "laws" to be broken. Overall it sounds like a tempest in a teapot, tempered with some lack of ICANN understanding.

By: odograph

odograph — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:33:53 +0000

Interesting, this change.gov post is popular enough that it is gaining ground at memeorandum: “The search for knowledge, truth and a greater understanding of the world around us” As I've predicted here before, many of you guys will end up loving it ... I predict Obama is going pro-nuke.