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	<title>Comments on: CHICKEN HAWKS III</title>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8007</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More political correctness?  I&#039;m sure if we can get treasonous, unpatriotic and other words from being attached to liberals - not to mention statist, totalitarian and communist - we can probably reach agreement.

Until then, I think this will fall on deaf ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More political correctness?  I'm sure if we can get treasonous, unpatriotic and other words from being attached to liberals - not to mention statist, totalitarian and communist - we can probably reach agreement.</p>
<p>Until then, I think this will fall on deaf ears.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8008</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither does much to advance the debate.  

The &quot;chicken hawk&quot; label is particularly silly in its premise, because it implies that only some people are allowed to talk about public policy. Still, all the ad hominem-type arguments get us away from discussing the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither does much to advance the debate.  </p>
<p>The "chicken hawk" label is particularly silly in its premise, because it implies that only some people are allowed to talk about public policy. Still, all the ad hominem-type arguments get us away from discussing the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8009</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I don&#039;t use it myself, and think it&#039;s rather childish shorthand.  But my point remains.  The term Chickenhawk is a democratic creation and we should stop using it.  However, my list of words that belong to the other side are in far more common use.  Heck, even my good friend Paul gives me a liberal helping (pun intended) of them from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I don't use it myself, and think it's rather childish shorthand.  But my point remains.  The term Chickenhawk is a democratic creation and we should stop using it.  However, my list of words that belong to the other side are in far more common use.  Heck, even my good friend Paul gives me a liberal helping (pun intended) of them from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8010</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/archives/2003_11_09_dneiwert_archive.html#106873808557482314&quot;&gt;Dave&#039;s latest&lt;/a&gt;.  I know you&#039;ll think it insane, but at least give it a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, check out <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/archives/2003_11_09_dneiwert_archive.html#106873808557482314">Dave's latest</a>.  I know you'll think it insane, but at least give it a read.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8011</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there is a different JC...

When I call you an idiot is not just calling you a name... it is an accurate description. 



Since you still don&#039;t get it... I&#039;ll explain it.

If you notice carefully I tend to react to people EXACTLY the way they behave plus 10% for illustrations sake. This technique drives people like you crazy.

When the rare liberal is found that can hold an intelligent debate I act accordingly.

When idiots like Kevin at Calpunditz say that liberals should bash conservative and be rude about it, I will tear him to shreds. (and son of a gun, I&#039;ll be rude about it)

Your problem is that you have no clue what intelligent discourse is. All you know is to throw bombs at the other side. (and you even brag that you don&#039;t care if what you say is true or accurate.)  

When you act like that, you have not earned anything that resembles respect and actually get a fair amount of distain.

And son of a gun, I react accordingly.

Since you have replied 3 times to this post, you apparently see this as a great evil.  You claim it is a great evil on both sides. OK Let&#039;s see if you mean it or you are a hopeless hypocrite. 

You can raise the level of discourse and set the example. You can quit throwing bombs and discuss things in an intelligent way.

Will you do it, or are you a liar?

Paul

BTW- I wouldn&#039;t take that bet with the points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there is a different JC...</p>
<p>When I call you an idiot is not just calling you a name... it is an accurate description. </p>
<p>Since you still don't get it... I'll explain it.</p>
<p>If you notice carefully I tend to react to people EXACTLY the way they behave plus 10% for illustrations sake. This technique drives people like you crazy.</p>
<p>When the rare liberal is found that can hold an intelligent debate I act accordingly.</p>
<p>When idiots like Kevin at Calpunditz say that liberals should bash conservative and be rude about it, I will tear him to shreds. (and son of a gun, I'll be rude about it)</p>
<p>Your problem is that you have no clue what intelligent discourse is. All you know is to throw bombs at the other side. (and you even brag that you don't care if what you say is true or accurate.)  </p>
<p>When you act like that, you have not earned anything that resembles respect and actually get a fair amount of distain.</p>
<p>And son of a gun, I react accordingly.</p>
<p>Since you have replied 3 times to this post, you apparently see this as a great evil.  You claim it is a great evil on both sides. OK Let's see if you mean it or you are a hopeless hypocrite. </p>
<p>You can raise the level of discourse and set the example. You can quit throwing bombs and discuss things in an intelligent way.</p>
<p>Will you do it, or are you a liar?</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>BTW- I wouldn't take that bet with the points.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8012</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Paul.  You pretty much prove my point.  Touche&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Paul.  You pretty much prove my point.  Touche'</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8013</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you mine JC...

Your protestations fall on deaf ears as long you partake in the exact behavior you condone.

See.. Calling you a hypocrite is not just invective, it&#039;s accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you mine JC...</p>
<p>Your protestations fall on deaf ears as long you partake in the exact behavior you condone.</p>
<p>See.. Calling you a hypocrite is not just invective, it's accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8014</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul.  I do appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul.  I do appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox Molder</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8015</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox Molder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChickenHawk properly refers only to people who stressed the importance of a war while personally avoiding service in said conflict.

Its a colorful way of saying &#039;hypocrite&#039;. It has no bearing on a &#039;right&#039; to comment on making war, it merely (if correctly applied) brings up the chickenhawk&#039;s consistency and possibly elitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChickenHawk properly refers only to people who stressed the importance of a war while personally avoiding service in said conflict.</p>
<p>Its a colorful way of saying 'hypocrite'. It has no bearing on a 'right' to comment on making war, it merely (if correctly applied) brings up the chickenhawk's consistency and possibly elitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Overtaken by Events</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/chicken_hawks_ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8016</link>
		<dc:creator>Overtaken by Events</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nanny-Nanny Boo-Boo&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner decries the return of the &quot;chicken hawk&quot; meme and makes a plea for civility: I&#039;ve been noticing a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Nanny-Nanny Boo-Boo</strong><br />
James Joyner decries the return of the "chicken hawk" meme and makes a plea for civility: I've been noticing a...</p>
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		<title>By: Hellblazer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellblazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dean&#039;s Modern World&lt;/strong&gt;
I know that I&#039;ll probably get in trouble for this, but I shall link to this in the name of Freedom. The last time I linked to Dean Esmay, he threatened to send some burly military types over to rough...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dean's Modern World</strong><br />
I know that I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I shall link to this in the name of Freedom. The last time I linked to Dean Esmay, he threatened to send some burly military types over to rough...</p>
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