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		<title>By: Will China step-up as a pre-eminent power with the financial crisis? &#187; A Couple Things &#187; A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will China step-up as a pre-eminent power with the financial crisis? &#187; A Couple Things &#187; A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a golden opportunity. With the global financial crisis upon us, China is in a position to dictate the terms upon which the new international political economic order will be based. Consider this: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has a golden opportunity. With the global financial crisis upon us, China is in a position to dictate the terms upon which the new international political economic order will be based. Consider this: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: linda henry</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/china_as_economic_engine/comment-page-1/#comment-519234</link>
		<dc:creator>linda henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China&#039;s one child policy has lead to rampant child kidnapping.  Couples pay middle men to kidnap boys (and pay more for them) but will also pay for girls, either for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.global-sisterhood-network.org/content/view/2097/59/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;slave labor&lt;/a&gt;, or to marry off their own son when she&#039;s older.  Teenage girls are kidnapped and sold into marriage or prostitution.  Just google &quot;china black market children.&quot; Watch HBO&#039;s China&#039;s Stolen Children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China's one child policy has lead to rampant child kidnapping.  Couples pay middle men to kidnap boys (and pay more for them) but will also pay for girls, either for <a href="http://www.global-sisterhood-network.org/content/view/2097/59/" rel="nofollow">slave labor</a>, or to marry off their own son when she's older.  Teenage girls are kidnapped and sold into marriage or prostitution.  Just google "china black market children." Watch HBO's China's Stolen Children.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the entire responsibility.  China does have social insurance in the form of government-managed retirement funds which will pay people an amount based on their salary when working, provided that the company agreed to give this benefit to the worker in the first place.  Some Chinese companies overseas offer no welfare benefits to workers, while foreign workers in China working for Chinese firms generally don&#039;t get these benefits either.

But once you get past this, while Chinese social insurance is a form of supplemental income, it&#039;s not enough, and it does put Chinese into the bind of having their children provide for most things in their old age, which in turn makes the majority of Chinese marriages an economic arrangement wherein the husband agrees to pay for the living costs for his wife&#039;s parents AND his own.

Incidentally, these generational transfer payments are not one-sided.  Parents usually provide for the majority of their children&#039;s educational expenses (scholarships don&#039;t) and middle- to upper-class Chinese will buy a house for their children.  For the Chinese government to effectively break open this piggy bank as the Times endorses would require pretty massive handouts.

As for improving consumption, Wen Jiabao has made this a goal in recent years, though the biggest problem is the need to balance increased consumption (lower taxes and interest rates to increase consumer spending) and development of the economy in the Chinese periphery (which arguably requires more taxes and higher interest rates, the former for infrastructure development and the latter to create the capital pool needed for loans to fledgling businesses in the countryside).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the entire responsibility.  China does have social insurance in the form of government-managed retirement funds which will pay people an amount based on their salary when working, provided that the company agreed to give this benefit to the worker in the first place.  Some Chinese companies overseas offer no welfare benefits to workers, while foreign workers in China working for Chinese firms generally don't get these benefits either.</p>
<p>But once you get past this, while Chinese social insurance is a form of supplemental income, it's not enough, and it does put Chinese into the bind of having their children provide for most things in their old age, which in turn makes the majority of Chinese marriages an economic arrangement wherein the husband agrees to pay for the living costs for his wife's parents AND his own.</p>
<p>Incidentally, these generational transfer payments are not one-sided.  Parents usually provide for the majority of their children's educational expenses (scholarships don't) and middle- to upper-class Chinese will buy a house for their children.  For the Chinese government to effectively break open this piggy bank as the Times endorses would require pretty massive handouts.</p>
<p>As for improving consumption, Wen Jiabao has made this a goal in recent years, though the biggest problem is the need to balance increased consumption (lower taxes and interest rates to increase consumer spending) and development of the economy in the Chinese periphery (which arguably requires more taxes and higher interest rates, the former for infrastructure development and the latter to create the capital pool needed for loans to fledgling businesses in the countryside).</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/china_as_economic_engine/comment-page-1/#comment-519142</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t there an inflationary risk as well? Right now, the Chinese economy is growing by 8-10%, which is pretty much has to in order to absorb the tens of millions of people flowing into its cities every year from the countryside (supposedly, they are already seeing tougher times with employment and urban discontent just with the slightly lowered growth rate below 10%).

Money is flowing into the economy, and a lot of it is going down to the local Chinese (who save it), and to the banks (which reinvest it in other countries). Now, if all that money was flowing in the Chinese economy, wouldn&#039;t that cause a serious rise in the amount of currency in China, risking inflation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't there an inflationary risk as well? Right now, the Chinese economy is growing by 8-10%, which is pretty much has to in order to absorb the tens of millions of people flowing into its cities every year from the countryside (supposedly, they are already seeing tougher times with employment and urban discontent just with the slightly lowered growth rate below 10%).</p>
<p>Money is flowing into the economy, and a lot of it is going down to the local Chinese (who save it), and to the banks (which reinvest it in other countries). Now, if all that money was flowing in the Chinese economy, wouldn't that cause a serious rise in the amount of currency in China, risking inflation?</p>
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