Comments on: CIA Executive Director Under Investigation for Bribery

By: Insider

Insider — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:11:33 +0000

Foggo was in fact an SIS Level 3 (the CIA equivalent of SES-3)when he was selected to become the Executive Director. He was hardly mid-level. So-called "Agency veterans" are merely engaging in that favorite of all Agency retiree sports, dime dropping on the ignorant.

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:24:32 +0000

DCL: Could be, although SES's are pretty rare even in DC. At DISA, certainly, GS-15s (essentially, equivalent to an Army/Air Force/Marine colonel or Navy captain) are ridiculously prolific but there are very, very few SES's (general/flag officer equivalent).

By: DC Loser

DC Loser — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 02:55:41 +0000

Inside the beltway, a midranking bureaucrat is basically anybody who isn't an SES. GS/GM/GG-15s are not considered senior in the DC agencies. Most of them work in cubicles the size of phone booths.

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:21:58 +0000

Boy, I sure hope we aren't indicting people based on their friendships. Even "closest friend"-ships. Even spouses of crooks don't necessarily go to jail...

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:49:33 +0000

Scott,

At least in my agency, GS/GM are virtually interchangable, with few GM's. My Program Manager is a GS-15, for example.

By: Scott_T

Scott_T — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:34:37 +0000

Isn't GS General Service (ie non-management) and GM General Management (ie management). Probably different for the CIA knowing my luck commenting on this.

When I worked for the USACE GS-12 were Engineers designing Damns. GM-14(IIRC) were the Civilian equivalents running individual Divisions (Engineering, Planning, Construction) and the Army Colonel ran the entire Regional Office.