Comments on: Colonel Denies Disparaging Murtha

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:34:19 +0000

Legion,
Dead on. I will no longer vote for a Republican b/c I think they will spend less. As far as the war...well I just hope that someone comes up w/ a plan soon - support our troops, support the effort, but vote for a politician who has a plan (no that does not mean a repub or democrat - it is the one with an actual plan).

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:56:22 +0000

Schmidt misquoted Col. Bubp, and then backpedaled from her own words at a great speed when she realized her mouth was getting her into political trouble.

In her first speech on the floor, Rep. Schmidt promised not to indulge in character assignation, a promise she forgot when she saw a chance to score points with Bush.

I think we all know who the coward is here.

By: Herb

Herb — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:34:16 +0000

While Murtha was a hero ans served with distinction in Vietnam, He has lost his will to fight the battle in Iraq. His words were as Schmidt said "cowardly". The only problem with Schmidt is that she had her statement eliminated from the record. Murtha "surrendered" to the extremist left and sang to their cowardly tune. The Dems turned tail and run like jackrabbits in Vietnam and are doing the same thing in Iraq. Then there are guys like Anderson who also bought into the Dems line and wants to "find fault" with everything including all the GOOD work being acomplished in Iraq but mever, never talked about in the Left Wing Media. The Dems make me sick with their LIES and political BS. They will and are doing everything to regain power and They would even sell our country "down the river" to get it.

By: Dale

Dale — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:01:02 +0000

Oh... and by the way we brought all of our dead, wounded, equipment and all of the equipment that the Army left behind as well.

By: Dale

Dale — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:58:11 +0000

The "cutting and running" the 1st Marine Division (22,000 Marines) and the 3d Regimental Combat Team, 7th Cav, U.S. Army (3000) did at Chosin rendered 9 Chinese Divisions (close to 100,000 men) combat ineffective. General O. P. Smith said it best when he said "We're not retreating we're attacking in another direction." (or words to that effect). Dale Gunnery Sergeant, U.S. Marine Corps

By: Herb

Herb — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:36:46 +0000

Anderson:

Looks like you are drinking to much. But then again, after reading most of you anti war, anti Bush comments, you have been drinking to much on a regular basis. I hear the distileries have been working overtime. Now I know why.

By: legion

legion — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:57:29 +0000

It's simple, DCL. If Republicans propose it, it's a wise tactical withdrawal. It Dems suggest it, it's a cowardly retreat. Read your talking points, man!

By: Herb

Herb — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:38:03 +0000

Anjin San:

Damn. I am proud of you. For the first time you stated something POSITIVE and did not run someone into the ground.
My sincere congratulations to you for upholding a branch of our proud Armed Forces in battle.

Keep it up,

By: Anderson

Anderson — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:34:32 +0000

So let's see, the Republicans hate the military, and Anjin-San is defending the Marines.

I'm drinkin' too much or not enough ... ;)

By: DC Loser

DC Loser — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:23:58 +0000

Boy did I cause a stink here. I guess cuttin' and runnin' and retreating in the face of overwhelming enemy numbers is in the eye of the beholder. My point about the "cut and run" comment made in the House was that sometimes retreating isn't necessarily a bad thing, or else Hitler's and Stalin's "no retreat" dictates would be considered brilliant military strategy. I work with many active duty Marines, so I have no problem telling this to their face. My point is that you do have to adjust your plans and make tactical decisions to retreat when it is called for. Was Murtha's point to cut and run or was it a tactical decision based on situational realities in Iraq? That's what the debate is about.

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:10:13 +0000

DC,

My uncle was at Chosin. The Marines damn near did fight to the death. Certainly a great many of them did lose their lives there, fighting in brutal conditions while running out of supplies. Despite being vastly outnumbered, they displayed heroism to a level seldom seen.

Retreating after a brutal fight in the face of an enemy that badly outnumbers you is hardly "cutting and running".

I had a Marine in my bar last night DC, maybe I can arrange for you to tell him to his face how the Marines "cut & ran".

I have met a lot of the Frozen Chozen Marines that survived. A great group of guys, hero's all.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:43:24 +0000

Of course Schmidt is an idiot, but why is she also a liar? Nobody could believe that calling someone a "coward" isn't disparaging. Can't she just say she's sorry?

By: McGehee

McGehee — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:59:11 +0000

DC, there's cuttin'-and-runnin', and then there's retreatin' in the face of overwhelming enemy numbers and an overstretched supply line. Your "If they didnât cut and run, then they could have stayed and fought to the death." is, dare I say it, lacking in nuance.

By: DC Loser

DC Loser — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:47:41 +0000

I have to ask this about the Marines never cut and run legend. If so, just what exactly was the little hike they took from the Chosin Reservoir? If they didn't cut and run, then they could have stayed and fought to the death.

By: QandO

QandO — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:12:47 +0000

Defending Congressman Murtha Via Outside The Beltway, evidence that Representative Schmidt wasn't just being "the messenger" when she said Colonel Bubp had "asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, marines never do."