The court turned down the case on the grounds that it was "frivolous"?? I think not.

Oh, do tell...

So we're to assume that because Obama fails to cler that bar, that the bar is set too high, instead of questioning his fitness to serve?

Obama did clear the bar, for me, for the vast majority of Americans, and for every court that this silly case has been dumped in. Every reasonable bar, set by any reasonable person, has been cleared. The only bar remaining is the one set by people unwilling to accept his eligibility regardless of any amount of evidence shown to them, who in all likelihood could not clear that bar themselves.

So I ask again, Bithead, to what extent should a political candidate go to prove conspiracy theorists wrong?

Prove it to what level? Every legal document he's presented has been called a forgery, every verification by a government official called a conspiracy, every explanation of the multiple reasons Obama is eligible has been ignored.

So I ask you, Bithead, to what level should elected officials be obligated to convince conspiracy theorists that they are wrong?

So we're to assume that because Obama fails to cler that bar, that the bar is set too high, instead of questioning his fitness to serve?

In any event, consider it this way; If he is in fact eligible for the office, is it really so much to ask for him… or anyone else running for the office, for that matter, to prove it?

Prove it to what level? Every legal document he's presented has been called a forgery, every verification by a government official called a conspiracy, every explanation of the multiple reasons Obama is eligible has been ignored.

So I ask you, Bithead, to what level should elected officials be obligated to convince conspiracy theorists that they are wrong?

For one thing, if I was Obama, I might want the air cleared, assuming that I actually had a valid Birth cert. There’s no denying the case has grown legs in public opinion, and the public interest, to say nothing of Obama’s… would have been well served to have the matter fully read into the record.

I’m not convinced we should be quite so dismissive of the charge, or those bringing it. Obama may possibly be well proven to be eligible for the office of POTUS, but I have yet to see such an argument presented, from ANY corner, particularly Obama’s. With all respect to James, all he could do was speculate based on what documentation we've been presented, which was at least questionably a forgery. Indeed, all I've seen is derision of people asking the question, which may or may not be deserved.

In any event, consider it this way; If he is in fact eligible for the office, is it really so much to ask for him… or anyone else running for the office, for that matter, to prove it?

I'm looking for a place without Internet, in order to avoid the lunacy that propagates through it. A place without network or cable TV. Someplace where I can just watch the loonies self-destruct, or preferably hear about it six months later.

I'll settle for a national plan to put lithium in the drinking water in the US.

Can you get an internet connection? If so, I'd be good...well with a couple cases of scotch instead of beer....

single malt of course... eh, Steve?
By the by, an informal survey: What is your favorite "cheap" single malt? (mine is Aberlour, tho Ardbeg(nice and peaty) is is in the running)

Just don't forget to pack every video game known to man, a ton of books, a pallet of beer, and your sunlamp.

Can you get an internet connection? If so, I'd be good...well with a couple cases of scotch instead of beer....

If memory serves, this was all started by a Hillary supporter, not anybody on "the right".

Michael, my only problem with this whole meme is that, if there had been anything to this, are we supposed to beleive that the Clinton political machine (not to mention the McCain Campaign and the RNC) could find nothing to back it up?

I for one do not beleive for a second that if the Clinton campaign could have found a way to strike Obama from the primaries, they would have held back (I can assure you, Obama would do the same to her if he had the chance)("But he turned out to be practical and shrewd, a politician capable of playing hardball to win election (he squeezed every opponent out of his first race)", )(I can no longer find a story directly telling the tale, but he had his opponents "eliminated" from the race)

All this is just to say, politics is hardball. He went up against the Clintons and won. If they could not do it, what makes some wingnut from Pennsylvania think he can?

Absolutely right, what a load of nonsense to start with....let's hope the folks on the right can now get a life and move on!!!!

If memory serves, this was all started by a Hillary supporter, not anybody on "the right".

I havent a clue weather he's a real citizen or not

Nor, it seems, as to whether to use "weather" or "whether".

I havent a clue weather he's a real citizen or not,....

Yeah and who cares about your cluelessness? It is so large that it is futile for a rational society to bother itself over.

Its just odd that Obama hasnt made any public statements about this.
I havent a clue weather he's a real citizen or not, but its provocative since Obama is giving it the cold shoulder rather than facing it head on and putting an end to it.

According to this article:

"According to a birth certificate for Obama made public by his campaign, the president-elect was born in Hawaii in August 1961, two years after the archipelago became a state."
That would seem to me to be "facing it head on" in an attempt to put it to rest. (obviously enough, it was not good enough for some)

What is a "vault copy"? I have had to get several over the years, and a "certified copy" was always good enough for me and my sons.