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	<title>Comments on: CPAC &#8211; Giuliani Time</title>
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		<title>By: Emmett Grogan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpac_-_giuliani_time/comment-page-1/#comment-114928</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmett Grogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giuliani tax cuts? Fiscal conservative? First thing Bloomberg had to do: 18% property TAX INCREASE because of over 2Billion deficit from G. 
Long term NYC debt when G took over from Dinkins=$12 Billion. When he left=$61 Billion. Great fiscal hokus-pokus.
Job Centers? A total hoax, Workfare, the old reactionary solution to poverty. Punishment. Over 600,000 lost Food Stamps/benefits, 2/3rds children.See &quot;Giuliani Time&quot; film.&quot;Grand Illusion&quot;book. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giuliani tax cuts? Fiscal conservative? First thing Bloomberg had to do: 18% property TAX INCREASE because of over 2Billion deficit from G.<br />
Long term NYC debt when G took over from Dinkins=$12 Billion. When he left=$61 Billion. Great fiscal hokus-pokus.<br />
Job Centers? A total hoax, Workfare, the old reactionary solution to poverty. Punishment. Over 600,000 lost Food Stamps/benefits, 2/3rds children.See "Giuliani Time" film."Grand Illusion"book.<br />
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpac_-_giuliani_time/comment-page-1/#comment-114851</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The emergency management office was in WTC 7, whereas the ‘93 WTC attack was on WTC 1. When was WTC 7 targeted?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhhh...WTC 7 was destroyed on 9/11.

The World Trade Center was a 7-building complex which was first attacked in Feb. 1993 by Al-Quadea. 

Giuliani went to the WTC 3  command center on the morning of 9/11, but had to evacuate it because the building was structurally unsound after being hit by debris from the larger buildings in the WTC complex.

It took days for the city to get a functioning communications structure operating after the attack due primarily to the fact that the $18 million facility was destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The emergency management office was in WTC 7, whereas the ‘93 WTC attack was on WTC 1. When was WTC 7 targeted?</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhhh...WTC 7 was destroyed on 9/11.</p>
<p>The World Trade Center was a 7-building complex which was first attacked in Feb. 1993 by Al-Quadea. </p>
<p>Giuliani went to the WTC 3  command center on the morning of 9/11, but had to evacuate it because the building was structurally unsound after being hit by debris from the larger buildings in the WTC complex.</p>
<p>It took days for the city to get a functioning communications structure operating after the attack due primarily to the fact that the $18 million facility was destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there&#039;s an additional, alternative question: what counter terrorism center was in WTC 1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there's an additional, alternative question: what counter terrorism center was in WTC 1?</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpac_-_giuliani_time/comment-page-1/#comment-114837</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...the city’s counter-terrorism center in the World Trade Center even though the building had been targeted in the past?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;ve said this at least a couple of times, Triumph, and I&#039;m still confused. The emergency management office was in WTC 7, whereas the &#039;93 WTC attack was on WTC 1. When was WTC 7 targeted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...the city&rsquo;s counter-terrorism center in the World Trade Center even though the building had been targeted in the past?</p></blockquote>
<p>You've said this at least a couple of times, Triumph, and I'm still confused. The emergency management office was in WTC 7, whereas the '93 WTC attack was on WTC 1. When was WTC 7 targeted?</p>
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		<title>By: CPAC Bloggers &#187; Presidential Candidates = Rock Stars @ CPAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPAC Bloggers &#187; Presidential Candidates = Rock Stars @ CPAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rudy Giuliani • Scott Olin Schmidt at Boi From Troy • Ed Morrissey at Captain&#8217;s Quarters • Amanda Carpenter at Human Events • Michelle Malkin • James Joyner at Outside the Beltway • Charmaine Yoest at Reasoned Audacity • Erick Erickson at RedState • Moe Lane at RedState • Amanda Carpenter at RedState • C. Jane Stewart at See Jane Mom • John Tabin at American Spectator • Jonathan Martin at The Politico • Mary Katharine Ham at Townhall • Patrick Ruffini at Townhall • Dean Barnett at Townhall [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rudy Giuliani • Scott Olin Schmidt at Boi From Troy • Ed Morrissey at Captain&#8217;s Quarters • Amanda Carpenter at Human Events • Michelle Malkin • James Joyner at Outside the Beltway • Charmaine Yoest at Reasoned Audacity • Erick Erickson at RedState • Moe Lane at RedState • Amanda Carpenter at RedState • C. Jane Stewart at See Jane Mom • John Tabin at American Spectator • Jonathan Martin at The Politico • Mary Katharine Ham at Townhall • Patrick Ruffini at Townhall • Dean Barnett at Townhall [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Whats your point? The issue is not whether Bill Clinton deserves praise for being a visionary leader or scorn for being a poll-driven pol. The issue is whether the change in NY was driven by federal legislation or whether it was a brilliant innovation of the mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Whats your point? The issue is not whether Bill Clinton deserves praise for being a visionary leader or scorn for being a poll-driven pol. The issue is whether the change in NY was driven by federal legislation or whether it was a brilliant innovation of the mayor.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpac_-_giuliani_time/comment-page-1/#comment-114821</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figure after Mitt finally gets the clue that he can&#039;t change colors enough to be a big-time primary threat, he&#039;ll drop out, and the knife-fight that will ensue between McCain and Giuliani will make the recent Obama-Clinton spat look like a love-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figure after Mitt finally gets the clue that he can't change colors enough to be a big-time primary threat, he'll drop out, and the knife-fight that will ensue between McCain and Giuliani will make the recent Obama-Clinton spat look like a love-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;CLinton’s welfare reform act&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean the bill he vetoed twice before realizing he had to sign it to help him with re-election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>CLinton&rsquo;s welfare reform act</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the bill he vetoed twice before realizing he had to sign it to help him with re-election?</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He emphasized his conservative accomplishments as NYC mayor, including enacting the first tax cuts in the city’s history, changing Welfare Centers to Job Placement Centers, and cracking down on crime.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The tax cuts claim is a bald-faced lie.  Ed Koch cut a variety of taxes--including property taxes--in the mid-1980s.

The Welfare to Job center thing was mandated by CLinton&#039;s welfare reform act.

I&#039;m not sure what the experience of &quot;cracking down on crime&quot; offers for the presidency since policing is largely the responsibility of local government.

Did he bring up the fact that it was his brilliant idea to put the city&#039;s counter-terrorism center in the World Trade Center even though the building had been targeted in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He emphasized his conservative accomplishments as NYC mayor, including enacting the first tax cuts in the city&rsquo;s history, changing Welfare Centers to Job Placement Centers, and cracking down on crime.</p></blockquote>
<p>The tax cuts claim is a bald-faced lie.  Ed Koch cut a variety of taxes--including property taxes--in the mid-1980s.</p>
<p>The Welfare to Job center thing was mandated by CLinton's welfare reform act.</p>
<p>I'm not sure what the experience of "cracking down on crime" offers for the presidency since policing is largely the responsibility of local government.</p>
<p>Did he bring up the fact that it was his brilliant idea to put the city's counter-terrorism center in the World Trade Center even though the building had been targeted in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: The Hotline's Blogometer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hotline's Blogometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;was strong, it was strong. He hammered home the point of the need to make decisions - over and over again - and there was a certain rustle through the audience clustered around the television when he talked about the threat of Islamic terrorism.&quot; Outside the Beltway&#039;s James Joyner: &quot;The speech, which I was able to watch via closed circuit television, was quite impressive. ... Interwoven throughout the speech, though, was what he said was Reagan&#039;s foremost lesson, that of optimistic leadership. Giuliani is not&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->was strong, it was strong. He hammered home the point of the need to make decisions - over and over again - and there was a certain rustle through the audience clustered around the television when he talked about the threat of Islamic terrorism." Outside the Beltway's James Joyner: "The speech, which I was able to watch via closed circuit television, was quite impressive. ... Interwoven throughout the speech, though, was what he said was Reagan's foremost lesson, that of optimistic leadership. Giuliani is not<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<dc:creator> » OTB News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Army Secretary Resigns Amid Walter Reed Probe Katie Couric in 3rd Place South Carolina Straw Poll Beltway Traffic Jam CPAC - Ann Coulter Swiss Accidentally Invade Liechtenstein Vilsack Whines About Polls CPAC - Jim Gilmore CPAC - Giuliani Time  [IMG OTB Sports]  Truth? You want the truth about Steroids? Former Dodger pitcher Clem Labine dead at age 80 2007 AL Fantasy Sleepers Manny is Manny Jake Plummer to Retire Rather than Go to Bucs Mia Hamm and Julie Foudy elected to the Soccer Hall of&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->Army Secretary Resigns Amid Walter Reed Probe Katie Couric in 3rd Place South Carolina Straw Poll Beltway Traffic Jam CPAC - Ann Coulter Swiss Accidentally Invade Liechtenstein Vilsack Whines About Polls CPAC - Jim Gilmore CPAC - Giuliani Time  [IMG OTB Sports]  Truth? You want the truth about Steroids? Former Dodger pitcher Clem Labine dead at age 80 2007 AL Fantasy Sleepers Manny is Manny Jake Plummer to Retire Rather than Go to Bucs Mia Hamm and Julie Foudy elected to the Soccer Hall of<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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