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	<title>Comments on: Captain Brad Schwan Fighting Stop Loss</title>
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		<title>By: SteveZ</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpt_brad_schwan_fighting_stop_loss/comment-page-1/#comment-81067</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD,

Take a look at the guy&#039;s website.  He didn&#039;t just blindly listen to the recruiter.  He called the head of personnel for his branch who (apparently lied and) verified the veracity of the memo.

And he had already been stop-lossed before.  Why shouldn&#039;t he have believed it.  In hindsight, now that the recruiter&#039;s pitch has been exposed for the fraud it was, it is easy to criticize, but if you have moved on with your life and getting mobilized would screw up your education, what would you do?  Sit back and hope for the best, or be proactive and try to remedy the situation as best you could given the circumstances.  That&#039;s all it looked like the Captain did.  Read OTB&#039;s other articles on the &quot;scam.&quot;  There was a significant boost in recruiting after this memo.  Are all those people uneducated, or just used to a military ready to screw them at the next turn?

If you have been in the military, it doesn&#039;t take much of an education to realize that you get screwed on a daily basis.  It&#039;s not hard to believe that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD,</p>
<p>Take a look at the guy's website.  He didn't just blindly listen to the recruiter.  He called the head of personnel for his branch who (apparently lied and) verified the veracity of the memo.</p>
<p>And he had already been stop-lossed before.  Why shouldn't he have believed it.  In hindsight, now that the recruiter's pitch has been exposed for the fraud it was, it is easy to criticize, but if you have moved on with your life and getting mobilized would screw up your education, what would you do?  Sit back and hope for the best, or be proactive and try to remedy the situation as best you could given the circumstances.  That's all it looked like the Captain did.  Read OTB's other articles on the "scam."  There was a significant boost in recruiting after this memo.  Are all those people uneducated, or just used to a military ready to screw them at the next turn?</p>
<p>If you have been in the military, it doesn't take much of an education to realize that you get screwed on a daily basis.  It's not hard to believe that.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/cpt_brad_schwan_fighting_stop_loss/comment-page-1/#comment-80987</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 11:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But a year into his IRR service, he said, he was told by a recruiter that if he didnâ??t join the Army Reserves there was a good chance he could be sent to the Middle East. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very likely this officer has a significantly better education than the recruiter who told him that.  If he can&#039;t see through the BS, as the lowliest of enlisted soldiers do every day, then he will not make a very good lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But a year into his IRR service, he said, he was told by a recruiter that if he didnâ??t join the Army Reserves there was a good chance he could be sent to the Middle East. </p></blockquote>
<p>Very likely this officer has a significantly better education than the recruiter who told him that.  If he can't see through the BS, as the lowliest of enlisted soldiers do every day, then he will not make a very good lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officers serve, technically, at he discretion of the president.  The Army has the right to extend contracts if they so desire.  Certainly, Schwan could not have been unaware of what was going on around him, and should not have been surprised.  Now he wants to cancel his side of the contract because it would be inconvenient to keep it.  Unfortunately, you can not divorce the military.  You have to live up to your side of the bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officers serve, technically, at he discretion of the president.  The Army has the right to extend contracts if they so desire.  Certainly, Schwan could not have been unaware of what was going on around him, and should not have been surprised.  Now he wants to cancel his side of the contract because it would be inconvenient to keep it.  Unfortunately, you can not divorce the military.  You have to live up to your side of the bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: RJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awful. The good old U.S. Army has press gangs. I hope the Capt. wins his suit. What a disgrace this administration has brought to the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awful. The good old U.S. Army has press gangs. I hope the Capt. wins his suit. What a disgrace this administration has brought to the military.</p>
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		<title>By: Delbert W Allegood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delbert W Allegood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His plight sounds much like the horror stories 
I read of the french foreign legion,as a child.People should realize that we are unlikely to have a draft again.There are far too many elitists in control.In initializing a draft there would be loud demands for the draft lottery.That lottery had a lot to do with the ending of the Vietnam war.It was becoming harder for the privileged to hide.There are only so many, stateside postal and air national guard units.once you sign military promises, they keep the signature and forget the promises.From then on, your rights are, what the government says they are.Only those who have enough power on their side will recieve any justice.Delbert W Allegood npublici</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His plight sounds much like the horror stories<br />
I read of the french foreign legion,as a child.People should realize that we are unlikely to have a draft again.There are far too many elitists in control.In initializing a draft there would be loud demands for the draft lottery.That lottery had a lot to do with the ending of the Vietnam war.It was becoming harder for the privileged to hide.There are only so many, stateside postal and air national guard units.once you sign military promises, they keep the signature and forget the promises.From then on, your rights are, what the government says they are.Only those who have enough power on their side will recieve any justice.Delbert W Allegood npublici</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Episode 8, Monty Python:

Cut to colonel&#039;s office. Colonel is seated at desk.

Colonel: Come in, what do you want?

Private Watkins enters and salutes.

Watkins: I&#039;d like to leave the army please, sir.

Colonel: Good heavens man, why?

Watkins: It&#039;s dangerous.

Colonel: What?

Watkins: There are people with guns out there, sir.

Colonel: What?

Watkins: Real guns, sir. Not toy ones, sir. Proper ones, sir. They&#039;ve all got &#039;em. All of &#039;em, sir. And some of &#039;em have got tanks.

Colonel: Watkins, they are on our side.

Watkins: And grenades, sir. And machine guns, sir. So I&#039;d like to leave, sir, before I get killed, please.

Colonel: Watkins, you&#039;ve only been in the army a day.

Watkins: I know sir but people get killed, properly dead, sir, no barley cross fingers, sir. A bloke was telling me, if you&#039;re in the army and there&#039;s a war you have to go and fight.

Colonel: That&#039;s true.

Watkins: Well I mean, blimey, I mean if it was a big war somebody could be hurt.

Colonel: Watkins why did you join the army?

Watkins: For the water-skiing and for the travel, sir. And not for the killing, sir. I asked them to put it on my form, sir - no killing.

Colonel: Watkins are you a pacifist?

Watkins: No sir, I&#039;m not a pacifist, sir. I&#039;m a coward.

Colonel: That&#039;s a very silly line. Sit down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 8, Monty Python:</p>
<p>Cut to colonel's office. Colonel is seated at desk.</p>
<p>Colonel: Come in, what do you want?</p>
<p>Private Watkins enters and salutes.</p>
<p>Watkins: I'd like to leave the army please, sir.</p>
<p>Colonel: Good heavens man, why?</p>
<p>Watkins: It's dangerous.</p>
<p>Colonel: What?</p>
<p>Watkins: There are people with guns out there, sir.</p>
<p>Colonel: What?</p>
<p>Watkins: Real guns, sir. Not toy ones, sir. Proper ones, sir. They've all got 'em. All of 'em, sir. And some of 'em have got tanks.</p>
<p>Colonel: Watkins, they are on our side.</p>
<p>Watkins: And grenades, sir. And machine guns, sir. So I'd like to leave, sir, before I get killed, please.</p>
<p>Colonel: Watkins, you've only been in the army a day.</p>
<p>Watkins: I know sir but people get killed, properly dead, sir, no barley cross fingers, sir. A bloke was telling me, if you're in the army and there's a war you have to go and fight.</p>
<p>Colonel: That's true.</p>
<p>Watkins: Well I mean, blimey, I mean if it was a big war somebody could be hurt.</p>
<p>Colonel: Watkins why did you join the army?</p>
<p>Watkins: For the water-skiing and for the travel, sir. And not for the killing, sir. I asked them to put it on my form, sir - no killing.</p>
<p>Colonel: Watkins are you a pacifist?</p>
<p>Watkins: No sir, I'm not a pacifist, sir. I'm a coward.</p>
<p>Colonel: That's a very silly line. Sit down.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom:  You&#039;re subject to recall because you&#039;re on the retired list receiving a retainer of 50-plus percent of your monthly base pay.  Typically, one who has completed one&#039;s statutory obligation is done.

As a matter of precedent, the military has the right to keep people in. But that precedent goes to an era when people were being drafted.  That time ended 33 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:  You're subject to recall because you're on the retired list receiving a retainer of 50-plus percent of your monthly base pay.  Typically, one who has completed one's statutory obligation is done.</p>
<p>As a matter of precedent, the military has the right to keep people in. But that precedent goes to an era when people were being drafted.  That time ended 33 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What didn&#039;t the young Captain understand? I retired 17 years ago after 20+ years in the Navy. I&#039;m subject to recall, and I knew that then,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What didn't the young Captain understand? I retired 17 years ago after 20+ years in the Navy. I'm subject to recall, and I knew that then,</p>
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		<title>By: Tempus Fugit Blog [ Tempus Fugit &#124; TxFx.net ]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempus Fugit Blog [ Tempus Fugit &#124; TxFx.net ]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; Diggers Realm» Mexicans in Space Say Anything» McCain Out? Dean&#039;s World» warmongers arrested in Houston Outside the Beltway»Captain Brad Schwan Fighting Stop Loss INDC Journal» &quot;We can&#039;t stand alone yet. We need more time.&quot; BuzzMachine» Two steps backward QandO» Project Hero: SGT James Witkowski, Silver Star ScrappleFace» Limbaugh Not Guilty, Pelosi Calls for Rove Firing&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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