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	<title>Comments on: DailyKos Violating Campaign Finance Law?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam B.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139802</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes all the difference in the world -- the conduit rules only apply to contributions over which some middleman has control.  The law distinguishes &quot;I&#039;m collecting $200 checks for Candidate X&quot; from &quot;Give me $200, and I&#039;ll figure out what candidate it should go to.&quot;

The internet isn&#039;t television, and, well, there are 10 other ways that&#039;s a misunderstanding of the &quot;electioneering communications&quot; rules, but I&#039;ll stick with the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes all the difference in the world -- the conduit rules only apply to contributions over which some middleman has control.  The law distinguishes "I'm collecting $200 checks for Candidate X" from "Give me $200, and I'll figure out what candidate it should go to."</p>
<p>The internet isn't television, and, well, there are 10 other ways that's a misunderstanding of the "electioneering communications" rules, but I'll stick with the first.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139799</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BlogCritics contributor John Bambenek claims to have filed an FEC complaint against DailyKos on the grounds that it is an organization committed to electing Democrats to office and provides contributions far exceeding those allowed by campaign finance laws.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This may explain the newfound piety exhibited by Kos the last few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BlogCritics contributor John Bambenek claims to have filed an FEC complaint against DailyKos on the grounds that it is an organization committed to electing Democrats to office and provides contributions far exceeding those allowed by campaign finance laws.</p></blockquote>
<p>This may explain the newfound piety exhibited by Kos the last few days.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139798</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;James, but there&#039;s a difference between &quot;raising money for yourself to later give to candidates&quot; versus &quot;encouraging people to contribute directly to candidates.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a pretty small difference, really.  And I&#039;d contend that sites leg RedState and Kos do more than that: They&#039;re actively part of the campaign process, doing electioneering, opposition research, and so forth.  It would be illegal under McCain-Feingold  to do those things via television within 90 days (?) of a campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>James, but there's a difference between "raising money for yourself to later give to candidates" versus "encouraging people to contribute directly to candidates."</p></blockquote>
<p>It's a pretty small difference, really.  And I'd contend that sites leg RedState and Kos do more than that: They're actively part of the campaign process, doing electioneering, opposition research, and so forth.  It would be illegal under McCain-Feingold  to do those things via television within 90 days (?) of a campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam B.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139787</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, but there&#039;s a difference between &quot;raising money for yourself to later give to candidates&quot; versus &quot;encouraging people to contribute directly to candidates.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, but there's a difference between "raising money for yourself to later give to candidates" versus "encouraging people to contribute directly to candidates."</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I think I&#039;m missing something.  Can&#039;t the NRA, AARP and NAACP already meet, raise money for their organizations, and spend money on their organizations without being subject to campaign finance laws?  Can&#039;t they also sell advertising space on their fliers, posters in meeting rooms, etc, to finance their organizations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I think I'm missing something.  Can't the NRA, AARP and NAACP already meet, raise money for their organizations, and spend money on their organizations without being subject to campaign finance laws?  Can't they also sell advertising space on their fliers, posters in meeting rooms, etc, to finance their organizations?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139783</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Isn&#039;t donating and spending money on the internet also subject to campaign finance laws?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It depends.  Presumably, DailyKos and RedState spend and raise quite a bit of money for the purposes of activist political speech, including candidate endorsements and the like.  That would be prohibited activity for the NRA, AARP, NAACP, and so forth if they wanted to take out advertising.

Apparently, though, those groups could organize as &quot;blogs&quot; and do much the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Isn't donating and spending money on the internet also subject to campaign finance laws?</p></blockquote>
<p>It depends.  Presumably, DailyKos and RedState spend and raise quite a bit of money for the purposes of activist political speech, including candidate endorsements and the like.  That would be prohibited activity for the NRA, AARP, NAACP, and so forth if they wanted to take out advertising.</p>
<p>Apparently, though, those groups could organize as "blogs" and do much the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They have filing requirements and are limited in how much they can donate and when they can spend it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Whoa, lets back up a minute, you never said anything about donating and spending in the original complaint, just interested people meeting.  Isn&#039;t donating and spending money on the internet also subject to campaign finance laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They have filing requirements and are limited in how much they can donate and when they can spend it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa, lets back up a minute, you never said anything about donating and spending in the original complaint, just interested people meeting.  Isn't donating and spending money on the internet also subject to campaign finance laws?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139779</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I missed something, but activists gathering in a meeting room somewhere are not subject to campaign finance laws, right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They have filing requirements and are limited in how much they can donate and when they can spend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe I missed something, but activists gathering in a meeting room somewhere are not subject to campaign finance laws, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>They have filing requirements and are limited in how much they can donate and when they can spend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dailykos_violating_campaign_finance_law/comment-page-1/#comment-139774</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still, it’s unclear to me why activists banding together on an Internet Web site should have any more free speech rights than those who do so in a meeting room somewhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Maybe I missed something, but activists gathering in a meeting room somewhere are not subject to campaign finance laws, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still, it&rsquo;s unclear to me why activists banding together on an Internet Web site should have any more free speech rights than those who do so in a meeting room somewhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe I missed something, but activists gathering in a meeting room somewhere are not subject to campaign finance laws, right?</p>
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