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	<title>Comments on: Dana Priest&#8217;s Cheap Shot (Video)</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Revile</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dana_priests_cheap_shot_video/comment-page-1/#comment-88903</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Revile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 10:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Skeptic&#039;s juvenile and disingenuous argument; here is the actual text of the federal definition of the crime of treason.

Title 18, Section 2381. Treason 

      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

The legal question of guilt in this case would indeed hinge on proof of intent. Did Ms. Priest &quot;adhere&quot; to the enemies of the US by deliberate provision of aid to them? Or rather, was her deliberate provision of aid motivated by some other purpose? 

&quot;Skeptic&quot; didn&#039;t cite the entirety of the statute, but chose to cite only up to the &quot;adhering to the enemy&quot; portion. Why? Because this phrase is confusing legal jargon. Gee whiz, Ms. Priest didn&#039;t even shake hands with any terrorists, let alone &quot;adhere to them&quot;! 

But she sure as Hades gave the enemy aid and comfort.

The only reason she isn&#039;t under indictment right now is that there are enough addlepated judges on the bench to whom &quot;bringing possible doubt or disrepute upon the conduct of the executive branch by dissemination of classified information obtained from a source in breach of his sworn duties&quot; would constitute a motive distinct from &quot;giving aid to the enemy&quot;.

&quot;You see, Ms. Priest&#039;s actual purpose was to give aid to the Democrats. The fact that she may have incidentally aided the terrorists is immaterial as matter of law.&quot;

This is the point I was making in my original post; the NYT and Ms. Priest won&#039;t be indicted or convicted before the bar. But I sincerely hope that the body politic damns them for the villainous turncoats they most certainly are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Skeptic's juvenile and disingenuous argument; here is the actual text of the federal definition of the crime of treason.</p>
<p>Title 18, Section 2381. Treason </p>
<p>      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.</p>
<p>The legal question of guilt in this case would indeed hinge on proof of intent. Did Ms. Priest "adhere" to the enemies of the US by deliberate provision of aid to them? Or rather, was her deliberate provision of aid motivated by some other purpose? </p>
<p>"Skeptic" didn't cite the entirety of the statute, but chose to cite only up to the "adhering to the enemy" portion. Why? Because this phrase is confusing legal jargon. Gee whiz, Ms. Priest didn't even shake hands with any terrorists, let alone "adhere to them"! </p>
<p>But she sure as Hades gave the enemy aid and comfort.</p>
<p>The only reason she isn't under indictment right now is that there are enough addlepated judges on the bench to whom "bringing possible doubt or disrepute upon the conduct of the executive branch by dissemination of classified information obtained from a source in breach of his sworn duties" would constitute a motive distinct from "giving aid to the enemy".</p>
<p>"You see, Ms. Priest's actual purpose was to give aid to the Democrats. The fact that she may have incidentally aided the terrorists is immaterial as matter of law."</p>
<p>This is the point I was making in my original post; the NYT and Ms. Priest won't be indicted or convicted before the bar. But I sincerely hope that the body politic damns them for the villainous turncoats they most certainly are.</p>
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		<title>By: reliapundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>reliapundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 23:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFK (via POWERLINE who has excerpts of the audio):

    Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: &quot;Is it news?&quot; All I suggest is that you add the question: &quot;Is it in the interest of the national security?&quot;

JFK continued:

I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity.

This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.

...

In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort, based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of &quot;clear and present danger,&quot; the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public&#039;s need for national security.

...For the facts of the matter are that this nation&#039;s foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation&#039;s covert preparations to counter the enemy&#039;s covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

...


newspapers have constantly said-that these are times that appeal to every citizen&#039;s sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.&quot;

JFk would be on Bennett&#039;s and GWB&#039;s side and opposed to the leakers and their enablers - folks like the hyper-partisan Dana Priest, Bill Keller.

There&#039;s a war on and these pieces of cr*p act like the ONLY important thing is bringing down the president.

To most of us morons out here it smells like treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFK (via POWERLINE who has excerpts of the audio):</p>
<p>    Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?"</p>
<p>JFK continued:</p>
<p>I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity.</p>
<p>This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.</p>
<p>...</p>
<p>In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort, based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.</p>
<p>...For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.</p>
<p>...</p>
<p>newspapers have constantly said-that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal."</p>
<p>JFk would be on Bennett's and GWB's side and opposed to the leakers and their enablers - folks like the hyper-partisan Dana Priest, Bill Keller.</p>
<p>There's a war on and these pieces of cr*p act like the ONLY important thing is bringing down the president.</p>
<p>To most of us morons out here it smells like treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to comment on Ms Priest&#039;s smack-down of Mr Bennett. (So much for &#039;civil discourse&#039; one way or the other.) But I do think her larger argument -- the role of the Free Press -- is worth listening to and discussing. 

I would point folks to Glenn Greenwald&#039;s recent notes on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not going to comment on Ms Priest's smack-down of Mr Bennett. (So much for 'civil discourse' one way or the other.) But I do think her larger argument -- the role of the Free Press -- is worth listening to and discussing. </p>
<p>I would point folks to Glenn Greenwald's recent notes on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hendry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Hendry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italo writes: &quot;As we prepare to celebrate Independence Day, I canâ��t help but think about what our founders would say if they were told that freedom of the press had been twisted to mean the right to publish classified secrets in the middle of a war.&quot;

What would the founders think if they knew the Republicans wanted to throw out principles held sacred since the Magna Carta, and if they knew that the administration engages in torture?

They&#039;d think &quot;Why did we bother with a revolution just to end up with an unjust tyrant named George?&quot;

Freedom and liberty are meaningless to the likes of you, cheap trinkets you willingly throw away in the name of political advantage and a false sense of security in your race towards an authoritarian dictatorship.

The Republicans are a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italo writes: "As we prepare to celebrate Independence Day, I canâ��t help but think about what our founders would say if they were told that freedom of the press had been twisted to mean the right to publish classified secrets in the middle of a war."</p>
<p>What would the founders think if they knew the Republicans wanted to throw out principles held sacred since the Magna Carta, and if they knew that the administration engages in torture?</p>
<p>They'd think "Why did we bother with a revolution just to end up with an unjust tyrant named George?"</p>
<p>Freedom and liberty are meaningless to the likes of you, cheap trinkets you willingly throw away in the name of political advantage and a false sense of security in your race towards an authoritarian dictatorship.</p>
<p>The Republicans are a disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>redwretch,
Read Greenwald&#039;s book, no thanks, I will leave that to you. I prefer the Constitution.
The Constitution ensures &quot;freedom of the press,&quot; not  giving to the press the right to act as a constitutional &quot;check and balance&quot; to our government as Bill Keller stated on Sunday.
Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc, are not absolute rights that gives any organization or individual the right to break the law, based on personal and political viewpoints, because we think the government has exceeded its bounds.
There are legal avenues to take if you think the President or Government has overstepped its authority. Those are laid out in the Constitution, not the NYT employee handbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redwretch,<br />
Read Greenwald's book, no thanks, I will leave that to you. I prefer the Constitution.<br />
The Constitution ensures "freedom of the press," not  giving to the press the right to act as a constitutional "check and balance" to our government as Bill Keller stated on Sunday.<br />
Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc, are not absolute rights that gives any organization or individual the right to break the law, based on personal and political viewpoints, because we think the government has exceeded its bounds.<br />
There are legal avenues to take if you think the President or Government has overstepped its authority. Those are laid out in the Constitution, not the NYT employee handbook.</p>
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		<title>By: redwretch</title>
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		<dc:creator>redwretch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of the press isn&#039;t dead just because you wish it were so.  Dana Priest is right - publishing classified information that shows government overeach or wrongdoing isn&#039;t treason, but quite the opposite.

She&#039;s staring down the ruling party of the Superpower because SECRET PRISONS ARE WRONG, and should be discussed by the people before the government chooses such an extreme, totalitarian path.

The overwhelming number of commentators should read &#039;How Would A Patriot Act&#039; by Greenwald, which explains easily how the US works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of the press isn't dead just because you wish it were so.  Dana Priest is right - publishing classified information that shows government overeach or wrongdoing isn't treason, but quite the opposite.</p>
<p>She's staring down the ruling party of the Superpower because SECRET PRISONS ARE WRONG, and should be discussed by the people before the government chooses such an extreme, totalitarian path.</p>
<p>The overwhelming number of commentators should read 'How Would A Patriot Act' by Greenwald, which explains easily how the US works.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Revile and all others throwing around charges of treason.

Treason requires intent.  Someone must act with the purpose to levy war or adhere to the enemy.  No reasonable person believes that the NYT, or the reporters, wrote the article with the intent of levying war or adhereing to the enemy.  Simply publishing &quot;classified&quot; information by itself will not support a charge of treason.  The WSJ published a very similar article.  Did its editors and reporters commit treason?

Was the information truly classified when it was published?  The Treasury Department provided the same information to the WSJ. Didn&#039;t this effectively &quot;declassify&quot; the information?  Either its in the public domain or its not.  Anyone here read both stories and find information in the NYT article that was not in the WSJ article that would endanger national security?

On the July 4th weekend, maybe we shoud be celebrating the the nation, the Constitution, and what our country stands for, instead of bashing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Revile and all others throwing around charges of treason.</p>
<p>Treason requires intent.  Someone must act with the purpose to levy war or adhere to the enemy.  No reasonable person believes that the NYT, or the reporters, wrote the article with the intent of levying war or adhereing to the enemy.  Simply publishing "classified" information by itself will not support a charge of treason.  The WSJ published a very similar article.  Did its editors and reporters commit treason?</p>
<p>Was the information truly classified when it was published?  The Treasury Department provided the same information to the WSJ. Didn't this effectively "declassify" the information?  Either its in the public domain or its not.  Anyone here read both stories and find information in the NYT article that was not in the WSJ article that would endanger national security?</p>
<p>On the July 4th weekend, maybe we shoud be celebrating the the nation, the Constitution, and what our country stands for, instead of bashing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sitting next to someone who has a good chance of being served a subpoena concerning the subject they were discussing, I thought Bennett did damn well. I would have been laughing my ass off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sitting next to someone who has a good chance of being served a subpoena concerning the subject they were discussing, I thought Bennett did damn well. I would have been laughing my ass off.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord, you people are nuts.

For sitting next to somebody who&#039;d called for her to be put in jail, I thought Priest did pretty damn well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord, you people are nuts.</p>
<p>For sitting next to somebody who'd called for her to be put in jail, I thought Priest did pretty damn well.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you who subscribe to the notion that no one will be killed because this only about financing are living in the twilight zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who subscribe to the notion that no one will be killed because this only about financing are living in the twilight zone.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 04:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sirs,

I can&#039;t wait to get to Vegas as I know how to &quot;speak truth to power&quot;.  Is this broad(priest) a big dope or what?  We are at WAR! What is it that you don&#039;t get!  Is it a hatred to the American way of life that pissed of you ying-yangs? You MSM/lib&#039;s are lucky to live in this country.    I saw the NY Times Reporter about the SWIFT @ CNN W/ Howard kurtz. That poor boy looked like a deer facing the headlights...He looked like he should be in the touch with his lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sirs,</p>
<p>I can't wait to get to Vegas as I know how to "speak truth to power".  Is this broad(priest) a big dope or what?  We are at WAR! What is it that you don't get!  Is it a hatred to the American way of life that pissed of you ying-yangs? You MSM/lib's are lucky to live in this country.    I saw the NY Times Reporter about the SWIFT @ CNN W/ Howard kurtz. That poor boy looked like a deer facing the headlights...He looked like he should be in the touch with his lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Revile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Revile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Priest is incorrect. Treason is illegal even when committed by newspaper reporters. It is, however, a difficult charge to prove in the criminal law sense of &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt&quot; before a jury. Reasonable people won&#039;t adhere to that standard in passing judgement as to her culpability though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Priest is incorrect. Treason is illegal even when committed by newspaper reporters. It is, however, a difficult charge to prove in the criminal law sense of "beyond a reasonable doubt" before a jury. Reasonable people won't adhere to that standard in passing judgement as to her culpability though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course she&#039;s correct, Mark.  Bennett did not challenge her.

I miss the USSR.  It was less disturbing to read about the jailing of reporters, censorship, unitary executives (read: dictator), domestic spying, rampant corruption and staggering govt. incompetence when you were reading about some other country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course she's correct, Mark.  Bennett did not challenge her.</p>
<p>I miss the USSR.  It was less disturbing to read about the jailing of reporters, censorship, unitary executives (read: dictator), domestic spying, rampant corruption and staggering govt. incompetence when you were reading about some other country</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bennett is a gambling addict?  Here I thought he was a drug addict like Rush.  Silly me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bennett is a gambling addict?  Here I thought he was a drug addict like Rush.  Silly me.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! the trolls have come up from the depths and are here to defend head troll Dana, grand mistress of the Godless religion of Liberalism.  Bill Bennett has nothing to fear from this group his God is light and theirs is dark he will be fine.  2006 elections will come and Republicans will win and the trolls will be banished back to their dark hole. Amen!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! the trolls have come up from the depths and are here to defend head troll Dana, grand mistress of the Godless religion of Liberalism.  Bill Bennett has nothing to fear from this group his God is light and theirs is dark he will be fine.  2006 elections will come and Republicans will win and the trolls will be banished back to their dark hole. Amen!!!!</p>
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