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	<title>Comments on: David Hicks Pleads Guilty to Supporting a Terrorist Organization</title>
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		<title>By: Top 10 things David Hicks has plead guilty to recently &#124; Tuna Crust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 10 things David Hicks has plead guilty to recently &#124; Tuna Crust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By admin &#124; March 30, 2007    //10. Providing material support for terrorism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By admin | March 30, 2007    //10. Providing material support for terrorism. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Stitch in Haste</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Stitch in Haste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Get Out of Gitmo Not Quite Free&quot; Card?...&lt;/strong&gt;

My vision of Hell is being falsely accused of a serious crime and being offered a plea bargain to a lesser offense.

It&#039;s easy to insist, in armchair-quarterback fashion, that you would never, ever, accept a plea for a crime you didn&#039;t comm......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>"Get Out of Gitmo Not Quite Free" Card?...</strong></p>
<p>My vision of Hell is being falsely accused of a serious crime and being offered a plea bargain to a lesser offense.</p>
<p>It's easy to insist, in armchair-quarterback fashion, that you would never, ever, accept a plea for a crime you didn't comm......</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I continue to be a lonely voice against giving KSM and co. the dignity of being “prisoners of war,” let alone the illegal contrivance of “enemy combatants.”&lt;/i&gt;

Anderson, it definitely depends on context.  KSM is arguably simply a criminal, by any standard.  However, those members of al-Qaeda and the Taliban who were captured on the battlefield are arguably POWs.

Those poor souls who were rounded up by the Northern Alliance to settle tribal grudges or obtain bounties are, of course, largely innocent and should have been released years ago.

&lt;i&gt;Mr. Knapp is of course right&lt;/i&gt;

Can&#039;t argue with that.  But you can call me Alex.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I continue to be a lonely voice against giving KSM and co. the dignity of being “prisoners of war,” let alone the illegal contrivance of “enemy combatants.”</i></p>
<p>Anderson, it definitely depends on context.  KSM is arguably simply a criminal, by any standard.  However, those members of al-Qaeda and the Taliban who were captured on the battlefield are arguably POWs.</p>
<p>Those poor souls who were rounded up by the Northern Alliance to settle tribal grudges or obtain bounties are, of course, largely innocent and should have been released years ago.</p>
<p><i>Mr. Knapp is of course right</i></p>
<p>Can't argue with that.  But you can call me Alex.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; What Does the Hicks Plea Tell Us?</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; What Does the Hicks Plea Tell Us?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As such, I share Alex Knapp&#8217;s basic reaction to the Hicks&#8217; plea: One of the things that is truly awful about the way the Bush Administration has handled counter-terrorism efforts is that its efforts to “act tough” and disregard centuries of American tradition regarding the treatment of prisoners is now actively undermining national security. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s “confessions” have been widely disregarded worldwide, since everyone is pretty sure that he was tortured. Hicks’ confession will likely be treated with the same level of skepticism. If their confessions are true, then worldwide skepticism of those confessions is only going to hamper counterterrorist measures and bolster the strength of our enemies. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As such, I share Alex Knapp&#8217;s basic reaction to the Hicks&#8217; plea: One of the things that is truly awful about the way the Bush Administration has handled counter-terrorism efforts is that its efforts to “act tough” and disregard centuries of American tradition regarding the treatment of prisoners is now actively undermining national security. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed&rsquo;s “confessions” have been widely disregarded worldwide, since everyone is pretty sure that he was tortured. Hicks&rsquo; confession will likely be treated with the same level of skepticism. If their confessions are true, then worldwide skepticism of those confessions is only going to hamper counterterrorist measures and bolster the strength of our enemies. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continue to be a lonely voice against giving KSM and co. the dignity of being &quot;prisoners of war,&quot; let alone the illegal contrivance of &quot;enemy combatants.&quot;

They&#039;re freakin&#039; criminals, people.  Like Timothy McVeigh.  They should be tried, and if found guilty, they should be punished.

Glorifying KSM as an &quot;enemy of the U.S.&quot; gives him entirely too much credit.

Mr. Knapp is of course right -- we should have interrogated these people properly, given them trials, and put our system in the spotlight as a showcase for the world.  

You know, as if we were actually proud of our country and our system.  Which, evidently, our White House is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be a lonely voice against giving KSM and co. the dignity of being "prisoners of war," let alone the illegal contrivance of "enemy combatants."</p>
<p>They're freakin' criminals, people.  Like Timothy McVeigh.  They should be tried, and if found guilty, they should be punished.</p>
<p>Glorifying KSM as an "enemy of the U.S." gives him entirely too much credit.</p>
<p>Mr. Knapp is of course right -- we should have interrogated these people properly, given them trials, and put our system in the spotlight as a showcase for the world.  </p>
<p>You know, as if we were actually proud of our country and our system.  Which, evidently, our White House is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Humane treatment of prisoners of war has been part of the American tradition since the Revolutionary War.&lt;/em&gt;

Indeed, and it is partly, though only partly, what made us the good guys.  Americans should quit watching so much &quot;24&quot; and recognize that not torturing prisoners is one of America&#039;s great traditions.  When it comes to George W&#039;s, I&#039;ll take Washington anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Humane treatment of prisoners of war has been part of the American tradition since the Revolutionary War.</em></p>
<p>Indeed, and it is partly, though only partly, what made us the good guys.  Americans should quit watching so much "24" and recognize that not torturing prisoners is one of America's great traditions.  When it comes to George W's, I'll take Washington anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>djneylon,

I agree with you that a &quot;standard criminal trial&quot; isn&#039;t necessarily required under the Geneva Conventions.  However, the use of hearsay in these hearings, denial of counsel, and coercive interrogations are all problematic, especially in a &quot;war&quot; with an ill-defined enemy and out-of-uniform combatants.  Humane treatment and speedy determinations of status are essential in these cases, and most of the prisoners at Gitmo were denied both.

M. Murcek,

&lt;i&gt;No doubt, lollipops all around would have made it all OK…&lt;/i&gt;

Humane treatment of prisoners of war has been part of the American tradition since the Revolutionary War.  George Washington himself thought it essential to victory in the Revolution, since stories of humane treatment would make it more likely for enemy soldiers to surrender (especially the Hessian mercenaries) and less likely that Royalist-leaning colonists would be inclined to take up arms against the revolutionaries in the first place.  In the present conflicts against Islamic extremism, the same principles would not only provide us with the moral high ground, but would serve the same tactical purpose of making surrender more likely and new terrorists taking up arms less likely.

Alas, George Bush thinks that he&#039;s smarter than George Washington.  I doubt that history will agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djneylon,</p>
<p>I agree with you that a "standard criminal trial" isn't necessarily required under the Geneva Conventions.  However, the use of hearsay in these hearings, denial of counsel, and coercive interrogations are all problematic, especially in a "war" with an ill-defined enemy and out-of-uniform combatants.  Humane treatment and speedy determinations of status are essential in these cases, and most of the prisoners at Gitmo were denied both.</p>
<p>M. Murcek,</p>
<p><i>No doubt, lollipops all around would have made it all OK…</i></p>
<p>Humane treatment of prisoners of war has been part of the American tradition since the Revolutionary War.  George Washington himself thought it essential to victory in the Revolution, since stories of humane treatment would make it more likely for enemy soldiers to surrender (especially the Hessian mercenaries) and less likely that Royalist-leaning colonists would be inclined to take up arms against the revolutionaries in the first place.  In the present conflicts against Islamic extremism, the same principles would not only provide us with the moral high ground, but would serve the same tactical purpose of making surrender more likely and new terrorists taking up arms less likely.</p>
<p>Alas, George Bush thinks that he's smarter than George Washington.  I doubt that history will agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Australian Gitmo Prisoner Pleads Guilty:...&lt;/strong&gt;

David Hicks, the Australian citizen being held as an unlawful combatant in Guantanamo Bay, confessed and guilty to the charge of supporting a terrorist organization. Alex Knapp wonders if anyone will believe him. (Outside the Beltway)......</description>
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		<title>By: M. Murcek</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Murcek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt, lollipops all around would have made it all OK...</description>
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		<title>By: djneylon</title>
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		<dc:creator>djneylon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The important thing to remember is that these are NOT standard criminal trials.  The individuals at Gitmo are prisoners of war.  They are being adjudicated as to whether or not we need to continue holding them, based on the threat they represent. POWs do not have the the same rights as US citizens because they are NOT US CITIZENS -- THEY ARE POWs, WHO ARE FORIEGNERS -- THEREFORE, NOT CITIZENS.  The Geneva Conventions apply, not the US Constitution.
We got into this mess with terrorism because we treated it as law enforcement, not a war against us.  We paid the price on 9-11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The important thing to remember is that these are NOT standard criminal trials.  The individuals at Gitmo are prisoners of war.  They are being adjudicated as to whether or not we need to continue holding them, based on the threat they represent. POWs do not have the the same rights as US citizens because they are NOT US CITIZENS -- THEY ARE POWs, WHO ARE FORIEGNERS -- THEREFORE, NOT CITIZENS.  The Geneva Conventions apply, not the US Constitution.<br />
We got into this mess with terrorism because we treated it as law enforcement, not a war against us.  We paid the price on 9-11.</p>
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		<title>By: political forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>political forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article. Freaking Australians...</description>
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		<title>By: Hicks Pleads Guilty &#171; Michael P.F. van der Galiën</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hicks Pleads Guilty &#171; Michael P.F. van der Galiën</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Australian terror suspect David Hicks pleaded guilty to a war-crime charge of providing material sup...</description>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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