I don't think this ever really existed.

Several DC area libertarians decided to celebrate Thomas Jefferson’s b.d. by congregating at his memorial at midnight and dancing to the sounds of their iPods for 10minutes.The constabulary showed up,ordered everyone to move along, and arrested a you...

I do object to some police trying to draw a line between them and us

Remember that citizens of this country, particularly, have always had the same mentality. How many times in the normal course of a day do you hear someone say, "uh oh, cops" or "cop" with disdain or distrust (even though they are not at all affiliated with the criminal element)? I hear it all the time. Hell, I say it all the time. And I am a cop!

I think that the US's unique history lends itself to government mistrust and cops are just the most recognizable symbol of the government(next to members of congress maybe), as well as the most available.

As for the politeness issue, the nature of police work is highly negative and physically, emotionally, and spiritually draining. Even more-so than military work. Because it never ends and an enemy one day, is a friend the next. Or mostly, not an enemy at all. But it's difficult to look at someone with suspicion, suspect they have intent to harm you, because they curse at you, sneer at you, always outnumber you, yet smile and make them feel warm and fuzzy. I try hard to do it, don't condone disrespect towards citizens, treat my job as customer service, but understand completely when others say the wrong thing.

I do agree however, that there has been a significant shift in the attitude of the police in recent decades. Most of that has to do with the implementation of the drug war and the training required to fight it. De-criminalize most drugs, and you solve lots of problems. The SWAT programs/mentality across the country are borne of the drug war. Rarely used otherwise. But it's not the police's fault. They don't write the laws, they just enforce. Much as we shouldn't blame defense attorneys for getting guilty clients off. It's good that the system works per design. But if there's a design flaw, our legislators should go to work to fix it.

Instead, most have adopted a bullying attitude and demand to be treated with unearned deference. We’ve gone from Joe Friday and Andy Taylor to “Cops” and “The Wire.”

Cops have always, always had a bullying attitude. As a whole. Perhaps, James, your personal childhood experiences seemed different than your adult ones (how do cops treat children differently than adults?), but think about. Officer's were corrupt as hell and always expected deference. Now, we won't accept free cups of coffee that were once "expected" of shopkeepers.(A good thing.) Andy Taylor may have once let Otis sleep off his drunkeness in the cell without charging him, but do that now and the police pay dearly for kidnapping or unlawfully suspending a writ of habeous corpus, if he's there over the weekend. Or sued because Otis didn't get his 100 proof butt quite sober enough to drive and killed Floyd on his way home! I don't mean to be a jerk, but things always seem better "back then," but its just not the case. The Wire no more reflects the reality of policework then Andy Taylor reflect life in the past. The only difference is the the television market, the FCC, and the change of societal norms. If Andy Taylor would have been able to show his naked butt while muttering "shit" he would have.

In my experience, there are a lot of Joe Fridays out there who mostly go unnoticed. Unfortunately, there is a big percentage, not a majority, but a good slice of buttheads too. But, remember that law enforcement will always attract type 'A' personalities. Those who aren't get weeded out really quickly because they simply cannot do the job. It is not for weak of heart. So keep that in mind.

I don't know all of the rules at the Mall but it didn't sound like any of these folks were brutalized. Just got their feelings hurt. If they didn't break any of the rules, they should have been allowed to stay. But, as a citizen, that sort of very unusual behavior SHOULD be checked into. If that sort of thing happened even monthly, it probably would never had been an issue. And I'm sure Ms. Disorderly didn't get charged for just asking "why." Disorderly in almost every jurisdiction I'm aware of is not arrested on lightly precisely because it has been abused as a "catch all." In most cases, it requires, per policy, a third-party complainant. But what do I know? I could be wrong. I don't know all of the facts of the case.

For the record, I am a registered Libertarian.

If the police oppress someone's rights in a situation, and your only answer is "don't do that", then you belong in China, not America. Please turn in your passport and denounce your citizenchip if you are not willing to stand up for the rights that your forefathers died for.

They may need to be reminded of that by a mayor, a policeman, or another tax paying civilian.

Brooke is a citizen and a taxpayer, not a criminal. Having fun is not a crime....

The days when the police spoke to the general public — whom they are paid to serve — with polite deference are long gone.

That's not necessarily true of all police. In areas where there is a high rate of licensed concealed carry permits, they still tend to be very polite. I know from personal experience.

Hmmmm... I wonder if there is some kind of conclusion to be drawn from this?

I also don't think the quasi-military thing implicit in contrasting the public as "civilians" is either coincidental or a good thing.

American police have had a quasi-military character for decades. They've adopted military-style uniforms, military rank insignia, military protocol, military customs and courtesies, and the like. Historically, although perhaps not so much nowadays, cops tended to have prior military experience.