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	<title>Comments on: Declaration of Independence:  A Fisking</title>
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		<title>By: Capitol Annex &#187; Nominated For Recognition By The &#8216;Watcher&#8217;s Council&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-90184</link>
		<dc:creator>Capitol Annex &#187; Nominated For Recognition By The &#8216;Watcher&#8217;s Council&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In order to nominate yourself, you have to include the following verbage in a post announcing your self-nomination, so here goes: As you may or may not already be aware, members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council hold a vote every week on what they consider to be the most link-worthy pieces of writing around&#8230; per the Watcher&#8217;s instructions, I am submitting one of my own posts for consideration in the upcoming nominations process. Here is the most recent winning council post, here is the most recent winning non-council post, here is the list of results for the latest vote, and here is the initial posting of all the nominees that were voted on. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In order to nominate yourself, you have to include the following verbage in a post announcing your self-nomination, so here goes: As you may or may not already be aware, members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council hold a vote every week on what they consider to be the most link-worthy pieces of writing around&#8230; per the Watcher&#8217;s instructions, I am submitting one of my own posts for consideration in the upcoming nominations process. Here is the most recent winning council post, here is the most recent winning non-council post, here is the list of results for the latest vote, and here is the initial posting of all the nominees that were voted on. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Socratic Rhythm Method</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89967</link>
		<dc:creator>Socratic Rhythm Method</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council results, July 7/14...&lt;/strong&gt;

On July 14 (nominees, full results) Right Wing Nut House scored with Bleeding Iraq as best Council post. The massacre of Sunni Muslims over the weekend in a mixed Sunni-Shia neighborhood in the heart of Baghdad was unprecedented in its brutality and br...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Watcher's Council results, July 7/14...</strong></p>
<p>On July 14 (nominees, full results) Right Wing Nut House scored with Bleeding Iraq as best Council post. The massacre of Sunni Muslims over the weekend in a mixed Sunni-Shia neighborhood in the heart of Baghdad was unprecedented in its brutality and br...</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89806</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the non-council category the winner was Declaration of Independence: A Fisking by Outside the Beltway, and second place went to Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way by The Shape of Days. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the non-council category the winner was Declaration of Independence: A Fisking by Outside the Beltway, and second place went to Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way by The Shape of Days. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Sundries Shack</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89516</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sundries Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner&#8217;s look at what might have been had there been an internet in 1776, &#8220;The Declaration of Independence: A Fisking&#8221; won among the non-Council entries. He squeaked out Jeff Harrell&#8217;s lament on the political tone of the day, &#8220;Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way&#8221; on a tiebreaking vote by the Watcher himself. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Joyner&#8217;s look at what might have been had there been an internet in 1776, &#8220;The Declaration of Independence: A Fisking&#8221; won among the non-Council entries. He squeaked out Jeff Harrell&#8217;s lament on the political tone of the day, &#8220;Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way&#8221; on a tiebreaking vote by the Watcher himself. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89388</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council Results...&lt;/strong&gt;

Tthe winning entries in the Watcher&#039;s Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by Gates of Vienna, and Declaration of Independence: A Fisking by Outside the Beltway.&#160; You can find the full results of the vote......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Watcher's Council Results...</strong></p>
<p>Tthe winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by Gates of Vienna, and Declaration of Independence: A Fisking by Outside the Beltway.  You can find the full results of the vote......</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89312</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Coalition of the Willing...&lt;/strong&gt;

As you may or may not already be aware, members of the Watcher&#039;s Council hold a vote every week on what we consider to be the most link-worthy pieces of writing around...&#160; though I don&#039;t actually vote unless there happens......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Coalition of the Willing...</strong></p>
<p>As you may or may not already be aware, members of the Watcher's Council hold a vote every week on what we consider to be the most link-worthy pieces of writing around...  though I don't actually vote unless there happens......</p>
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		<title>By: ShrinkWrapped</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89257</link>
		<dc:creator>ShrinkWrapped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!...&lt;/strong&gt;

This week&#039;s winning Council post was The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) at Gates of Vienna. There was a 5-way tie for second place between ESCAPING THE LEGAL AND MORAL QUAGMIRE OF GUANTANAMO, Jew hater Bush?!??, Why haven’t we captured Osama...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!...</strong></p>
<p>This week's winning Council post was The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) at Gates of Vienna. There was a 5-way tie for second place between ESCAPING THE LEGAL AND MORAL QUAGMIRE OF GUANTANAMO, Jew hater Bush?!??, Why haven&rsquo;t we captured Osama...</p>
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		<title>By: The Queen of All Evil</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89205</link>
		<dc:creator>The Queen of All Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fisking The Declaration of Independence...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve been sick for over a week. I had a cold that morphed rather quickly into acute Ethmoid and Frontal Sinusitis. I&#039;ve got some good drugs now, so all will be well soon. (Unless the antibiotics turn my coochie into a leavening a......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fisking The Declaration of Independence...</strong></p>
<p>I've been sick for over a week. I had a cold that morphed rather quickly into acute Ethmoid and Frontal Sinusitis. I've got some good drugs now, so all will be well soon. (Unless the antibiotics turn my coochie into a leavening a......</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89028</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. The winning Council post was Gates of Vienna&#8217;s comparison of crime rate in the United States and Europe, &#8220;Wild, Wild West(ern Europe)&#8221;.  There was a remarkable 5-way tie for second place honors with posts by  Right Wing Nut House, Joshuapundit, New World Man, Done With Mirrors, and myself in a dead heat.  I think that points less to a division of opinion among Council members than the general excellence of the Council submissions this week. The winning non-Council post was Outside the Beltway&#8217;s amusing fisking of the Declaration of Independence. The second place non-Council post was Shape of Days&#8217;s post, “Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way”, a commentary on Congressman Jack Kingston. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. The winning Council post was Gates of Vienna&#8217;s comparison of crime rate in the United States and Europe, &#8220;Wild, Wild West(ern Europe)&#8221;.  There was a remarkable 5-way tie for second place honors with posts by  Right Wing Nut House, Joshuapundit, New World Man, Done With Mirrors, and myself in a dead heat.  I think that points less to a division of opinion among Council members than the general excellence of the Council submissions this week. The winning non-Council post was Outside the Beltway&#8217;s amusing fisking of the Declaration of Independence. The second place non-Council post was Shape of Days&#8217;s post, “Sometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Way”, a commentary on Congressman Jack Kingston. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-89012</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher&#039;s Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!...</strong></p>
<p>First off...  any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,  and here.  Die spambots, die!  And now...  the winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by...</p>
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		<title>By: kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I know it is hard for conservatives to come to grips with the obvious reality, that it was the conservatives of the time who were opposed to the Revolution, just as conservatives of all time, by definition, oppose every advance that society makes, until that advance has triumphed to such a degree that it becomes part of the endowment that conservatives are tasked to defend.&lt;/em&gt;

Check your history, Tano.  Edmund Burke, the father of modern conservatism, &lt;em&gt;opposed&lt;/em&gt; George III&#039;s policy in America, to a point just shy of sympathizing with the American revolutionaries.  Furthermore, the Constitution that emerged from the Revolution was deeply influenced by conservative thinking, incorporating as it did the best of the English common law and parliamentarianism and what lessons could be gleaned from the experiences of the Roman and Dutch republics.  Whether you want to believe it or not, the American Revolution was largely a &lt;em&gt;conservative&lt;/em&gt; revolution, to the extent such a thing is possible.

You want a liberal revolution?  That&#039;s what we saw in France, and it wasn&#039;t pretty.  it also bore precious little resemblance to the American Revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I know it is hard for conservatives to come to grips with the obvious reality, that it was the conservatives of the time who were opposed to the Revolution, just as conservatives of all time, by definition, oppose every advance that society makes, until that advance has triumphed to such a degree that it becomes part of the endowment that conservatives are tasked to defend.</em></p>
<p>Check your history, Tano.  Edmund Burke, the father of modern conservatism, <em>opposed</em> George III's policy in America, to a point just shy of sympathizing with the American revolutionaries.  Furthermore, the Constitution that emerged from the Revolution was deeply influenced by conservative thinking, incorporating as it did the best of the English common law and parliamentarianism and what lessons could be gleaned from the experiences of the Roman and Dutch republics.  Whether you want to believe it or not, the American Revolution was largely a <em>conservative</em> revolution, to the extent such a thing is possible.</p>
<p>You want a liberal revolution?  That's what we saw in France, and it wasn't pretty.  it also bore precious little resemblance to the American Revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-88786</link>
		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I&#039;ll be forwarding it around.

As to the comments: the comparisons of the concepts &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;conservative&quot; to other times is invalid.  It is primarily used in self-congratulation, to show &quot;See, ha ha. Those guys you like so much really belong to us.&quot;  You can&#039;t extend the terms 50 years, let alone 230.  In Hungary in 1986, a hard-core Marxist was called a conservative.  Now that same person, with identical beliefs, would be in a party of the left.  Liberal and Conservative do not mean quite the same thing in GB that they do in America or Australia.  The terms are general, and while they might have clear meanings at any particular time and place - and thus be useful - they are malleable enough that they lose utility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I'll be forwarding it around.</p>
<p>As to the comments: the comparisons of the concepts "liberal" and "conservative" to other times is invalid.  It is primarily used in self-congratulation, to show "See, ha ha. Those guys you like so much really belong to us."  You can't extend the terms 50 years, let alone 230.  In Hungary in 1986, a hard-core Marxist was called a conservative.  Now that same person, with identical beliefs, would be in a party of the left.  Liberal and Conservative do not mean quite the same thing in GB that they do in America or Australia.  The terms are general, and while they might have clear meanings at any particular time and place - and thus be useful - they are malleable enough that they lose utility.</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-88775</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted for Your Approval...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#039;s Council for this week&#039;s vote. Council li...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted for Your Approval...</strong></p>
<p>First off...  any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,  and here.  Die spambots, die!  And now...  here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher's Council for this week's vote. Council li...</p>
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		<title>By: Global Geopolitics News &#187; Philippines - A Part of China, but Apart From It Beijing Has Little Bearing on</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-88774</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Geopolitics News &#187; Philippines - A Part of China, but Apart From It Beijing Has Little Bearing on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Declaration of Independence: A Fisking Outside Beltway - For example, I d have a lot more difficulty impinging on people s inalienable it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new The King has just sent the best army in the history of the planet over to defend [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Declaration of Independence: A Fisking Outside Beltway - For example, I d have a lot more difficulty impinging on people s inalienable it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new The King has just sent the best army in the history of the planet over to defend [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blawg Review</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/declaration_of_independence_a_fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-88746</link>
		<dc:creator>Blawg Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jeffersonian Blawg Review...&lt;/strong&gt;

Dear Blawg readers &amp; patrons,

I have recently received the favors of the gentlemen of Blawg Review, requests fitting for my scholarship for my appraisal in the attention to legal matters discussed on this thing called the &quot;blogosphere&quot;, on this na...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jeffersonian Blawg Review...</strong></p>
<p>Dear Blawg readers &amp; patrons,</p>
<p>I have recently received the favors of the gentlemen of Blawg Review, requests fitting for my scholarship for my appraisal in the attention to legal matters discussed on this thing called the "blogosphere", on this na...</p>
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